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In reply to the discussion: For the "wait for evidence" crowd. [View all]cheyanne
(733 posts)47. There is a difference between "justified" and evidence in a court of law.
No evidence will make what Wilson did right, but it will make a difference in what the punishment is for what he did.
As we all know from past experiences (Trayvon), the law has very narrow definitions of murder, manslaughter, etc. that has to be met. And it's crushing when we expect the court to do something it can't: convict on what we believe as opposed to what is proven in court.
At The Volokh Conspiracy you can see a clear explanation of the differences between the charges and the evidence that will be debated in court.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/08/20/what-state-charges-could-be-filed-in-the-michael-brown-shooting/
Here's an example:
"The most serious homicide charge is first-degree murder. Under Missouri law [a] person commits the crime of murder in the first degree if he knowingly causes the death of another person after deliberation upon the matter. This charge seems quite improbable, even accepting the version of the facts most favorable to Browns supporters, because it would be difficult to show that the officer deliberated before killing Brown.
This leads, then, to second-degree murder which, as relevant here, applies where a person knowingly causes the death of another person . . . . To act knowingly means to act in a way that producing a result (here, death) is almost certain. So the officer seems to have knowingly shot and killed Brown. Would this automatically be second-degree murder?"
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For some pigs just being black is aggressive enough to shoot first especially if they are running...
L0oniX
Aug 2014
#75
that's the President of the United States who has to be careful of the way he talks about Racism
JI7
Aug 2014
#13
the President understands where this country is when it comes to Racism , just saying
JI7
Aug 2014
#28
Apparently if you're anonymous you have to say that Wilson was undoubtedly a murderous racist
Nye Bevan
Aug 2014
#38
If Brown attacked the officer, tried to grab his gun, hit him in the face and broke bones,
Vattel
Aug 2014
#10
So you're waiting for proof that 2 of the 6 holes were really in Browns head? Those ARE kill shots.
L0oniX
Aug 2014
#76
You know that if it were anyone else they would be spending at least 24 hours in jail.
L0oniX
Aug 2014
#94
As my own decision will have no affectations on the actual jury proceedings
LanternWaste
Aug 2014
#114
If this was a Black Officer gunning down a rich white kid in Beverly Hills, well
BaggersRDumb
Aug 2014
#29
There you go again with this bullshit. First of all, you are severely disrespecting everyone who h
Solomon
Aug 2014
#43
A dead teen taken down by 6 bullets with four eyewitnesses describing a miscarriage of justice
Ed Suspicious
Aug 2014
#103
Oh no you didnt! There is no way in hell you were a public defender and saying there is no probable
Solomon
Aug 2014
#111
Don't presume to tell me what I do and do not know, thank you very much.
ColesCountyDem
Aug 2014
#85
Link to those dozen witnesses please. I can't prove a negative, but you should be able to prove this
pnwmom
Aug 2014
#45
So he kept charging *after* being shot several times? Was he a Terminator?
nomorenomore08
Aug 2014
#56
Ah, using the "pull stuff out of your ass and then run away" gambit, are you? Always impressive.
Squinch
Aug 2014
#84
When was the last time you were told by a police officer to "get the fuck out of the road"
logosoco
Aug 2014
#54
What evidence would make you think that it wasn't the action of a trigger happy cop?
mythology
Aug 2014
#63
To "wait for the evidence" means you assume the police were justified in the killing.
Kablooie
Aug 2014
#77