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KittyWampus

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11. I disagree> the photographer owned the camera, the film and thus the rights to the images

Fri Aug 22, 2014, 02:00 PM

Aug 2014

taken with his camera and equipment.

The photographer also CHOOSE to make the image public.

The photographer also CREATED THE SITUATION.

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Monkey�s selfie cannot be copyrighted, US regulators say [View all] PoliticAverse Aug 2014 OP

Is it a monkey or an ape? Orrex Aug 2014 #1

A macaque monkey in Indonesia apparently... PoliticAverse Aug 2014 #2

Will that have any bearing on the legality of this issue? In_The_Wind Aug 2014 #4

Glad that you asked! Orrex Aug 2014 #5

Well then, that settles that. In_The_Wind Aug 2014 #9

You are very surili. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #35

It does if some other animal wanted to ape its style... n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2014 #7

They'd have to adjust the camera's aperture. Orrex Aug 2014 #10

It would need time Aerows Aug 2014 #25

if it has a tail it's a monkey- no tail it's an ape leftyohiolib Aug 2014 #26

That's what I thought. Then, by the article's reckoning... Orrex Aug 2014 #30

Funny, recent stories I've been reading about this says the photog claimed justiceischeap Aug 2014 #3

That's about how long it takes a photography student to figure it out, too. Orrex Aug 2014 #6

Cool selfie. Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #8

Thank you. I thought it could've used more contrast, but I'm still happy with it. bluesbassman Aug 2014 #17

I think I'll email that whenever someone asks me for a photo... n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2014 #22

What an excellent sense of composition and color lunatica Aug 2014 #44

I disagree> the photographer owned the camera, the film and thus the rights to the images KittyWampus Aug 2014 #11

Interesting. If you take a picture with my camera, do I own that picture? Orrex Aug 2014 #14

Having an animal take a picture is the exact same as simply having ones camera KittyWampus Aug 2014 #27

Why should the photographer get to copyright random shots? Orrex Aug 2014 #33

Sometimes the photographer does - Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #53

I agree completely (nt) Orrex Aug 2014 #54

Nope. Xithras Aug 2014 #20

a monkey isn't a person. Thus the photos are the same as if photographer had set camera up KittyWampus Aug 2014 #28

I think that's the problem. If he had offered to sell the original film, which he owns, before the p cbdo2007 Aug 2014 #39

That's not the standard for copyright. Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #51

in any event, hornbook contract law hifiguy Aug 2014 #12

The monkey must specifically transfer the copyright, mere payment isn't enough PoliticAverse Aug 2014 #15

First, you must prove the monkey capable of contract. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #36

That monkey - or ape - is smart enough to take hifiguy Aug 2014 #37

You set a low bar, sir. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #38

This is how Planet of the Apes got started. Yavin4 Aug 2014 #13

This ruling just feels wrong to me. procon Aug 2014 #16

You can submit an opinion/comment on the matter to the copyright office... PoliticAverse Aug 2014 #19

Why should ownership of the camera have anything to do with it? Orrex Aug 2014 #24

Because the PHOTOGRAPHER CREATED THE SITUATION. KittyWampus Aug 2014 #29

The photographer is also simply an act of nature Orrex Aug 2014 #31

I know, I gotta agree with you here. nt cwydro Aug 2014 #46

Painting is a different medium than photography procon Aug 2014 #32

Neither of those is relevant here Orrex Aug 2014 #34

Not to get too far removed from the ruling procon Aug 2014 #42

From Slater's website... PoliticAverse Aug 2014 #45

Jesus Christ! Are these reports written by hand on Post-It Notes? nt ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #18

Here is the mentioned section of the compendium: PoliticAverse Aug 2014 #21

O.F.F.S! denbot Aug 2014 #23

This has GOT to be a hoax lol. cwydro Aug 2014 #40

I don't see how this is different than a motion sensor picture... cbdo2007 Aug 2014 #41

The author's creativity in setting it up is different. Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #49

That guy should have just said he pushed a button. LisaL Aug 2014 #50

It isn't that the monkey was the creative one - Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #52

Heh heh heh. Octafish Aug 2014 #43

who is the monkey? GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #47

How about this cat's selfie, have they ruled on it yet? Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #48