If we would have helped Saddam more to fight the war with Iran... (Reply #11)

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Fri Aug 22, 2014, 10:33 AM

L0oniX (31,493 posts)

11. If we would have helped Saddam more to fight the war with Iran...

there wouldn't be an Isis. (hind sight puff) Ruthless as Saddam was he did keep his country in check. (I'll bet more young black men have been killed by the pigs since then than the people who died from Saddam gassing people) Helping them win the war with Iran would have at least subdued one of the Bush axis's of evil. Should the US be ashamed it helps the Saddam types now ...after it has always given its support to whoever gives the us a strategic advantage? I know ...I am saying we are dirty and been dirty going back to at least Kissinger and then Reagan. This is not a Superman tv show where "truth justice and the American way" as it was supposed ...prevails. IMO the biggest mistake this country has made is to not follow the warnings from the past from those who knew about the MIC's ideas and goals. We can be a country of war but we will never be a country of peace. Just look at Ferguson. That's what a country who's economy would fail without war turns into.

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72 replies	Author	Time	Post
Here We Go Again!!! "Islamic State militants pose 'biggest threat' to US" [View all]	grahamhgreen	Aug 2014	OP
Nah, it's still Fox "News".	Scuba	Aug 2014	#1
Any excuse in the book to continue the neo-con vision of the "long war".	malaise	Aug 2014	#2
Thanks! It aint rocket science with these brainiacs... remember the Vulcans?	grahamhgreen	Aug 2014	#10
so you think ISIS	qazplm	Aug 2014	#3
Not only that, but they wouldn't exist had we not done so:(	grahamhgreen	Aug 2014	#4
...and if we had not sold weapons to Saddam, Iran would have taken over Iraq.	L0oniX	Aug 2014	#8
No, not following... You mean the chemical weapons Rumsfeld sold to Saddam, and then	grahamhgreen	Aug 2014	#9
If we would have helped Saddam more to fight the war with Iran...	L0oniX	Aug 2014	#11
And if we had not overthrown Iran's democracy, we might be great friends now n/t	arcane1	Aug 2014	#54
So many mistakes ...so little wisdom.	L0oniX	Aug 2014	#67
Sad but true :(	arcane1	Aug 2014	#71
that's just plain insane	qazplm	Aug 2014	#55
In this case, destabilizing the region by invading Iraq, and supporting Surian rebels, is one of the	grahamhgreen	Aug 2014	#61
Have fun waving your flag.	L0oniX	Aug 2014	#68
I will never understand the "Blame America First Ethos"....	clarice	Aug 2014	#22
The first step to recovery for this nation is to admit we have a problem. [n/t]	Maedhros	Aug 2014	#28
Of course...every Country has it's problems.....at least we don't behead people. nt	clarice	Aug 2014	#29
Why is beheading someone worse than blowing up children with Hellfire missiles?	Maedhros	Aug 2014	#30
Perhaps it is prejudice..but I wouldn't want to live anywhere but here. You ? nt	clarice	Aug 2014	#31
I wouldn't mind leaving the United States for a country that is less callously bloodthirsty.	Maedhros	Aug 2014	#32
I'm sorry you feel this way...Peace and out. nt	clarice	Aug 2014	#34
It is amazing how clean the cities are in countries that are not run by their militarists.	grahamhgreen	Aug 2014	#66
at least under Mussolini the trains ran on time.	kwassa	Aug 2014	#72
Fair winds and full sails!	FrodosPet	Aug 2014	#39
American Militarism - love it or leave it, eh? [n/t]	Maedhros	Aug 2014	#40
LOL!	FrodosPet	Aug 2014	#42
False Dilemmas, love 'em or leave 'em, eh?	LanternWaste	Aug 2014	#48
I am so wanting to live in French Polynesia...	L0oniX	Aug 2014	#70
Stupidest post I've read today.	tabasco	Aug 2014	#60
I think the first step would be reading histor	LanternWaste	Aug 2014	#47
In this case, the biggest instigator of violence on the region does happen to be the US, doesn't it?	grahamhgreen	Aug 2014	#62
Blame imperialism first	eridani	Aug 2014	#64
I can't and never will respect or accept the rejection of introspect.	L0oniX	Aug 2014	#69
According to reports, "the beheader" was from London? mask off the cowards face & expose him.	Sunlei	Aug 2014	#5
Pull the mask back even further, and you get John Macain, and Lindsay Graham.... and Prince Bandar:	grahamhgreen	Aug 2014	#6
Don't forget to add the MIC mask too.	L0oniX	Aug 2014	#13
+100000 The ugly, and deliberate cycle.	woo me with science	Aug 2014	#41
McCain is such a prize, but imagine a world that doesnt use fossil fuels, wonder if we would	BaggersRDumb	Aug 2014	#53
We Created A Huge Army Of Nutters	CJCRANE	Aug 2014	#7
That sums it up nicley! Rinse and repeat, and you get endless war for perpetual profit, weehee!	grahamhgreen	Aug 2014	#12
Anything to help MIC stocks and congressional war investors.	L0oniX	Aug 2014	#14
yep, see you at the post-production party..	frylock	Aug 2014	#21
The turnaround this time was amazing.	CJCRANE	Aug 2014	#37
You would be thinkin' correctly...	truth2power	Aug 2014	#15
Gee and last week we heard	jen63	Aug 2014	#16
Let's see . . .	hifiguy	Aug 2014	#17
What you said ... 3 minutes earlier than me....	Bigmack	Aug 2014	#19
They got scimitars!!!! The "biggest threat" for sure:	grahamhgreen	Aug 2014	#38
Even without Western involvement..	Matrosov	Aug 2014	#18
Except that these groups were under control	CJCRANE	Aug 2014	#23
Not yet. But, after we sell them the 7th Fleet and 2ndMarDiv they will be.	Tierra_y_Libertad	Aug 2014	#20
Here's the thing	Rex	Aug 2014	#24
We are responsible for torturing Iraqi's and Abu Ghraib. We are resposible for the war crimes of the	grahamhgreen	Aug 2014	#36
Well I don't think we will have any of those things happen, because Obama is not the BFEE.	Rex	Aug 2014	#51
They're the newest stretch of track on the neocon railroad	whatchamacallit	Aug 2014	#25
I hope for a day when there is a "rush to Peace" in America.	Viva_Daddy	Aug 2014	#26
They have to address the challenge of Isis	flamingdem	Aug 2014	#27
"Isis can be contained pretty well with airstrikes." What makes you think that? I would submit	grahamhgreen	Aug 2014	#35
We're seeing the standard playbook right now.	Maedhros	Aug 2014	#43
They can't move into Jordan, Israel, Iran so they are contained	flamingdem	Aug 2014	#45
AFAIK there are less than that.	CJCRANE	Aug 2014	#46
Yes, they're using that old trick	flamingdem	Aug 2014	#49
Fair enough.	CJCRANE	Aug 2014	#50
haha wasn't thinking of the MSM exaggerating	flamingdem	Aug 2014	#59
they were killing a lot of people	qazplm	Aug 2014	#56
ISIS did not exist, and Al-Qaeda was not in Iraq before we got into it. Agreed?	grahamhgreen	Aug 2014	#58
Simple Question To Hagel	ProfessorGAC	Aug 2014	#33
Seems to me this group, and those like them, are bigger threats to the USA	n2doc	Aug 2014	#44
At some point there are just too many threats then what?	gordianot	Aug 2014	#52
Wait. Are you talking about these guys?	JEB	Aug 2014	#57
Yes, those guys!	grahamhgreen	Aug 2014	#63
It's like a slow motion false flag	JEB	Aug 2014	#65

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