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flamingdem

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27. They have to address the challenge of Isis

Fri Aug 22, 2014, 01:00 PM

Aug 2014

and this is not another Bush neo-con war, even if it's a monster created by those wars.

Isis can be contained pretty well with airstrikes. That's a lot different than boots on the ground.

Let's hope it's limited to that. It's about discouraging Isis and this has begun by taking back Mosul dam. The USA can't do anything about it past that, congress would have to approve for one thing, plus it's the problem of the new government in Iraq. Iraq has an army of 900,000 of which 300,00 are capable according to news reports. Isis is about 40-50k. Do the math. Assad has stepped up strikes as well.

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Here We Go Again!!! "Islamic State militants pose 'biggest threat' to US" [View all] grahamhgreen Aug 2014 OP

Nah, it's still Fox "News". Scuba Aug 2014 #1

Any excuse in the book to continue the neo-con vision of the "long war". malaise Aug 2014 #2

Thanks! It aint rocket science with these brainiacs... remember the Vulcans? grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #10

so you think ISIS qazplm Aug 2014 #3

Not only that, but they wouldn't exist had we not done so:( grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #4

...and if we had not sold weapons to Saddam, Iran would have taken over Iraq. L0oniX Aug 2014 #8

No, not following... You mean the chemical weapons Rumsfeld sold to Saddam, and then grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #9

If we would have helped Saddam more to fight the war with Iran... L0oniX Aug 2014 #11

And if we had not overthrown Iran's democracy, we might be great friends now n/t arcane1 Aug 2014 #54

So many mistakes ...so little wisdom. L0oniX Aug 2014 #67

Sad but true :( arcane1 Aug 2014 #71

that's just plain insane qazplm Aug 2014 #55

In this case, destabilizing the region by invading Iraq, and supporting Surian rebels, is one of the grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #61

Have fun waving your flag. L0oniX Aug 2014 #68

I will never understand the "Blame America First Ethos".... clarice Aug 2014 #22

The first step to recovery for this nation is to admit we have a problem. [n/t] Maedhros Aug 2014 #28

Of course...every Country has it's problems.....at least we don't behead people. nt clarice Aug 2014 #29

Why is beheading someone worse than blowing up children with Hellfire missiles? Maedhros Aug 2014 #30

Perhaps it is prejudice..but I wouldn't want to live anywhere but here. You ? nt clarice Aug 2014 #31

I wouldn't mind leaving the United States for a country that is less callously bloodthirsty. Maedhros Aug 2014 #32

I'm sorry you feel this way...Peace and out. nt clarice Aug 2014 #34

It is amazing how clean the cities are in countries that are not run by their militarists. grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #66

at least under Mussolini the trains ran on time. kwassa Aug 2014 #72

Fair winds and full sails! FrodosPet Aug 2014 #39

American Militarism - love it or leave it, eh? [n/t] Maedhros Aug 2014 #40

LOL! FrodosPet Aug 2014 #42

False Dilemmas, love 'em or leave 'em, eh? LanternWaste Aug 2014 #48

I am so wanting to live in French Polynesia... L0oniX Aug 2014 #70

Stupidest post I've read today. tabasco Aug 2014 #60

I think the first step would be reading histor LanternWaste Aug 2014 #47

In this case, the biggest instigator of violence on the region does happen to be the US, doesn't it? grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #62

Blame imperialism first eridani Aug 2014 #64

I can't and never will respect or accept the rejection of introspect. L0oniX Aug 2014 #69

According to reports, "the beheader" was from London? mask off the cowards face & expose him. Sunlei Aug 2014 #5

Pull the mask back even further, and you get John Macain, and Lindsay Graham.... and Prince Bandar: grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #6

Don't forget to add the MIC mask too. L0oniX Aug 2014 #13

+100000 The ugly, and deliberate cycle. woo me with science Aug 2014 #41

McCain is such a prize, but imagine a world that doesnt use fossil fuels, wonder if we would BaggersRDumb Aug 2014 #53

We Created A Huge Army Of Nutters CJCRANE Aug 2014 #7

That sums it up nicley! Rinse and repeat, and you get endless war for perpetual profit, weehee! grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #12

Anything to help MIC stocks and congressional war investors. L0oniX Aug 2014 #14

yep, see you at the post-production party.. frylock Aug 2014 #21

The turnaround this time was amazing. CJCRANE Aug 2014 #37

You would be thinkin' correctly... truth2power Aug 2014 #15

Gee and last week we heard jen63 Aug 2014 #16

Let's see . . . hifiguy Aug 2014 #17

What you said ... 3 minutes earlier than me.... Bigmack Aug 2014 #19

They got scimitars!!!! The "biggest threat" for sure: grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #38

Even without Western involvement.. Matrosov Aug 2014 #18

Except that these groups were under control CJCRANE Aug 2014 #23

Not yet. But, after we sell them the 7th Fleet and 2ndMarDiv they will be. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #20

Here's the thing Rex Aug 2014 #24

We are responsible for torturing Iraqi's and Abu Ghraib. We are resposible for the war crimes of the grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #36

Well I don't think we will have any of those things happen, because Obama is not the BFEE. Rex Aug 2014 #51

They're the newest stretch of track on the neocon railroad whatchamacallit Aug 2014 #25

I hope for a day when there is a "rush to Peace" in America. Viva_Daddy Aug 2014 #26

They have to address the challenge of Isis flamingdem Aug 2014 #27

"Isis can be contained pretty well with airstrikes." What makes you think that? I would submit grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #35

We're seeing the standard playbook right now. Maedhros Aug 2014 #43

They can't move into Jordan, Israel, Iran so they are contained flamingdem Aug 2014 #45

AFAIK there are less than that. CJCRANE Aug 2014 #46

Yes, they're using that old trick flamingdem Aug 2014 #49

Fair enough. CJCRANE Aug 2014 #50

haha wasn't thinking of the MSM exaggerating flamingdem Aug 2014 #59

they were killing a lot of people qazplm Aug 2014 #56

ISIS did not exist, and Al-Qaeda was not in Iraq before we got into it. Agreed? grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #58

Simple Question To Hagel ProfessorGAC Aug 2014 #33

Seems to me this group, and those like them, are bigger threats to the USA n2doc Aug 2014 #44

At some point there are just too many threats then what? gordianot Aug 2014 #52

Wait. Are you talking about these guys? JEB Aug 2014 #57

Yes, those guys! grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #63

It's like a slow motion false flag JEB Aug 2014 #65