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In reply to the discussion: Is Hillary unelectable? [View all]

AdHocSolver

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16. This! ^^ Trying to inject reality into political discussion on DU is very difficult.
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 01:46 AM
Aug 2014

When commenting on political strategy or discussing real economics, it feels like one is conversing with a wall.

While Republican talking points often range from stupid to plain crazy, they get serious when election time comes around, they get out the vote, and they often win.

Then Democrats blame their loss on the fact that the opposition has more money to spend. That is going to be true for many elections. If all it takes is a lot of money, the one percent is going to win most elections.

The Democrats better come out with a better strategy to get out the vote that doesn't rely on a lot of money, or it won't matter who runs in 2016.

Moreover, Democrats better spend more thought and energy on winning state and local races, or it won't matter who wins the Presidency in 2016.

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Is Hillary unelectable? [View all] gyroscope Aug 2014 OP
No. eom MohRokTah Aug 2014 #1
your opinions are not facts spanone Aug 2014 #2
Yes they are my opinions gyroscope Aug 2014 #4
No, but she's not inevitable, either. n/t winter is coming Aug 2014 #3
/end thread Egnever Aug 2014 #21
According to the numbers, she doesn't turn off progressives Cali_Democrat Aug 2014 #5
LOL DarthDem Aug 2014 #6
No. She is popular and can win nt hack89 Aug 2014 #7
It's more complex than that - for me, anyway. NRaleighLiberal Aug 2014 #8
We have a real election now: Midterms BainsBane Aug 2014 #9
This! ^^ Trying to inject reality into political discussion on DU is very difficult. AdHocSolver Aug 2014 #16
Well said. Egnever Aug 2014 #23
Good point davidpdx Aug 2014 #32
She is electable, but it won't be a cakewalk. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #10
If she's counting on my, or my wife's vote, she is. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #11
Hillary can't get out the vote kcjohn1 Aug 2014 #12
I agree gyroscope Aug 2014 #13
I don't vote for Third Way corporatists and warmongers. woo me with science Aug 2014 #14
If she turns off progressives, why is she so popular in progressive New York? pnwmom Aug 2014 #15
She's done a lot of favors customerserviceguy Aug 2014 #22
That doesn't explain why she's so popular with progressive voters in NYC and state. n/t pnwmom Aug 2014 #24
She ran two campaigns in NY State customerserviceguy Aug 2014 #25
Polls across the country put her popularity close to 80% with Democratic voters. pnwmom Aug 2014 #26
Maybe "she did favors" for all 80% percent of them./NT DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #44
polls kcjohn1 Aug 2014 #27
No. It's shows he's a winner, at least on the field he chooses to play on./NT DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #45
Her popularity will absolutely go down. But there is no one yet who appears even close. n/t pnwmom Aug 2014 #49
Interesting stuff ... NanceGreggs Aug 2014 #17
Was that a question AgingAmerican Aug 2014 #18
Absolutely not. In fact, I think she could very well be our strongest potential candidate for '16. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #19
No customerserviceguy Aug 2014 #20
What's NOT to like: Queen Blue Dog, Third Way acolyte, "New" DEM, Ms. Triangulation, "dead broke," blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #28
Not sure. Obama lending her his campaign team would be a plus eridani Aug 2014 #29
hmmm, so you speak for all progressives still_one Aug 2014 #30
not by those on DU who feel like you do, but for most of the Democrats and populous, yes still_one Aug 2014 #31
compared to what? quaker bill Aug 2014 #33
Hillary Clinton is very electable, imo. Laelth Aug 2014 #34
I really don't understand why she would turn off republicans, sorry I can't call them conservatives! B Calm Aug 2014 #35
Ice Queen is a ridiculous thing to call her. JaydenD Aug 2014 #36
+1 Totally agree. n/t FSogol Aug 2014 #39
I don't know about that. earthside Aug 2014 #57
No Gothmog Aug 2014 #37
Why don't we have a primary or something and see what the party thinks? FSogol Aug 2014 #38
even I would not say she was DonCoquixote Aug 2014 #40
Aw man, not another day of this f'ing Rand Paul crap. FSogol Aug 2014 #41
" Ice Queen" sufrommich Aug 2014 #42
In the case of Hillary gyroscope Aug 2014 #48
Obama barely beat her in 2008 and he proved to be quite electable. She is not unbeatable but pampango Aug 2014 #43
"Ice Queen" sounds kind of sexist to me. /NT DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #46
Clinton is inevitable. Orsino Aug 2014 #47
Iowa is not Clinton friendly. New Hampshire is Sanders' back yard. ieoeja Aug 2014 #50
Of course not! Rex Aug 2014 #51
Hillary isn't running in November. Who cares. nt tridim Aug 2014 #52
Seriously all this BS talk...and the Rand posts...garbage in garbage out. Rex Aug 2014 #53
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #54
Have you ever bothered looking for a poll about 2016? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #55
She might be. earthside Aug 2014 #56
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