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VanGoghRocks

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141. Out here in Los Angeles, I don't know as the RCP is so much 'despised,' as it is 'ridiculed,' since

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 09:28 PM

Aug 2014

its main function out here seems to be selling its newspaper Revolution The Pacifica affiliate here, KPFK, frequently features a RCP commentator on the Michael Slate show named (IIRC) "Larry Everest." I have always found Mr. Everest's commentary to be pretty spot-on, if only b/c he stays away from the constant promotion of 'Chairman Bob.' Revolution also has some hard-hitting writers in its news area, certainly writing much harder prose than the bourgeois media (with the exception, perhaps, of Charlie Pierce in Esquire).

Full Disclosure: I may have actually at one point been 'recruited' to join the RCP 2004-05. I didn't make the cut (obviously!) , probly b/c I kept correcting the interrogator\recruiter on specific points related to Marxism-Leninism The Maoist\Nepal stuff gets pretty esoteric sometimes and is not my area of expertise.

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At the risk of annoying many DUers I have to say [View all] malaise Aug 2014 OP

You do not annoy me, I agree. oldandhappy Aug 2014 #1

What would they say that will advance the ducussion? OLDMADAM Aug 2014 #130

O70 I believe Kalidurga Aug 2014 #144

+1000000 nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #149

Thank you Kalidurga Aug 2014 #160

All of the above would be good points JEB Aug 2014 #162

"You don't know the facts." .. Absolutely true.. OLDMADAM Aug 2014 #166

It doesn't strike me as unfaithful Kalidurga Aug 2014 #167

Thank you, you made my case better than I could have.. OLDMADAM Aug 2014 #190

Have you actually looked the available evidence over yet? Veilex Aug 2014 #204

That is as fair as can be said.. OLDMADAM Aug 2014 #208

I understand the hesitation... Veilex Aug 2014 #218

That is a thoughtful reply, and I thank you for it, however.. OLDMADAM Aug 2014 #219

Understood, but again... Veilex Aug 2014 #221

The only crime in being proven wrong indivisibleman Aug 2014 #195

Conclussions are drawn from the totality of the evidance.. OLDMADAM Aug 2014 #201

Teens? Boudica the Lyoness Aug 2014 #217

Thank you.. I stand corrected.. OLDMADAM Aug 2014 #220

People who say, "wait for the facts to come out" indivisibleman Aug 2014 #193

+1,000 malaise Aug 2014 #224

Its not a matter of advancing the ducussion... Veilex Aug 2014 #202

Whether you chose to vote for her or not is youur perogitive.. OLDMADAM Aug 2014 #206

Thank God there are still objective Legalequilibrium78 Aug 2014 #210

I totaly agree steelsmith Aug 2014 #222

or not nt msongs Aug 2014 #2

i have mentioned it all week. hey hillary, your three a.m. phone is ringing roguevalley Aug 2014 #104

You don't annoy me either. Bill and Hillary Clinton should stand up and speak out on Ferguson. I Louisiana1976 Aug 2014 #3

Given that the cops are (and have been since, oh, about 1981) a goon squad for the VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #62

They left the White House poor 4b5f940728b232b034e4 Aug 2014 #136

You betcha! Bill Clinton net worth- $80 million; HRC - between $5 & $25 million Divernan Aug 2014 #178

Malaise can always be counted on for great OP's and posts. IrishAyes Aug 2014 #158

They may not be commenting on it because ZombieHorde Aug 2014 #4

the only ones saying this....just want them to say something so they have something to VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #6

LOL, you crack me up! nt Logical Aug 2014 #7

It's unreal. There's always a spin I guess. nt stillwaiting Aug 2014 #172

...or because she caught shit for supporting the Netanyahu. Iggo Aug 2014 #10

So she learned a lesson after supporting violent attacks on Palestinian civilians ... starroute Aug 2014 #52

I didn't say it was the right thing to do. Iggo Aug 2014 #60

Obama can use that excuse. HRC is a private citizen she can not taint the case. Vincardog Aug 2014 #15

That is my guess too, but I wanted to offer an alternative view. nt ZombieHorde Aug 2014 #27

Winner, winner, chicken dinner. hifiguy Aug 2014 #37

She supported klling over 1,000,000 Iraqi civiilians based on lies, so I don't VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #63

That's an interesting pov. She doesn't want to piss off the Center Right? 2banon Aug 2014 #94

Yes it's called Triangulation, sprts Aug 2014 #101

No the problem here is that "Racists/bigoted out of control police force murdering an unarmed human" Vincardog Aug 2014 #113

"HRC is a private citizen" and she is allowed to speak or not speak on any topic she wishes but cstanleytech Aug 2014 #95

Poor HRC. People will pick on her no matter what she says. I will. She is a too for the Aristocracy rhett o rick Aug 2014 #128

Your post proves my point rhett, thank you. cstanleytech Aug 2014 #150

There's only been two Presidents in my lifetime that weren't tools for the elite of our society. Leontius Aug 2014 #211

In or out of Office. HRC is not a "Private" Citizen, albeit technically true until her last breath. 2banon Aug 2014 #184

That was a quote from Vincardog. And there is no wool over my eyes at all I just cstanleytech Aug 2014 #188

Sure it's her choice. That's not the argument or the criticism, strawman 2banon Aug 2014 #192

I think they alsodo no want to taint their election chances. pennylane100 Aug 2014 #25

Is Bill running for something? nt mimi85 Aug 2014 #139

They're not commenting because in all these serious situations they always say the wrong thing. tridim Aug 2014 #176

You're right. It's certainly not cool. n/t Cleita Aug 2014 #5

Instead of anoying me it is a pleasure to see this op. mylye2222 Aug 2014 #8

They don't want to dissuade any rightwing voters who may want to vote for her. mmonk Aug 2014 #9

Yep! !!!!! mylye2222 Aug 2014 #14

They have it made financially, and the golden office is a damn nightmare, not juajen Aug 2014 #110

This is it. They don't want to upset their Republican colleagues JaydenD Aug 2014 #35

"the palestinians of Ferguson"...Bwahahahahaha! Yeah, okay. WinkyDink Aug 2014 #214

and conservative white donors Doctor_J Aug 2014 #124

Clinton: Obama Not Winning Over "Hard-Working Americans, White Americans" JaydenD Aug 2014 #163

I agree. jwirr Aug 2014 #11

Not annoying me. I spent the '90s defending them, strongly supported her in '08 UTUSN Aug 2014 #12

Thank you. Well said. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #75

I agree with that juajen Aug 2014 #114

Has Elizabeth Warren spoken about Ferguson? MoonRiver Aug 2014 #129

Yes, please do an Internet search. nt MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #143

Well to be fair... Cali_Democrat Aug 2014 #13

Hear, hear. Contrast Warren's and Sanders' near-silence with the near-unanimous and VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #66

Thank you for acknowledging this wyldwolf Aug 2014 #72

Bob AMWAYkian. OilemFirchen Aug 2014 #90

I'm no devotee of the cult of Chairman Bob. But I don't get the Amway reference. Is VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #106

There may not be a financial incentive... OilemFirchen Aug 2014 #115

Out here in Los Angeles, I don't know as the RCP is so much 'despised,' as it is 'ridiculed,' since VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #141

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day... nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #161

Don't forget Workers' Power- US and the League for a Fifth International..... socialist_n_TN Aug 2014 #93

But Hillary's silence is deafening. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #78

Please elucidate. juajen Aug 2014 #209

Well to be fair, that's 100% more than Hillary has done to this point. U4ikLefty Aug 2014 #96

I agree. The silence is deafening. nt alsame Aug 2014 #16

Silence doesn't mean approval.... fadedrose Aug 2014 #17

You're not annoying ME LloydS of New London Aug 2014 #18

Especially since people liked to call BC the" first black president". sadoldgirl Aug 2014 #19

silence that speaks so much louder than words seveneyes Aug 2014 #20

I totally agree with you. avebury Aug 2014 #21

Well said malaise Aug 2014 #23

I Agree They Should Speak Out, Ma'am The Magistrate Aug 2014 #22

Profound malaise Aug 2014 #24

. BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2014 #51

so tru dat. mopinko Aug 2014 #126

Indeed. (nt) paleotn Aug 2014 #148

She's a private individual. Not in government and not in congress. Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #26

Hmmmmm. But stop and think about why truedelphi Aug 2014 #31

answers DonCoquixote Aug 2014 #84

I agree...... socialist_n_TN Aug 2014 #97

Where have you been? Paka Aug 2014 #89

Not even the ones in office are required to share their thoughts. cstanleytech Aug 2014 #98

shes in iowa non candidating around. people in positions of influence are obligated to speak out roguevalley Aug 2014 #109

Sorry, I have a pet peeve: It's shoo-in, not shoe. juajen Aug 2014 #119

I wish she'd just shoo n/t leftstreet Aug 2014 #142

well to be fair... magical thyme Aug 2014 #28

I am NOT annoyed...Hillary is making it difficult to support her KauaiK Aug 2014 #29

Support her for what? She's not running for anything. Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #32

Not running....hahahahahahaha KauaiK Aug 2014 #39

OK. You should make a list of everyone who you anticipate might run for office, Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #42

What do you want Hillary to do and say... FarPoint Aug 2014 #45

It doesn't harm the people of Ferguson -- it harms her personally starroute Aug 2014 #55

I totally disagree. FarPoint Aug 2014 #61

Not from here it doesn't. juajen Aug 2014 #121

If Bill is the not so smart one, why should we believe him? JaydenD Aug 2014 #145

I guess the Clinton's ability to triangulate their political image has finally hit a Baitball Blogger Aug 2014 #30

+1 ReRe Aug 2014 #81

Completely agree. riqster Aug 2014 #33

I also am very disappointed theHandpuppet Aug 2014 #34

but it's not just THEIR own silence bigtree Aug 2014 #36

Hence this line malaise Aug 2014 #38

you're not annoying me! BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2014 #40

just seems like I have no words to express the deeply sad, tired, fed-up feelings. malaise Aug 2014 #44

hugs...back atcha BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2014 #58

This as a very tenacious issue. FarPoint Aug 2014 #41

Has Jimmy Carter made his views known? Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #43

Excellent point. FarPoint Aug 2014 #46

Not to my knowledge. FarPoint Aug 2014 #49

You do realize Jimmy Carter is still alive and he hasn't issued a statement either? pnwmom Aug 2014 #47

Did I miss where Obama spoke up? nt ellenrr Aug 2014 #48

Yes Cali_Democrat Aug 2014 #50

Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #53

They haven't finished balancing the books albino65 Aug 2014 #54

The Clintons are neither pacifists nor liberals. Bette Noir Aug 2014 #56

Racist slaughter on American soil happynewyear Aug 2014 #57

I think HRC is trying to gain some crossover appeal to Midwest rednecks. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #59

Remember how she courted the "hard-working Americans, white Americans" in W. Virginia? RufusTFirefly Aug 2014 #69

why just her? where are all the 2016 hopefuls, who also opined on I/P? La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2014 #64

No annoyance here. 99Forever Aug 2014 #65

They're waiting for Sister Souljah to chime in RufusTFirefly Aug 2014 #67

Elizabeth Warren has made a tweet on Fergusan. wyldwolf Aug 2014 #68

Perhaps because they're supporters of Darren Wilson? nt NorthCarolina Aug 2014 #70

I am withholding judgement until the evidence comes out. Unicorn_Actual Aug 2014 #71

Agree 100% n/t beaglelover Aug 2014 #73

Many people are already finding the cop innocent. arcane1 Aug 2014 #74

Presuming innocence is not worrisome. Presuming guilt, however, is. Unicorn_Actual Aug 2014 #76

Presuming Brown's guilt is worrisome too n/t arcane1 Aug 2014 #79

Who's dead and who's not? Who was armed and who wasn't?..... socialist_n_TN Aug 2014 #100

+1000 nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #164

So if the cop didn't shoot him, who did? BuelahWitch Aug 2014 #122

The question is whether he is guilty of murder, or guilty of defending himself. Unicorn_Actual Aug 2014 #152

But wouldn't one have to completely discount the testimony of all Dragonfli Aug 2014 #155

*IF* he got any type of injury at all from this (and that's a big if) BuelahWitch Aug 2014 #157

He acidentaly shot himself six times after beating officer Wilson into a coma, stealing his gun and Dragonfli Aug 2014 #154

Bless your heart. Unicorn_Actual Aug 2014 #194

I love that phrase, it allows one to disparage another while feigning civility Dragonfli Aug 2014 #196

Waiting for it to blow over, you mean. Jester Messiah Aug 2014 #191

That is a very curious silence. blackspade Aug 2014 #77

I agree DonCoquixote Aug 2014 #80

Forget the Clintons... what did Oprah say? DURHAM D Aug 2014 #82

I didn't know Oprah was running for President. wow. JaydenD Aug 2014 #85

So by not announcing her candidacy, and writing a book, she is being "sneaky and slippery"? Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #134

Yes it is early, for everyone else. But if you happen to be a Clinton and hatch books every so often JaydenD Aug 2014 #138

Yeah, and what about Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods?1!?!1 U4ikLefty Aug 2014 #92

Where is Hillary Clinton on Ferguson. article: JaydenD Aug 2014 #83

K&R Paka Aug 2014 #86

What did Dubya say? Or Jimmy Carter? Or GHWB? WinkyDink Aug 2014 #87

Hillary has been stuffing her opinions on everything in our faces lately JaydenD Aug 2014 #91

