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MADem

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151. I don't think you should be sorry!!!

Wed Aug 27, 2014, 08:38 PM

Aug 2014

The incivility came before that HIDE, and the post that was hidden was a response to that incivility.

I think when someone is insulted, a response in kind can be seen as justified. I don't understand why the post that precipitated that HIDE wasn't hidden as well.

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And yet another DU treasure gone :( [View all] ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 OP

What happened? MohRokTah Aug 2014 #1

This octoberlib Aug 2014 #2

what made him decide to leave? CTyankee Aug 2014 #3

was going to post a link to an OP he posted last night explaining in detail but octoberlib Aug 2014 #4

well, I get it...sometimes you think it's not worth the effort to keep beating a dead horse... CTyankee Aug 2014 #13

Much like the reason Fox News survives, they harp on negatives and impeding RKP5637 Aug 2014 #106

I think it was what happened... ReRe Aug 2014 #113

Interesting. The contrast between his thoughtful post in this thread and so many of the CTyankee Aug 2014 #137

+100 nt Mojorabbit Aug 2014 #159

I didn't know him well but I enjoyed his posts Warpy Aug 2014 #161

Almost as if by design -- making the "Underground" another 3rd Way/Center-right mouthpiece villager Aug 2014 #5

yes, we've been plotting this from our secret OVERground headquarters wyldwolf Aug 2014 #6

...each of them falling in line posting tiresome, yet endless, snark.... villager Aug 2014 #7

We get text alerts when it's our turn to post the snark wyldwolf Aug 2014 #8

...worry their snark like a little bone, which they think is both a) conversational villager Aug 2014 #9

psst! It's designed to get the response it's getting right now! wyldwolf Aug 2014 #10

...many of their posts, though, are marvels of total projection villager Aug 2014 #11

you're just not getting it wyldwolf Aug 2014 #14

And they're sooo angry Union Scribe Aug 2014 #71

Man, I know what you mean. You'd think if they were content in their ideals, they'd be less furious villager Aug 2014 #77

Yep... These Are The People That Think Their Cruelty Is Hilarious... WillyT Aug 2014 #15

Exactly, WillyT. They're in love with "the taunt," not discussion villager Aug 2014 #19

it's in response to the playground mentality people like you exhibit wyldwolf Aug 2014 #26

Thanks For Proving My Point... Project Much ??? WillyT Aug 2014 #39

the point was proven with post #5, of which you vehemently agreed with. wyldwolf Aug 2014 #42

Playground Mentality? HangOnKids Aug 2014 #53

Playground mentality? wyldwolf Aug 2014 #57

Sorry Wolfie You Could Never Hang Out Or "Our" As You Posted With Me HangOnKids Aug 2014 #62

Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #64

Well, someone took a hike... SidDithers Aug 2014 #163

Yet somehow the person who called West a racial slur is still here. Union Scribe Aug 2014 #164

Happy now? Kingofalldems Aug 2014 #165

Yup... SidDithers Aug 2014 #166

No I'm not happy at all. Kingofalldems Aug 2014 #167

You shouldn't be sad for too long... SidDithers Aug 2014 #169

You are just rude. morningfog Aug 2014 #98

We are all feline snooper2 Aug 2014 #51

I don't know why I thought of her but maybe it's because you sound like you may know. A Simple Game Aug 2014 #20

she was promoted up the policy department wyldwolf Aug 2014 #45

Because nothing says, "I care" like demeaning Damansarajaya Aug 2014 #86

You seem to have a handle on that "snark" stuff--the only members of the Democratic Party MADem Aug 2014 #16

"...you seem to be able to tolerate are those who think exactly like you..." villager Aug 2014 #21

Glad you're starting to see what I mean--you are, indeed, a marvel. MADem Aug 2014 #28

Thanks for bearing out my theses in spades, MADem! villager Aug 2014 #30

Yes, posts like this do so much to bring Democrats together.... MADem Aug 2014 #38

Wow -- flattered that you think I'm worth searching out! So -- let's actually disuss, then. villager Aug 2014 #50

I didn't have to look very hard. You're on this topic a lot. You're not the only one who engages MADem Aug 2014 #70

Wow! I am practically a poster on your bedroom wall! (So to speak!) villager Aug 2014 #74

Well, not sure what that comment was about. My links were right on point, not OOC. MADem Aug 2014 #83

Then let's have a good debate! Come on! villager Aug 2014 #90

I certainly do not want to appear to be rude, but based on your history of posts on this board, MADem Aug 2014 #95

So -- you refuse to have the kind of discussion you say you long for? villager Aug 2014 #97

Let's not affect confusion, now. Your position is no secret. MADem Aug 2014 #107

You're already mellowing -- we've just broached such a discussion below! villager Aug 2014 #116

Well said Number23 Aug 2014 #148

I don't think you should be sorry!!! MADem Aug 2014 #151

Right, because BOGgers NEVER have snark directed at them... stevenleser Aug 2014 #110

