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alcibiades_mystery

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76. Yes, it's odd...it doesn't display a consciousness of guilt for the most part

Fri Aug 22, 2014, 10:27 AM

Aug 2014

They are not hiding. They are not avoiding the police. They walked up W. Florissant at a leisurely pace. They walked up the middle of the street up Canfield (or were crossing...I don't really know what they were doing in the street). A lone cruiser was coming at them (westbound), not from behind, so they must have seen it coming at a distance that would have allowed evasion. Yet they didn't duck, they didn't run, they didn't evade, nothing. If anything, they conversed with Wilson as if nothing was wrong.

What does this tell us?

They are absolutely brazen, OR, they didn't see the events at Ferguson Market & Liquor as a big deal OR they didn't see what happened at FM&L as even illegal OR they didn't believe what happened at FM&L had been or would be reported OR they were attempting to disguise their guilt by acting naturally OR...

Lots of possible explanations.

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Oops, full footage of store-cam shows that Michael Brown paid for the cigarettes... [View all] DetlefK Aug 2014 OP

I'm sure it will hit the major networks any moment now... Hooked_n_Looped Aug 2014 #1

Hey there Hooked_n_Looped ... In_The_Wind Aug 2014 #15

Does it matter? Is stealing cigarillos or whatever they were merrily Aug 2014 #2

Paid? Where does this video show him paying? LisaL Aug 2014 #6

Maybe ask the OP. I am the one who said it didn't matter if he paid or not. merrily Aug 2014 #8

Well, I did. LisaL Aug 2014 #16

How long ago did you ask the OP? merrily Aug 2014 #19

From the beginning it looked like he paid, returning what he hadn't paid for, as did his friend. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #89

No matter what, the police should not have released video. merrily Aug 2014 #91

Sabrina, could you -or anyone- who has good quality sound on their computer, please PotatoChip Aug 2014 #105

He is standing at the checkout counter - what is he doing there? You do not shoplift and then go jwirr Aug 2014 #78

Good point, but maybe have that convo with LisaL and hexola. merrily Aug 2014 #80

Oh I agree with you on that. He is dead - that fact cannot be changed. And it is also not relevant jwirr Aug 2014 #81

Yet, some people, even at DU, seem to want to press home that he did steal. merrily Aug 2014 #83

I think some are seeing it as some kind of justification for the shooting - they are wrong. jwirr Aug 2014 #85

Either seeing it that way or hoping they can make someone else see it that way. merrily Aug 2014 #87

It matters to the parents whose son is being demonized. jwirr Aug 2014 #77

Of course it does. That is why no one should have released the video in the first place. merrily Aug 2014 #97

It matters to his reputation demigoddess Aug 2014 #94

Of course. Please see my replies 91 and 97. merrily Aug 2014 #98

Nonsense using this video determine theft... hexola Aug 2014 #3

The store owner has claimed that he never reported a theft. merrily Aug 2014 #9

Because customer was the one who called 911. LisaL Aug 2014 #10

Again maybe you should address that to the poster who said we have to hear from the store owner, merrily Aug 2014 #22

which is a world of difference from "he didn't steal anything..." hexola Aug 2014 #11

It was reported. By a customer. LisaL Aug 2014 #12

According to police, it was called in at 11:51... BklnDem75 Aug 2014 #26

What did the customer call it? hexola Aug 2014 #28

Are you surprised customer isn't giving interviews? LisaL Aug 2014 #30

According to the police report... BklnDem75 Aug 2014 #38

Is it common practice in Police reports to refer to black males as "B/M"s? hexola Aug 2014 #41

Yes, it is. BM, WM, WF, BF, etc. Nay Aug 2014 #47

I wish they would do those redactions so you can keep the characters straight. hexola Aug 2014 #45

I assumed nothing. YOU are the one who said we had to hear from the store owner. merrily Aug 2014 #31

We should always assume "guilty" first. JoePhilly Aug 2014 #34

They claimed they never called 911 but cleduc Aug 2014 #40

Okay so why didn't the store owner call police to report a theft? Rex Aug 2014 #51

store may not call the police for every theft Travis_0004 Aug 2014 #72

Or there was no theft and that is why the store owner did not call. Rex Aug 2014 #74

Dorian Johnson admitted it was a theft. Travis_0004 Aug 2014 #90

That's nice, but Brown didn't get a chance to. Rex Aug 2014 #95

That's the biggest reach I've seen on this topic yet... Hooked_n_Looped Aug 2014 #99

Not at all, where is the crime report? Rex Aug 2014 #100

When I'm talking about reaching I was referring to the idea that Brown Hooked_n_Looped Aug 2014 #108