Okay, that's it. I mentioned BOTH Bushes, but I'm "picking on" Carter? No; I'm pointing out the WinkyDink Aug 2014 #212

which of those are campaigning for 2016 JaydenD Aug 2014 #213

I don't believe that ANYthing HRC would say would satisfy you; I've read your above posts. WinkyDink Aug 2014 #215

Very little of what Hillary says satisfies me, this is true. JaydenD Aug 2014 #216

Former SecState comments on Gaza. JoePhilly Aug 2014 #88

You're not annoying me... ReRe Aug 2014 #99

Check out this video and transcript malaise Aug 2014 #102

GD it! ReRe Aug 2014 #111

The Clintons have always been cautious pols tea and oranges Aug 2014 #103

Well, I would do it tavernier Aug 2014 #118

Your right. And its so demoralizing that the people nilesobek Aug 2014 #133

Perhaps in the ferguson situation, their big money hughee99 Aug 2014 #105

This case is a matter of law, not politics rock Aug 2014 #107

Another Reason to Reject Hillary; AWOL on Ferguson (dailykos) JaydenD Aug 2014 #108

Yes, I am annoyed uwep Aug 2014 #112

Those two just want power LittleBlue Aug 2014 #116

They don't have to stick their necks out aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2014 #117

Or leaving the body of the teenager in the street for four hours malaise Aug 2014 #120

They're probably too busy wining and dining Blanche Lincoln and other RW DINO's. blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #123

Pivot to the Far Right...and then throw Bones to the Left after the Primary KoKo Aug 2014 #125

They are shrewd politicians MoleyRusselsWart Aug 2014 #127

Leadership is waiting ... GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #131

To prove your point...Check Out this Video of Josh Barro on 'Up with Steve Kornacki' Stellar Aug 2014 #132

Silence is appropriate until the facts come out. JEFF9K Aug 2014 #135

They are waiting to find out what they should say. Isn't that how they do things? jillan Aug 2014 #137

Thanks for pointing this out jimlup Aug 2014 #140

How many times do I need to tell MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #146

Well, one of the vacation months, anyway. nt woo me with science Aug 2014 #169

I agree. (nt) paleotn Aug 2014 #147

the clintons. LOL n/t KG Aug 2014 #151

Maybe they were golfing together! eaglerom Aug 2014 #153

you will never annoy me malaise....on the other hand, our nation..... spanone Aug 2014 #156

True. K&R. IrishAyes Aug 2014 #159

Personally, I do not think you are annoying DUers! akbacchus_BC Aug 2014 #165

why Brown and not Eric Garner? Enrique Aug 2014 #168

Good point malaise Aug 2014 #171

K&R It's a pretty damned clear message. woo me with science Aug 2014 #170

Maybe we can change her Shankapotomus Aug 2014 #173

Don't worry. I'm sure she'll get back to us after the 3 public opinion polls telling her what her chrisa Aug 2014 #174

proving to wall street she's tough enough to ignore the non-rich, just like the others before her whereisjustice Aug 2014 #175

Sometimes the correct political position can be hard to calculate. gtar100 Aug 2014 #177

She is going to run as the right wing freeptard she is. harun Aug 2014 #179

They've Made This Ongoing fredamae Aug 2014 #180

Excellent post malaise Aug 2014 #182

It really doesn't take much time to say something about it... L0oniX Aug 2014 #181

Use oppression as an excuse for war while funding oppressive regimes and turning a blind eye to Chathamization Aug 2014 #183

At least they should push the police to change. To much silence from those who have a voice. Sunlei Aug 2014 #185

That is known as the political third rail. Tab Aug 2014 #186

I'm not annoyed. H2O Man Aug 2014 #187

No annoyance from me suffragette Aug 2014 #189

I think it is a damned if you do and damned if you don't situtation. indivisibleman Aug 2014 #197

I hope you're right malaise Aug 2014 #198

I hear ya indivisibleman Aug 2014 #199

The Ferguson situation is currently a third rail type thing tiredtoo Aug 2014 #200

It was just black people, after all. Not like it was real people. BlueStreak Aug 2014 #205

There were TWO cold-blooded slayings in Ferguson, not one. BlueStreak Aug 2014 #203

The silence on the slaughter of the mentally ill is even more disturbing malaise Aug 2014 #207

I don't know if he was mentally ill or high, but I do know BlueStreak Aug 2014 #223