Yes we know about the offsite meeting place for the bullies of DU. nm rhett o rick Aug 2014 #156

It's divisive posts like yours that are a big part of the problem. The constant 3rd Way snark gets MADem Aug 2014 #12

From a 2002 DU 'about' page wyldwolf Aug 2014 #17

Even Democrats who don't like Hillary and don't want to vote for her are welcome here Autumn Aug 2014 #27

Even Dems who don't hang the progressive savior of the week's poster on the walls to kiss goodnight wyldwolf Aug 2014 #29

No one has done that except for maybe in your mind. Autumn Aug 2014 #32

Nothing wrong with disliking a candidate, but insulting her supporters is where the line should be MADem Aug 2014 #31

You know that works both ways. Her supporters have no problem with insulting other posters. Autumn Aug 2014 #37

I haven't seen it. In fact, I think most people like the alternative candidates as well. MADem Aug 2014 #41

You and I will disagree on that because some of us have an entirely different perception Autumn Aug 2014 #46

And that is the point--some of us have an entirely different perception and experience. MADem Aug 2014 #52

Yes people get sick of it, on both sides. n/t Autumn Aug 2014 #56

From you I have no doubt, but there are others who have quite boldly come out and said they will still_one Aug 2014 #72

Yeah I have seen that but I just figure that it's just disgust and frustration Autumn Aug 2014 #139

I hear you. I do not think those that say they will never vote for Hillary, will vote republican still_one Aug 2014 #144

Then there is the first line of the mission statement. A Simple Game Aug 2014 #33

then there is the insinuation you're making about the word 'liberal.' wyldwolf Aug 2014 #40

I am making insinuations about the word liberal? How does that work? A Simple Game Aug 2014 #143

You might want to have a look-see at what constitutes "politically liberal" in, say, Mississippi. MADem Aug 2014 #44

The word liberal has a meaning, perhaps you could ask the owners of the site A Simple Game Aug 2014 #145

Perhaps you might want to apply CONTEXT to this conversation, and understand that MADem Aug 2014 #146

Let's see go with a Mississippi Republicans definition of liberal or A Simple Game Aug 2014 #150

Funny, the cherrypicking, ain't it? Like ignoring the "Undergound" after "Democratic" villager Aug 2014 #54

ah, see, you just showed you complete lack of knowledge on what the 'underground' means here wyldwolf Aug 2014 #66

"Had nada to do with ideology..." villager Aug 2014 #68

certainly not for the founders of the site wyldwolf Aug 2014 #69

Democrats were "UNDERGROUND" after the (s)election of Bush. MADem Aug 2014 #85

Hopefully standing for policies different than Bush's? villager Aug 2014 #87

You can read the manifesto thoughtfully posted here as easily as I can. nt MADem Aug 2014 #88

Not really an answer, of course, but o.k. villager Aug 2014 #91

Well, it IS an answer, because if you don't go back to the beginning of DU, back to those MADem Aug 2014 #94

no, it's your interpretation. But it is a big tent! villager Aug 2014 #99

Huh? Don't move those goalposts, now.... MADem Aug 2014 #101

Well, I agree -- no one should be personally insulted villager Aug 2014 #103

As I have said, what constitutes "liberal" in Mississippi is not what constitutes "liberal" in MADem Aug 2014 #111

Well, okay, those are interesting points. villager Aug 2014 #115

And in Mississippi, I imagine that the successful Democratic candidate will find a way to MADem Aug 2014 #121

But we did control Congress, and we squandered the moment villager Aug 2014 #125

We never "controlled" Congress. We had a barebones majority, not a mandate. MADem Aug 2014 #126

Well, we never "control" it like the other side does, even when they're in the minority villager Aug 2014 #128

They "control" it by gridlocking. They are the party of NO. MADem Aug 2014 #129

That would be the ideal. And it would certainly lead to clarity about what the Dems finally, villager Aug 2014 #130

I was here in early 2001 and you are correct. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2014 #100

I was here on the 2nd day of operation, and I was THRILLED to find the joint! MADem Aug 2014 #104

LOL, it was months before I posted. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2014 #105

Yeah--those work computers were well-monitored where I was at, too!! nt MADem Aug 2014 #114

"... we have no affiliation with the Democratic Party"... OilemFirchen Aug 2014 #122

You may be right, but you would have to take it up with whoever A Simple Game Aug 2014 #142

+1 nt MADem Aug 2014 #152

I could not have said it better myself! hamsterjill Aug 2014 #35

Well said. nt Bobbie Jo Aug 2014 #47

Funny how ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #63

Link to the most extreme right wing post you have seen.... Logical Aug 2014 #34

Yes, what made it interesting were those who CARED about ISSUES. Now it's hard sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #80

Which is odd, Sabrina, since it's those focused almost exclusively on "electability" villager Aug 2014 #123

Exactly right. JEB Aug 2014 #172

You're far from alone in those views. I don't know what exactly they think they will accomplish sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #174