I didn't say that at all, you just misunderstood me obviously. Rex Aug 2014 #110

You obviously believe what you choose to believe... Hooked_n_Looped Aug 2014 #112

No you just want to frame him for something he didn't do Rex Aug 2014 #113

This has to be placed here JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #4

Thanks for your agreement, Gen, but it should not matter how merrily Aug 2014 #17

Believe you me... ReRe Aug 2014 #18

What's interesting is that JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #53

An employee? ReRe Aug 2014 #71

P.S. Look at the rest of this thread so far. merrily Aug 2014 #35

Because we all AGREE his rights were viloated...that's not up for debate! hexola Aug 2014 #39

It is not up for debate? Really? Because it's been debated since he got shot. merrily Aug 2014 #44

I hope so too JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #48

Geez, JGen wish it was nobody, not that it was you. merrily Aug 2014 #52

That does make me laugh! JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #55

Is that really what you want, though? merrily Aug 2014 #63

But - I married at 39 JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #84

All the more reason. You did not rush into marriage before you merrily Aug 2014 #86

While this is irrelevant to MB being shot and killed, since it was posted I would add that the last Dustlawyer Aug 2014 #46

How does it show him paying for anything? LisaL Aug 2014 #5

You a cop? blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #42

None of your bisness. LisaL Aug 2014 #43

Sure it is! Motive! nt Logical Aug 2014 #88

Ha ha ha!!! SaltyBro Aug 2014 #7

The store owner never reported a theft procon Aug 2014 #13

The customer did. LisaL Aug 2014 #14

How you know what the customer saw? The theft...the scuffle? hexola Aug 2014 #24

And you do? LisaL Aug 2014 #25

The point is the video shows nothing conclusive about a pay transaction hexola Aug 2014 #32

I personally don't see the video showing any paid transaction by LisaL Aug 2014 #33

Yes, but what did the customer actually report? procon Aug 2014 #27

This is what I want to know. Quayblue Aug 2014 #73

The store owner would be the victim, who would have to press charges. JoePhilly Aug 2014 #37

Somebody at the store told the police they were willing to press charges alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #20

I doubt it. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #54

I appreciate your annotation, but it begs a further comment (I think). Somebody VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #56

No, been busy alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #58

Because, yeah, Mike Brown did not deserve to be shot for stealing cigars under VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #59

I f I was 18 and just stole something and a cop pulls up on me alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #62

More to the point, were I a federal DoJ investigator in town, I'd be VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #69

Well, would you walk in the middle of the street? LisaL Aug 2014 #70

Yes, it's odd...it doesn't display a consciousness of guilt for the most part alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #76

During an interview his friend azmom Aug 2014 #107

I'm not convinced Wilson ever heard that call at all alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #109

The story that he did hear the call was recanted later by the FPD CoP. Rex Aug 2014 #111

Good point. merrily Aug 2014 #82

All though it doesn't matter if he stole cigars or not... ybbor Aug 2014 #21

Your line 3 is the important one. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #29

I agree. Hard to stay focused on what really matters. IsItJustMe Aug 2014 #57

Dorian Johnson already admitted that they took the Cigarellos justiceischeap Aug 2014 #23

First - Johnson admitted the theft Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #36

Yes! ybbor Aug 2014 #50

Well it's good that it wasn't donuts being stolen or the pigs would have to nuke the whole town. L0oniX Aug 2014 #49

Oops! Rex Aug 2014 #60

I watched this video 4 times now and I don't see where he paid for B Calm Aug 2014 #61

I watched the video numerous times and I don't see LisaL Aug 2014 #65

I see him reaching in the counter area, what I don't see is money changing hands. WCLinolVir Aug 2014 #64

I think he is reaching for items behind the counter. LisaL Aug 2014 #67

Yeah I think so too, since he comes up with cigars in his hands. WCLinolVir Aug 2014 #75

Maybe he is pointing at what he wanted. Demit Aug 2014 #79

unbelievable - we can't believe anything from the media or the police any more samsingh Aug 2014 #66

What can you learn something from? LisaL Aug 2014 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author rbrnmw Aug 2014 #102

I don't think LisaL's response was cold and I think your comment is uncalled for onenote Aug 2014 #104

Don't you have to be 21 to buy tobacco products? Aerows Aug 2014 #92

18 Rex Aug 2014 #96

I wondered the same thing... KansDem Aug 2014 #106

There's nothing new in this video that's been around for a week. nt ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #93

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #101

Of course it does't matter whether he did or did not steal the cigarillos onenote Aug 2014 #103