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Douglas Carpenter

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65. No, in a game of good cop versus bad cop, I guess I'll have to choose the good cop

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Sun Aug 24, 2014, 01:16 PM

Aug 2014

But Rand Paul has only slightly more of chance of winning the Republican nomination in 2016 than I do.

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Regardless of your opinion of HRC, anyone here actually want to see Rand Paul win in a head to head? [View all] wyldwolf Aug 2014 OP

This should be interesting, waiting to see the posts. Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #1

The Straight Question, Sir, Is Unlikely To Get A Straight Answer.... The Magistrate Aug 2014 #2

That's a strange comment. I'll give you a straight answer: NO! BillZBubb Aug 2014 #21

Such laziness in your callout! leftstreet Aug 2014 #3

Who in that thread thinks that Rand Paul would be better for this country? Link to the post please. Autumn Aug 2014 #4

I don't want to see either of them win. Which is why I won't vote for either of them. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #5

Hello Independent....thanks for identifying yourself..... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #13

I'm a Democrat who regards my vote as my own...not Hillary's or the Party's. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #19

The only voice we have is our vote, and our voices are being ignored. Autumn Aug 2014 #44

Our voices are ignored only before the election. After, it's blame-the-left if it's lost. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #64

We need to help extremist Republicans win emulatorloo Aug 2014 #69

If you're convinced of that, then you should vote Republican. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #71

No I will never vote Republican. emulatorloo Aug 2014 #82

Well, we have something in common. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #84

I hope someone will challenge and defeat HRC in the Primary emulatorloo Aug 2014 #86

I can only say that is an ignorant reply. Our job as Democrats is to keep the Autumn Aug 2014 #78

I don't believe Paul can stand up to intense national scrutiny emulatorloo Aug 2014 #90

Our party leaders sit in their little mansions and send we, the Democratic base out to battle. Autumn Aug 2014 #96

Just look at how well Paul handled the civil rights act issue Gothmog Aug 2014 #100

Funny how that works isn't it? But hey GOTV Autumn Aug 2014 #72

They have to have a convenient scapegoat when they fail to convince voters to vote for them. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #77

This place just gets all "mavericky" sometimes. Autumn Aug 2014 #89

You can say that again. Puglover Aug 2014 #141

A whole lot of little mavericks . Except for at home, Autumn Aug 2014 #154

Yes, and we can send a message by helping elect Paul Ryan emulatorloo Aug 2014 #66

The centrists hijack the party and then say you're not welcome here. Broward Aug 2014 #85

PLUS ONE, a whole bunch! Enthusiast Aug 2014 #151

I've known that for a LONG time. BlueCaliDem Aug 2014 #101

"I won't vote for either one" = "I'm voting for Paul." 6000eliot Aug 2014 #104

No it doesn't. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #108

don't forget her wall street ties and trade deals. nt magical thyme Aug 2014 #124

Hell no. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #6

Shhh. Savannahmann Aug 2014 #9

First, thanks for the link to my post. I'd link back but I doubt anyone would see it. Savannahmann Aug 2014 #7

Those who will vote for rand are single issue voters. They will tell you they are not... Tikki Aug 2014 #8

Young people vote for Rand Paul because they think he will legalize pot... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #16

Oh, Rand has a huge fanclub on DU Blue_Tires Aug 2014 #10

I agree Andy823 Aug 2014 #111

No. JaydenD Aug 2014 #11

there are members of DU that admit to that? VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #12

No, I didn't see any of that in that thread. JaydenD Aug 2014 #20

that is the stupidest thing I have heard on the Internet so far today! VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #23

there is time for much more stupidty... I won't comment further on that but JaydenD Aug 2014 #24

ain't nobody got time for that much stupidity.... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #30

I see you neglected taking advice from yesterday on Debating Skills 101 JaydenD Aug 2014 #31

I don't take advice from Rand Paul supporters.... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #32

Then you replied to the wrong post, because I am not a Paul supporter JaydenD Aug 2014 #33

Oh yes you are...IF you support HIM over ANY Democrat.... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #35

+ 1000 BlueCaliDem Aug 2014 #102

Hahahaha! zappaman Aug 2014 #105

OOOOOH the Humanity!!!!! VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #110

I think a lot of folks here (and elsewhere) War Horse Aug 2014 #116

they don't care...they think suddenly the Libertarians like they are welcome in the Democratic Party VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #117

No. TwilightGardener Aug 2014 #14

Of course not, but I'm not voting for the lesser of 2 evils again tularetom Aug 2014 #15

Hello Independent Voter..... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #17

Wrong. The poster said s/he wouldn't vote leftstreet Aug 2014 #18

Yes it is..... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #37

No. That would be a 'non voter' leftstreet Aug 2014 #40

If you support a Republican like Rand Paul over ANY Democrat..... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #45

You are smearing the poster above leftstreet Aug 2014 #48

I don't care....if you spend your time on a Democratic Political Forum and don't vote... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #51

You 'don't care' that you're violating TOS leftstreet Aug 2014 #53

No I am accusing them of violating TOS... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #57

Did you alert on the poster? leftstreet Aug 2014 #59

why am I under obligation to do so? VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #61

Does TOS require voting? leftstreet Aug 2014 #68

It REQUIRES electing more Democrats....so yeah I think so.... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #74

You lied leftstreet Aug 2014 #79

No I haven't called anyone that.....I said IF they claim they would vote for Paul over Hillary VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #80

LOL n/t leftstreet Aug 2014 #81

Oooooh, scary, my posts will be discounted accordingly tularetom Aug 2014 #121

Yeah.....I have no interest in talking to Independent voters.....their opinions mean nuts to me.... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #125

