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In reply to the discussion: Explaining White Privilege to a Broke White Person [View all]Dark n Stormy Knight
(10,484 posts)103. It's a bit confusing that you started your response to my post that ended with, "It's complicated,"
by saying, "It's not that simple." Um, yeah. Like I said.
It also makes me unsure sure which of your points you think are antithetical to mine and which are in agreement.
Perhaps, to clarify my thoughts, I'll say that while, yes, Thomas's family would agree with a message decrying police brutality, despite the fact that it statistically disproportionately effects black people, the idea of white privilege still may not resonate strongly with them. And may even piss them off. Especially if, before joining with others to fight police brutality they're told, "First you must admit you're racist." (From DU post another DU post on white privilege, I had in mind.)
But I my point is supported by reply #78 of this thread:
I really started to understand 'white privilege' only when people instead started talking about the bad things that DIDN'T happen to me because of my skin colour, and when I was shown items about practices like redlining, and statistics about housing, income, employment and wealth. McIntosh's list might be useful in teaching some folks about white privilege, but I think it actually gets in the way for others. Lots of people are going to think you're being weird if you start talking about crayons and bandaids as being 'privilege', but everyone can understand that not being harassed by police simply based on the lightness of your skin is pretty obvious. And when you're first teaching people about new concepts, it helps to start with the most obvious and blatant examples that they can grab onto, not more subtle and presumably less consequential ones.
Again, small, things do matter, but we have to understand the failure of disadvantaged whites, particularly ones like Kelly Thomas's family, to grasp the insidious power of white privilege in the midst of their own overwhelming powerlessness.
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Very recent example: the lady who is running for governor in Texas was a single mother and on
jwirr
Aug 2014
#12
Highly signifigant! They do it and they do it well. And they can because they have the money to.
Dark n Stormy Knight
Aug 2014
#86
It shouldn't be a hard sell, if sold along with the concept of class privilege
Hippo_Tron
Aug 2014
#25
It's a bit confusing that you started your response to my post that ended with, "It's complicated,"
Dark n Stormy Knight
Aug 2014
#103
I've experienced white privilege my whole life. True, I've felt the wrath of discrimination..
BlueJazz
Aug 2014
#11
Please don't deflect attention away from the issue at hand. We all agree about the 1% but that's not
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2014
#18
I still am amazed how many white people, regardless of income, dont understand that privilege
BaggersRDumb
Aug 2014
#55
Fuck that and fuck Cornel West who is driven by his personal resentment of Obama
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2014
#107
White privilege is like manmade global warming. It's there, but there are a lot of people who deny
Louisiana1976
Aug 2014
#88
"Black Like Me," by John Howard Griffin, "White Like Me" by Tim Wise of ANYTHING written by Tim Wise
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2014
#17
Perhaps we need to post a disclaimer for what should be obvious, but somehow isn't:
freshwest
Aug 2014
#53
That's right--right-wing whites are much more likely to be racist than others.
Louisiana1976
Aug 2014
#89
Proven by their acts in elected office and media sources. So tired of the righties.
freshwest
Aug 2014
#93
The term is, of course, a generalization, to which there will always be individual exceptions. But
WinkyDink
Aug 2014
#22
There is inherent privilege in being wealthy. There is inherent privilege in being white.
Lex
Aug 2014
#23
Apples and oranges. Privilege based on wealth is not the same as privilege based on race.
Lex
Aug 2014
#36
So, you would be perfectly comfortable starting a conversation about "white privilege"
Nye Bevan
Aug 2014
#39
not really, i know some gay people who are well off but i can see how as someone who is not gay
JI7
Aug 2014
#110
If they were in the same situation and were black, they'd be even worse off n/t
eridani
Aug 2014
#100
The answer is no. We continue to experience these things. I think the list does a pretty good job
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2014
#102
Excellent point. In the context of the subject the word: Privilege = Social Inequality
Tuesday Afternoon
Aug 2014
#34
I think that 'advantage' would be a less loaded term but it's really not the point.
Gormy Cuss
Aug 2014
#62
It's obvious you didn't read the article, as the author is a woman...
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2014
#69
having white privilege is not the same thing as being privileged. nt
La Lioness Priyanka
Aug 2014
#71
not really. even a poor straight person has straight privilege over a gay person. Its similar for
La Lioness Priyanka
Aug 2014
#83
Yes. While those seemingly small things are insidiously powerful,
Dark n Stormy Knight
Aug 2014
#104
Why I think white people think that it denies they suffered/suffer when they hear white privilege
ck4829
Aug 2014
#84
Pretty decent article. All inequality of outcome is a result of inequality of opportunity, in my
Chathamization
Aug 2014
#109