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In reply to the discussion: At the risk of annoying many DUers I have to say [View all]fredamae
(4,458 posts)decades long problem a matter of politics which is, imo A Huge Mistake.
I must wonder if they (collectively over the decades) are afraid of being accused of all of this because it is they who have helped pass the bills to allow LEO this kind of "power of abuse", chipped away at Our rights for redress of these sorts of actions, created New laws, making felons out of otherwise law abiding citizens, maintained the WoD's And used our tax dollars allocated via various budgets to Fund all of it.
The way I see it: The Buck Stops In Congress-and at every State Legislature, POTUS and Governor for having passed and signed into law the various means that have culminated to the current system of a Police State?
We must also bear some of the responsibility for it is "us" who have agreed along the way (mostly) and who have and continue to elect the very officials who have created this mess.
We laughed, discredited, mocked, fought and shunned those who did try to warn us about what was coming: We called them crazy.
If congress owns it, will they be viewed as part of the problem-considered in dereliction of duty by willingly and intentionally inflicting this uncalled for, Unnecessary abuse? Or will they appear too stupid and inept for having Failed to "see the big picture" ie: Understand consequences to the people they serve?
Or will they appear too arrogant for having Ignored our pleas for Justice Reform over these same decades, to STOP this and hold LEO accountable? We have been made, imo totally Irrelevant, by those we hire to serve us in this larger discussion and I'm not at all confident that this has changed by these horrific recent events.
Just a couple months ago-there was a bill to Demilitarize LEO-Here are the Votes (Every Oregon Congresscritter voted Against it Except for Rep Blumenauer...out of 4 Dems and 1 GOP'r)
145 Dems in Congress voted to Keep the Status quo of Militarized Police.
Comforting ain't it?
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2014/roll329.xml
In most humble opinion-these "people" owe us an Explanation...Truthful and politics can go to hell.
Or am I completely missing something else?