Ohh come on Alittleliberal Aug 2014 #134

It is? VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #136

We are at a tipping point. More of the same will no longer work. Autumn Aug 2014 #26

Got a candidate that can beat ANY Republican....got polls to prove it? VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #126

We don't have ANY candidate yet, so no need to prove a damn thing to you. Autumn Aug 2014 #128

All I can say is someone...... Puglover Aug 2014 #142

Puglover! How goes it? Autumn Aug 2014 #153

Of course, I do not want to see him win! This is not either/or. CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2014 #22

Would you rather burn in hell for eternity or have a strawberry ice cream cone? JaydenD Aug 2014 #27

I think the Third Way does. woo me with science Aug 2014 #25

I just want to be sure I understand what you're saying here wyldwolf Aug 2014 #28

Yes, can't you understand the obvious? emulatorloo Aug 2014 #36

It is obvious if you just think a moment. woo me with science Aug 2014 #107

hahahahahaha OMG we are infiltrated by some "brightness" today! VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #38

I imagine the Third Way could live fairly happily with either outcome. Jackpine Radical Aug 2014 #70

Hmm leftstreet Aug 2014 #29

Or perhaps some DU'ers are detached from reality, or are conspiracy theorists, or are emulatorloo Aug 2014 #39

It's always the conservative fringe here that accuses others QC Aug 2014 #41

true enough n/t leftstreet Aug 2014 #46

That's a thought. woo me with science Aug 2014 #67

rand Paul would be the third way dream president Doctor_J Aug 2014 #58

Yup. He would run on the "libertarian" promise of scaling back wars and the police state. woo me with science Aug 2014 #63

I have "hated" the libertarian philosophy for 15 years.. sendero Aug 2014 #135

No. Just no. BlueMTexpat Aug 2014 #34

Exactly...IF they cannot commit to voting for ANY Dem over ANY Republican....they are no VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #42

In my experience, BlueMTexpat Aug 2014 #138

Amen Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2014 #43

Not a Hillary fan, and Rand Paul will destroy the US emulatorloo Aug 2014 #47

No. I hope to collect Social Security one day. Dems to Win Aug 2014 #49

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #50

FRP. eom uppityperson Aug 2014 #54

Another FRP! greatauntoftriplets Aug 2014 #73

I'm concerned about the effect Clinton would have on the other races aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2014 #52

I would never vote for Rand Paul Gothmog Aug 2014 #55

Hell no.... daleanime Aug 2014 #56

Of course not, but sadoldgirl Aug 2014 #60

"Who the #%^* else ya gonna vote for, chumps?!" MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #62

Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #75

"Romney/Ryan would be a Hell unlike anything we've known in the history of our country." MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #91

+1 Marr Aug 2014 #95

+1 woo me with science Aug 2014 #99

Eeyup. hifiguy Aug 2014 #118

No, in a game of good cop versus bad cop, I guess I'll have to choose the good cop Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #65

I used to think that... woo me with science Aug 2014 #88

Seems like a straw man argument./nt DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #76

As well as a very lame call out. n/t QC Aug 2014 #137

Of course not. LWolf Aug 2014 #83

Their silence on a host of issues tells us all we need to know about them. conservaphobe Aug 2014 #87

+1 XRubicon Aug 2014 #93

Who is "they"? Marr Aug 2014 #94

It's an imaginary "they" used against those who want better than Hillary. Autumn Aug 2014 #97

I'm not a Clinton supporter. I will support whomever has the backing of OFA. conservaphobe Aug 2014 #113

I've noticed that same thing, conservaphobe. BlueCaliDem Aug 2014 #112

Right-wing Democrats are what has ALLOWED the GOP to go so far right. Marr Aug 2014 #92

+1 The goal is the corporatism, money into the pockets of the oligarchs. woo me with science Aug 2014 #98

Exactly. hifiguy Aug 2014 #119

A Democratic president is only as "left" as their Party members in Congress. BlueCaliDem Aug 2014 #109

If the president is so ineffectual, what are you worried about? Marr Aug 2014 #129

Never claimed that the president is "ineffectual". That's all you. BlueCaliDem Aug 2014 #130

Who's ranting? Marr Aug 2014 #131

I want to vote for dem. Repuke extreme and DLC republican lite isn't a dem on point Aug 2014 #103

No tazkcmo Aug 2014 #106

There's a school of thought among the delusional left... SidDithers Aug 2014 #114

This ^ ^ ^ Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2014 #132

NO. But I have no love for Wall Street lovin' neocon lite Hillary whatsoever. hifiguy Aug 2014 #115

To those who decide they just can't vote for either one, or Hillary isn't perfect or whatever - calimary Aug 2014 #120

running paul against clinton is the easiest way for RedstDem Aug 2014 #122

no samsingh Aug 2014 #123

I would rather see HRC as President than Rand Paul. ZombieHorde Aug 2014 #127

I'd think about it if I believed Rand would be libertarian on crime and national security in office Hippo_Tron Aug 2014 #133

Booga booga! Le Taz Hot Aug 2014 #139

there are 'progressives' here claiming Rand Paul is more 'progressive' than Hillary... wyldwolf Aug 2014 #140

No, a few progressives Le Taz Hot Aug 2014 #143

So, your contention is that no progressives here have said Paul is more progressive than Hillary? wyldwolf Aug 2014 #144

So, you didn't actually read Le Taz Hot Aug 2014 #145

sure, so let's review our conversation wyldwolf Aug 2014 #147

The key word here is Le Taz Hot Aug 2014 #148

the only key word is the one you used - 'no.' wyldwolf Aug 2014 #149

It's not a question of wanting it, but of activists feeling so defeated yurbud Aug 2014 #146

I hope neither of them are the nominees davidpdx Aug 2014 #150

1981 views and 4 recommendations. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #152