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TorchTheWitch

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12. the reason that shoot to kill is required
Sat Aug 23, 2014, 01:50 PM
Aug 2014

is that if you shoot for any other reason there is no reason to shoot at all. In order to use a gun at all the threat must be so severe that killing is a necessity.

As for why police in shootings fire so many shots, as I understand it waiting between shots to see what happens next is too dangerous, and they're trained to continue firing until the perp is no longer moving (ie: no longer a possible threat). Being down doesn't always mean being out. Being down can mean being dead, being wounded and still a threat or not being wounded or dead and having just hit the dirt when fired at yet still a threat. If they're shooting to kill in the first place I'm not seeing what difference it makes how many bullets are used. As long as they stop when the perp is down AND out rather than empying the clip then they acted correctly from the point of the decision that shooting was necessary.

Brown was shot 6 times samsingh Aug 2014 #1
I think they shoot until the threat has stopped aikoaiko Aug 2014 #2
Baloney Demsrule86 Aug 2014 #20
Don't let your anger keep you from differentiating crimes from self-defense. aikoaiko Aug 2014 #23
I agree. Especially when that person isn't even holding a gun, like the knife wielder pnwmom Aug 2014 #3
Police generally follow the 21-foot rule with regard to knives NickB79 Aug 2014 #15
Except he wasn't charging. EVER. And when he COLLAPSED on the ground, they kept shooting. pnwmom Aug 2014 #16
They let him get within 5-6 feet, which was stupid for all parties involved NickB79 Aug 2014 #17
And they kept ordering him to drop his gun -- which he didn't have. pnwmom Aug 2014 #18
I think cops lose their minds. jambo101 Aug 2014 #4
I think it is to prove the victim of the shooting was a threat. Jappleseed Aug 2014 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #19
Once you have crossed the threshold to use deadly force Lee-Lee Aug 2014 #6
It's overkill... Punkingal Aug 2014 #8
You're not understanding the time frame involved Lurks Often Aug 2014 #9
After I saw that video from the UK though treestar Aug 2014 #10
It was clear Kijames was doing it just for suicide - but they have to shoot someone with a knife MillennialDem Aug 2014 #11
I keep hearing that, but then I see the video of the old man in pajamas in the street logosoco Aug 2014 #22
The 21 foot rule applies if both the knife and the gun are holstered and that's not what I said MillennialDem Aug 2014 #24
I am hoping that all cops who do this... Demsrule86 Aug 2014 #21
Hunters are taught not to leave a wounded prey. Downwinder Aug 2014 #7
the reason that shoot to kill is required TorchTheWitch Aug 2014 #12
Dead men tell no tales Populist_Prole Aug 2014 #13
Because they are afraid. Iggo Aug 2014 #14
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