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Earth_First

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162. I'm in the same boat...

Thu Aug 28, 2014, 03:53 AM

Aug 2014

If I'm forced to sit in a upright position for extended periods of time, I get extreme neck and shoulder pain.

In a slightly reclined position, it helps; but not comfortable in the least.

I'm with you...

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"Knee Defender" leads to passenger fight and diverted plane [View all] KurtNYC Aug 2014 OP

Sounds like a match made in heaven! nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #1

Speaking of a "match", my favorite is still these twins... KurtNYC Aug 2014 #2

Their mother must be so proud! nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #3

I just hope her womb had four arm rests! KurtNYC Aug 2014 #4

Do passengers have any legal recourse? MindPilot Aug 2014 #5

I wouldn't see why not jberryhill Aug 2014 #11

I'd think you wouldn't have much recourse against the airline, but might against the assholes. hughee99 Aug 2014 #30

Airlines specifically do not guarantee their arrival times. SheilaT Aug 2014 #118

I hate it when the person in front of me reclines MineralMan Aug 2014 #6

The guy in the seat in front of mine madamesilverspurs Aug 2014 #9

I had that happen to me. So I switched seats with my then toddler, and put her shoes back on. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #17

Good one! ecstatic Aug 2014 #40

Your creativity is appreciated discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2014 #89

The guy was a piece of shit and a bully ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2014 #32

It's amazing how often Man from Pickens Aug 2014 #147

should have kicked it MattBaggins Aug 2014 #155

Agreed Action_Patrol Aug 2014 #10

Not only that, but the small amount they do recline Warpy Aug 2014 #13

Some of are only trying to avoid triggering additional chronic pain. Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #57

You'd have much better luck with ice Warpy Aug 2014 #69

Whether ice or pain works depends on the source of the pain. Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #88

Being able to shift angles every hour really does make a difference for back pain. mainer Aug 2014 #90

For me it is not being in one position too long - Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #92

I'll usually block a recline with my knees sharp_stick Aug 2014 #20

Same here. i snooze when I fly. kcass1954 Aug 2014 #22

For me it is a big deal. Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #55

I'm sorry to hear that. I assume that you make certain MineralMan Aug 2014 #94

I have learned which seats don't recline, so I avoid them Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #96

Many of the budget-priced airlines have MineralMan Aug 2014 #98

Frontier had reclining seats the last time I flew it - Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #99

I'm in the same boat... Earth_First Aug 2014 #162

I only recline if the seat behind me is empty Skittles Aug 2014 #70

I think airlines ought to give people enough room so they CAN recline their seats. MADem Aug 2014 #101

Yes, well... MineralMan Aug 2014 #105

When I fly it's longer than four hours. MADem Aug 2014 #121

Really? I could take a train to California from Minnesota, MineralMan Aug 2014 #125

Great for you! MADem Aug 2014 #128

Yup, it works for me. I'm speaking for nobody else. MineralMan Aug 2014 #135

It's been a few years since I flew on Sun Country. Jenoch Aug 2014 #146

Not as long as people buy the cheapest ticket jberryhill Aug 2014 #109

I think there's a happy middle available. MADem Aug 2014 #116

Do you? You should suggest that to the airline you own. MineralMan Aug 2014 #158

You having a bad day, or something? MADem Aug 2014 #159

me too. i hate their head in my lap Liberal_in_LA Aug 2014 #143

The make-up sex was probably great though n/t. taught_me_patience Aug 2014 #7

Interfering with proper operation of aircraft equipment jberryhill Aug 2014 #8

Gonna guess the dude will be in trouble. Aren't you supposed to obey the flight attendants? boomer55 Aug 2014 #12

Correct jberryhill Aug 2014 #25

Dumb... Blue_Tires Aug 2014 #14

In an article I read earlier tammywammy Aug 2014 #15

Which makes it even worse Blue_Tires Aug 2014 #16

If you recline your seat, you are a bag of dicks AngryAmish Aug 2014 #24

I used to fly that cheapo airline from JFK to LAX KurtNYC Aug 2014 #31

Sorry, I disagree philosslayer Aug 2014 #48

I'm with you--I fly a lot, too, and I sleep on the plane. nt MADem Aug 2014 #102

Or have a back condition that cannot tolerate the seat angle Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #59