Whomever it might be - cwydro Aug 2014 #18

Sadly your post shows the empathy that most likely drives off good people. rhett o rick Aug 2014 #155

Sometimes mistakes happen for a reason and this was a good one. cbayer Aug 2014 #22

*sigh* nolabear Aug 2014 #23

Very sad. polly7 Aug 2014 #24

I've been a member here since 2005, lurked for 2 years before that, and seen a lot of GBCW posts riderinthestorm Aug 2014 #25

Exactly, before Ferguson Bigtree posted OP's constantly expressing outrage bla bla bla KittyWampus Aug 2014 #36

I think that bigtree was bothered that a prominent AA was slyly called a "coon" by another DUer Autumn Aug 2014 #43

Hi Autumn, I missed this. Add it to the reasons I cited below for bigtree's departure, which ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #55

... leftstreet Aug 2014 #60

One stupid post out of tens of thousands per week sends a DU'er out the door? KittyWampus Aug 2014 #73

Calling Obama a "coon" would have been deleted. (Different history with that word.) deurbano Aug 2014 #117

DU has changed significantly. What would before get hidden, not only languages like your example, still_one Aug 2014 #81

I completely missed that post ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #93

I don't care that it was aimed at Mr West, it could have been aimed at Michael Steele Autumn Aug 2014 #135

Absolutely ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #138

Had I ever used a term like that my 98 pound southern raised Mama would Autumn Aug 2014 #140

Good points, but not why bigtree left. ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #49

It's true -- assholery sells well here, alas. villager Aug 2014 #58

Vitriol thrives in GD same as it ever has. Always. riderinthestorm Aug 2014 #61

Well, Bigtree certainly added to the vitriol HIMSELF. Before Ferguson he contributed to that vitriol KittyWampus Aug 2014 #75

That he did. I was the target of some of that. But we all have our moments, including you. ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #82

And before that bigtree was a stong supporter of Obama. Autumn Aug 2014 #136

That's not DU, it's simple human behavior Hippo_Tron Aug 2014 #147

Everyone whe goes out with the cwydro Aug 2014 #48

Oh, cut it out. How mean and judgemental. People get frustrated and tired of polly7 Aug 2014 #59

+1 BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #96

This message was self-deleted by its author conservaphobe Aug 2014 #65

Which has absolutely nothing to do with why he decided to leave. nt. polly7 Aug 2014 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author conservaphobe Aug 2014 #76

Certainly, 'some' do that. This isn't the case here. nt. polly7 Aug 2014 #79

Much as if churlish and peevish implication are made about the reasons a poster leaves... LanternWaste Aug 2014 #109

This message was self-deleted by its author conservaphobe Aug 2014 #118

Obviously, you don't give a *. polly7 Aug 2014 #119

Alright. conservaphobe Aug 2014 #120

Yeah, I don't think it's ever necessary to mock someone's disappointment, disillusionment, polly7 Aug 2014 #127

Almost as predicable as the petulant and churlish prophecies a poster will return. LanternWaste Aug 2014 #108

Sad but understandable, and I hope he returns soon. hifiguy Aug 2014 #78

+1000 polly7 Aug 2014 #84

Thank you, polly. hifiguy Aug 2014 #89

I'm glad for that. I knew you were missed by many. polly7 Aug 2014 #92

Did anyone save the deleted post? I see praise on the thread, but didn't see the OP. TIA. freshwest Aug 2014 #102

As of right now, the cached version in Google search shows the full post... Princess Turandot Aug 2014 #124

Thanks! I see how I can do that now. DU-only searches always don't work. freshwest Aug 2014 #141

I certainly hope he will return... and soon. deurbano Aug 2014 #112

I don't blame him for leaving enigmatic Aug 2014 #131

I'm thinking of finding other things to do with my time. There are still some gems here, but... ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #132

I left for 3 years enigmatic Aug 2014 #133

I agree. And I join with you in suggesting bigtree start a blog so that he can continue to ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #134

Hi stranger! salin Aug 2014 #160

He'll be missed malaise Aug 2014 #149

It's sad that bigtree's leaving. His Mike Brown posts were good ones. Louisiana1976 Aug 2014 #153

and goodbye to Redqueen also Liberal_in_LA Aug 2014 #154

And goodbye to Nadin also. The bullies are winning. rhett o rick Aug 2014 #157

Well, I think it's stupid cwydro Aug 2014 #162

They win because they are dedicated, while others are interested in political discussions rhett o rick Aug 2014 #171

Wait. Nadin left? When? nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #170

She hasn't come back from yet another forced vacation... SidDithers Aug 2014 #173

an open plea to the one that run this place DonCoquixote Aug 2014 #158

Thank you, that is very well said. greatlaurel Aug 2014 #175

I suspect that at some time, they will come back. Rex Aug 2014 #168

Always loved Bigtree's posts abelenkpe Aug 2014 #176