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procon

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32. Painting is a different medium than photography
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 03:05 PM
Aug 2014

but actually a similar case exists with the popular artist, Thomas Kincaid -- I know, his critics might very well compare him to zombies -- hired artists to add embellishments to prints of his paintings and profited handsomely. Nonetheless, the artworks were still his property, not the artists who applied the extra paint.

Back to camera, though, there are some well known photographers who have presented photo collections made from digital cameras that were handed out to random people to document a specific subject of interest. The photographers still retained the intellectual property rights to the work, not the people taking the shots.



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Is it a monkey or an ape? Orrex Aug 2014 #1
A macaque monkey in Indonesia apparently... PoliticAverse Aug 2014 #2
Will that have any bearing on the legality of this issue? In_The_Wind Aug 2014 #4
Glad that you asked! Orrex Aug 2014 #5
Well then, that settles that. In_The_Wind Aug 2014 #9
You are very surili. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #35
It does if some other animal wanted to ape its style... n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2014 #7
They'd have to adjust the camera's aperture. Orrex Aug 2014 #10
It would need time Aerows Aug 2014 #25
if it has a tail it's a monkey- no tail it's an ape leftyohiolib Aug 2014 #26
That's what I thought. Then, by the article's reckoning... Orrex Aug 2014 #30
Funny, recent stories I've been reading about this says the photog claimed justiceischeap Aug 2014 #3
That's about how long it takes a photography student to figure it out, too. Orrex Aug 2014 #6
Cool selfie. Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #8
Thank you. I thought it could've used more contrast, but I'm still happy with it. bluesbassman Aug 2014 #17
I think I'll email that whenever someone asks me for a photo... n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2014 #22
What an excellent sense of composition and color lunatica Aug 2014 #44
I disagree> the photographer owned the camera, the film and thus the rights to the images KittyWampus Aug 2014 #11
Interesting. If you take a picture with my camera, do I own that picture? Orrex Aug 2014 #14
Having an animal take a picture is the exact same as simply having ones camera KittyWampus Aug 2014 #27
Why should the photographer get to copyright random shots? Orrex Aug 2014 #33
Sometimes the photographer does - Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #53
I agree completely (nt) Orrex Aug 2014 #54
Nope. Xithras Aug 2014 #20
a monkey isn't a person. Thus the photos are the same as if photographer had set camera up KittyWampus Aug 2014 #28
I think that's the problem. If he had offered to sell the original film, which he owns, before the p cbdo2007 Aug 2014 #39
That's not the standard for copyright. Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #51
in any event, hornbook contract law hifiguy Aug 2014 #12
The monkey must specifically transfer the copyright, mere payment isn't enough PoliticAverse Aug 2014 #15
First, you must prove the monkey capable of contract. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #36
That monkey - or ape - is smart enough to take hifiguy Aug 2014 #37
You set a low bar, sir. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #38
This is how Planet of the Apes got started. Yavin4 Aug 2014 #13
This ruling just feels wrong to me. procon Aug 2014 #16
You can submit an opinion/comment on the matter to the copyright office... PoliticAverse Aug 2014 #19
Why should ownership of the camera have anything to do with it? Orrex Aug 2014 #24
Because the PHOTOGRAPHER CREATED THE SITUATION. KittyWampus Aug 2014 #29
The photographer is also simply an act of nature Orrex Aug 2014 #31
I know, I gotta agree with you here. nt cwydro Aug 2014 #46
Painting is a different medium than photography procon Aug 2014 #32
Neither of those is relevant here Orrex Aug 2014 #34
Not to get too far removed from the ruling procon Aug 2014 #42
From Slater's website... PoliticAverse Aug 2014 #45
Jesus Christ! Are these reports written by hand on Post-It Notes? nt ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #18
Here is the mentioned section of the compendium: PoliticAverse Aug 2014 #21
O.F.F.S! denbot Aug 2014 #23
This has GOT to be a hoax lol. cwydro Aug 2014 #40
I don't see how this is different than a motion sensor picture... cbdo2007 Aug 2014 #41
The author's creativity in setting it up is different. Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #49
That guy should have just said he pushed a button. LisaL Aug 2014 #50
It isn't that the monkey was the creative one - Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #52
Heh heh heh. Octafish Aug 2014 #43
who is the monkey? GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #47
How about this cat's selfie, have they ruled on it yet? Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #48
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