I hate when people recline, but guess what... joeybee12 Aug 2014 #18

I don't know why it's so hard to just ask first if you want to recline. alarimer Aug 2014 #19

"What if the person behind is working on a laptop?" jberryhill Aug 2014 #27

I've tried before and it's all but impossible on that tray table at least. alarimer Aug 2014 #42

Meh jberryhill Aug 2014 #43

I'm not getting this reclining thing either. My husband is 6'4" and he's never had an issue Luminous Animal Aug 2014 #72

It's the puddle jumper planes that are the problem. NutmegYankee Aug 2014 #78

Agreed. I don't understand the anger. mainer Aug 2014 #93

What YOU said!!! MADem Aug 2014 #106

Kudos to your last paragraph! COLGATE4 Aug 2014 #130

Thank goodness ecigs make it bearable jberryhill Aug 2014 #139

It's a LAPtop--use the lap instead! MADem Aug 2014 #103

deleted redqueen Aug 2014 #28

Here's my solution.... philosslayer Aug 2014 #50

you can't recline until 10,000 feet jberryhill Aug 2014 #62

You're not supposed to philosslayer Aug 2014 #85

I support her! flamingdem Aug 2014 #21

United Airlines has banned the use of the Knee Defender. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #23

"A flight attendant asked him to remove the device and he refused" jberryhill Aug 2014 #26

Yeah, she should have just let the flight attendant handle it. TDale313 Aug 2014 #33

Some people don't get that FA's are part of the crew jberryhill Aug 2014 #34

It only reclines an inch or two, why are people so hostile about it? redqueen Aug 2014 #29

Actually� regnaD kciN Aug 2014 #35

Which is why I travel with an iPad Generic Brad Aug 2014 #46

It's only an inch or two: why are people so intent on reclining? Recursion Aug 2014 #74

If you have a sketchy back, it helps. Rather than demonize the person using the seat as it MADem Aug 2014 #104

He should have removed the Knee Defenders and then jammed his knees into the back of her chair DesMoinesDem Aug 2014 #36

Been doing it myself for years now and to works every time! Exposethefrauds Aug 2014 #37

I had someone jam their knees into the back of my seat once. Then they kelly1mm Aug 2014 #44

You really keep your knees jammed to the back of the seat for the whole flight? philosslayer Aug 2014 #49

With long legs it is not uncomfortable at all why should I have my flight ruined becuse of an Exposethefrauds Aug 2014 #81

And here I thought Knee Defender was arrow protection for adventurers. NuclearDem Aug 2014 #38

They're both jerks ecstatic Aug 2014 #39

Who the F bothered to invent that POS? KamaAina Aug 2014 #41

Someone over 6'2" who is tired of having their knees squeezed... Algernon Moncrieff Aug 2014 #54

I'm 6' 3 1/2" KamaAina Aug 2014 #68

Delta, Southwest, and American - principally Algernon Moncrieff Aug 2014 #83

...and there's your problem brooklynite Aug 2014 #108

I fly for busines Algernon Moncrieff Aug 2014 #112

Someone who probably doesn't want their laptop damaged. Initech Aug 2014 #56

Are you the guy banging on the laptop behind me? jberryhill Aug 2014 #63

people are assholes, aren't they? they don't give a fuck who they're annoying Skittles Aug 2014 #71

Remind me not to sit behind you on an airplane. Initech Aug 2014 #122

Some of us don't like to inconvenience others Recursion Aug 2014 #75

UNAPOLOGETIC SEAT-RECLINER!!!!!! Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #80

It all started when they banned smoking jberryhill Aug 2014 #107

Yeah, cigarettes dipped in fentanyl. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #140

Except for the people having asthma attacks Ilsa Aug 2014 #152

Now that airline service... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2014 #110

"paid in-flight entertainment" jberryhill Aug 2014 #113

"paid in-flight entertainment" discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2014 #115

