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HooptieWagon

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53. Correct, but.....

Thu Aug 21, 2014, 10:19 AM

Aug 2014

A new chief would set new procedures and standards of behavior. Cops that don't follow it can be fired. So its a "shape up or ship out" method of reform.

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"The People of Ferguson Have the Power to Fire the Entire Police Force" [View all] sabrina 1 Aug 2014 OP

I had heard there are a lot of local political organizers on site every day, I am hopeful they bettyellen Aug 2014 #1

But if what I've read about Ferguson is true ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #2

24,000+ warrents a year brer cat Aug 2014 #4

Not just the police department ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #6

They were all in bed together for sure. brer cat Aug 2014 #10

Perhaps a Federal Investigation is needed. Maybe a petition, through Avaaz eg, to the DOJ sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #47

is that for fear of being caught at the polling place? unless there's a felony conviction they can bettyellen Aug 2014 #5

This ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #8

Okay, I was just thinking about the felony thing. Shit, we need a fund to pay the fines and bettyellen Aug 2014 #11

My Dad (R.I.P.) ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #14

He sounds a great deal like my brother. He had by far the longest stint in one of the most bettyellen Aug 2014 #16

If you'd like ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #20

Yes, I would LOVE to read more about him! Thank you. bettyellen Aug 2014 #21

I hope you do write a book! pleinair Aug 2014 #54

That's an excellent idea. Or get people like the National Lawyers League who did sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #17

I was trying to research who is on the ground with no luck. There's Beacon doing a fund for bettyellen Aug 2014 #19

Kickstarter definitely is a great way to get something like that started. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #24

I believe you're thinking of the National Lawyers Guild U4ikLefty Aug 2014 #44

Yes, that is who I was thinking of. Thank you. I had read about them during sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #45

thanks for the thread, bettyellen bigtree Aug 2014 #32

Pls do, sorry to PM you like that, but was hoping you would be interested... bettyellen Aug 2014 #33

here's some routes already in place for support bigtree Aug 2014 #57

Yes, I've read that. But this would be a reason to kick them all out, wouldn't it? sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #7

If someone is not registered, they can't vote ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #9

And in my own community, there is tons of evidence local officials get their hands on the voting bettyellen Aug 2014 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #18

Pls help me run with this by brainstorming for the right orgnizations! I will email a query ASAP to bettyellen Aug 2014 #22

Yes, I do think kickstarter is a good portal for a fundraiser. How to present it would be the sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #25

I guess to ask if they are or would consider direct action there to help citizens clear their bettyellen Aug 2014 #27

and maybe the NAACP's LDF or some of these organizations? bettyellen Aug 2014 #28

or http://www.sentencingproject.org/map/map.cfm bettyellen Aug 2014 #29

Thanks, I hadn't heard of them. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #43

I did a little research on how Kickstarter works. Apparently they are there to help artists sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #35

Thanks so much for this! I do think there's a non profit version of Kickstarter, and if so.... bettyellen Aug 2014 #36

I mentioned Color Of Change earlier. It was co-founded by Van Jones after hurricane Katrina sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #39

Yeah somehow I googled that simple name wrong- (very tired) promising stuff there, thanks! bettyellen Aug 2014 #41

I deleted my other post to you as it didn't address the question I wanted to ask. Is the fact sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #46

I agree that the poor are woofully under-represented in legal proceedings ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #48

Yes, it does seem like planned approach from what I have read over the past few days. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #59

I remember, not too long ago ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #61

I remember what happened in Az. I was there for a couple of years I believe in 2008-9 and was sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #62

from what i have heard questionseverything Aug 2014 #55

This is very interesting Gothmog Aug 2014 #3

I want to hold the FPD accountable and fire all 53 officers... Anansi1171 Aug 2014 #12

Try Color of Change, I have linked to it in other comments in this thread, but it does conduct sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #40

Great Rec! Thanks! -nt Anansi1171 Aug 2014 #42

Wow...thanks Sabrina 1....Take back our power of Representation... KoKo Aug 2014 #15

Yes, I know it would not happen quickly, it WOULD take time. Eg, people in this thread have pointed sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #26

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #23

K&R&bookmark JEB Aug 2014 #30

I think the police officer unions may have a problem with that, and for good reasons. kelly1mm Aug 2014 #31

That is true. However if you read the entire article, it appears the Police Chief is a political sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #37

The city of Jennings got around the Unions by dismantling JimDandy Aug 2014 #52

Yes, according to their charter it appears the City Council can fire 'officers' which I presume sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #64

I don't think the DOJ has the power to do that, JimDandy Aug 2014 #65

I am not sure but voting is not just a state or local right, it is a Civil Right guaranteed sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #67

I'm guessing, no they don't brooklynite Aug 2014 #34

Yes, everything you said, the Council, the Mayor, the DA, the Police Chief. That would be a start. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #38

Correct, but..... HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #53

True indeed, but that's not what the OP proposed... brooklynite Aug 2014 #60

K&R woo me with science Aug 2014 #49

Perhaps if it can be made to work here, it could serve as a model to other similar communities cascadiance Aug 2014 #50

why should anyone be fire due to actions of another person? treestar Aug 2014 #51

They shouldn't, they should be fired due to their own actions. If you read sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #56

I'm afraid Tribalceltic Aug 2014 #58

Fuck these pigs >:# ncjustice80 Aug 2014 #63

Out of a cannon, preferably LloydS of New London Aug 2014 #66

a little late to the post marym625 Aug 2014 #68