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In reply to the discussion: The NSA Search Engine is a Keyhole to You [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)16. I.B.M. rings a bell that tolls.
The company and its Hollerith machines enabled the fascists to tabulate census data and find out "who was who?" and "who did what?"and "who lives where?"

The IBM Hollerith machines and the punch cards they used helped the NAZI government process information, including religious information. Also tabulated were "how many" of each race and at "what address" they resided also were recorded.
IBM & "Death's Calculator"
by Edwin Black
EXCERPT...
When the Reich needed to mount a systematic campaign of Jewish economic disenfranchisement and later began the massive movement of European Jews out of their homes and into ghettos, once again, the task was so prodigious it called for a computer. But in 1933, no computer existed. When the Final Solution sought to efficiently transport Jews out of European ghettos along railroad lines and into death camps, with timing so precise the victims were able to walk right out of the boxcar and into a waiting gas chamber, the coordination was so complex a task, this too called for a computer. But in 1933, no computer existed.
However, another invention did exist: the IBM punch card and card sorting system-a precursor to the computer. IBM, primarily through its German subsidiary, made Hitler's program of Jewish destruction a technologic mission the company pursued with chilling success. IBM Germany, using its own staff and equipment, designed, executed, and supplied the indispensable technologic assistance Hitler's Third Reich needed to accomplish what had never been done before-the automation of human destruction. More than 2,000 such multi-machine sets were dispatched throughout Germany, and thousands more throughout German-dominated Europe. Card sorting operations were established in every major concentration camp. People were moved from place to place, systematically worked to death, and their remains cataloged with icy automation.
SNIP...
I was haunted by a question whose answer has long eluded historians. The Germans always had the lists of Jewish names. Suddenly, a squadron of grim-faced SS would burst into a city square and post a notice demanding those listed assemble the next day at the train station for deportation to the East. But how did the Nazis get the lists? For decades, no one has known. Few have asked.
The answer: IBM Germany's census operations and similar advanced people counting and registration technologies. IBM was founded in 1898 by German inventor Herman Hollerith as a census tabulating company. Census was its business. But when IBM Germany formed its philosophical and technologic alliance with Nazi Germany, census and registration took on a new mission. IBM Germany invented the racial census-listing not just religious affiliation, but bloodline going back generations. This was the Nazi data lust. Not just to count the Jews but to identify them.
CONTINUED...
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/gypibm.html
I wonder what they're capable of today, knowing what we've learned via Snowden and other whistleblowers about the vast US government spy network pointing at the American people.
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I figure interested parties has had the capability to know anything they want for many decades.
gordianot
Aug 2014
#1
True. The NAZIs the CIA brought in to fight the Commies were owned by the Commies.
Octafish
Aug 2014
#2
Important to add what Sen. Frank Church (D-Idaho) said in 1975 re NSA Surveillance
Octafish
Aug 2014
#3
John Negroponte was one beneficiary of the ability to GOOGLE your "Chat Handle"
Octafish
Aug 2014
#18
''When the president does it, it's not illegal.'' -- Richard Milhous Nixon, Crook
Octafish
Aug 2014
#22