My inflight entertainment is a book. SheilaT Aug 2014 #119

i usually bring a small knitting project shanti Aug 2014 #124

If you use public transportation a lot you often deal with much worse situations Chathamization Aug 2014 #114

Yeah, exactly. If you dont want people to recline, dont let ANY seats do it. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #141

The "knee defender" is a violation of the contract that the woman had with United Wella Aug 2014 #45

What makes you think individual planes have "security" on board? ManiacJoe Aug 2014 #47

If they don't they should. It is well known that air marshals fly on board Wella Aug 2014 #51

The percentage of flights covered is in the single digits. ManiacJoe Aug 2014 #148

What about the rights of the guy behind? NutmegYankee Aug 2014 #76

I just flew United MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #52

They just haven't realized they can charge passengers $25 for use of a knee-defender Algernon Moncrieff Aug 2014 #53

If you wish to recline, swipe your credit card... Phentex Aug 2014 #100

Wow.. how legal are they? to stop someone from reclinging in front? smh Cha Aug 2014 #58

illegal jberryhill Aug 2014 #64

I would think so.. and yet they're selling them. oh boy. Cha Aug 2014 #65

to be clear jberryhill Aug 2014 #66

Right. :) Thanks Cha Aug 2014 #67

The FAA does not ban the device. NutmegYankee Aug 2014 #77

Its use aboard aircraft in US jurisdiction is jberryhill Aug 2014 #84

*ahem* NutmegYankee Aug 2014 #149

Now I know I have a dirty mind dsc Aug 2014 #60

The real villain A Little Weird Aug 2014 #61

If you recline your seat on an airplane you are a horrible person Recursion Aug 2014 #73

yes Liberal_in_LA Aug 2014 #144

I guess I'm a "horrible" person then Art_from_Ark Aug 2014 #160

Holy shit. You think porn, peta, circumcision, olive garden or pit bulls are bad? Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #79

Did you hear about the circumcised pit bull who reclined his seat while reading porn and eating his Coventina Aug 2014 #126

I had no idea it was one of those subjects KurtNYC Aug 2014 #131

Yup. I've seen this flame-war before.... Coventina Aug 2014 #132

Wait until it's about children flying... tammywammy Aug 2014 #136

HEh heh Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #142

I've flown thousands of miles in the last decade... trumad Aug 2014 #82

^^^ Exactly discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2014 #87

so you think it's okay to type on the tray table? jberryhill Aug 2014 #95

Oh fuck that's funny.... trumad Aug 2014 #133

You'd think some people did, yeah jberryhill Aug 2014 #137

I don't usually recline either. tammywammy Aug 2014 #129

To use the seat in the manner for which it was designed is a "douche move"? cleanhippie Aug 2014 #145

yep... trumad Aug 2014 #150

I think you are completely wrong. cleanhippie Aug 2014 #154

a million miles. trumad Aug 2014 #156

Am I supposed to be impressed? cleanhippie Aug 2014 #157

My personal opinion discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2014 #86

I haven't flown since the 90's IDemo Aug 2014 #91

I go through periods where I fly a fair amount and my solution is to ask the person in back of me stevenleser Aug 2014 #97

You're a thoughtful person discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2014 #111

Airline flights might think about offering Lorazapam Cocktails before take-off. Baitball Blogger Aug 2014 #117

It's also worth knowing that if you can plan SheilaT Aug 2014 #120

I think air travel should be banned. Coventina Aug 2014 #123

I think for many air travelers, a plane is the only form of mass transit they use. KurtNYC Aug 2014 #134

Oh, those annoying surviving passengers who bleed on you jberryhill Aug 2014 #138

Those Knee Defenders are great. Iron Man Aug 2014 #127

What happens when an unstoppable jerk meets an unmoveable prick? Marr Aug 2014 #151

You have bit into the crux of the biscuit there, socrates Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #161

What's the point of having recliners if they don't get used? arcane1 Aug 2014 #153

I've never been on a plane. Terra Firma. nilesobek Aug 2014 #163

Knee Defender LloydS of New London Aug 2014 #164