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In reply to the discussion: Stuff that never happened [View all]gratuitous
(82,849 posts)As it is, the President has done squat-ah about closing Guantanamo Bay. He hasn't made it a priority, and dozens of men continue to just rot in the sun, denied access to counsel, courts or even to be charged with anything. See, that's part of "stuff that never happened." The United States used to be against the sort of indefinite incarceration without charge we're practicing at Guantanamo. Signing one piece of paper with no follow up or negative follow up (see his March 2011 order) for nearly three years doesn't qualify as doing anything in my book.
"But gratuitous, you don't UNDERSTAND! If the President stood up for constitutional ideals, the Republicans would say mean things about him." Yeah, cry me a river. If the President of the United States can't rally the population to stand up for the right thing, then maybe we should just pack in this little experiment. Indefinite detention is illegal. Meanwhile, in Pakistan, we continue to murder dozens of people every month with drone attacks. And we support demented dictators like Nursultan Nazarbayev and Islam Karimov.
As I say, as long as we're making a list of stuff that never happened, let's be sure we get all the things on there that never happened. Guantanamo never closed. Torture continues. While some black sites have been closed (and from where I sit, it appears that happened because they were discovered), others remain open for their reprehensible business.