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Showing Original Post only (View all)What misogyny? [View all]
People sometimes ask what misogyny exists online. Of course there are extreme examples, rape threats, stalking, death threats, but it can also be more pervasive. The best-known definition of misogyny is hatred of women, but it can also refer to a pervasive climate of sexism.
Macquarie Dictionary added "entrenched prejudice of women" to augment the established "hatred of women," according to the BBC. The expanded definition will appear in the next edition, the Australian reported.
Macquarie Editor Sue Butler said (Australian Prime Minister Julia) Gillard's remarks remarks highlight how the term has evolved from a pathological loathing of the gender. "We decided that we had the basic definition, hatred of women, but that's not how misogyny has been used for about the last 20, 30 years, particularly in feminist language," she told ABC Radio. "Sexist does seem to be moving towards this description of surface features and misogynist applies to the underlying attitude."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/18/julia-gillard-misogyny-definition_n_1979009.html
Macquarie Editor Sue Butler said (Australian Prime Minister Julia) Gillard's remarks remarks highlight how the term has evolved from a pathological loathing of the gender. "We decided that we had the basic definition, hatred of women, but that's not how misogyny has been used for about the last 20, 30 years, particularly in feminist language," she told ABC Radio. "Sexist does seem to be moving towards this description of surface features and misogynist applies to the underlying attitude."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/18/julia-gillard-misogyny-definition_n_1979009.html
Misogyny can be extreme and intensive or chronic and pervasive. Among the positions some feminists identify with sexism and misogyny are the following:
Insisting the SCOTUS Hobby Lobby decision isn't a big deal
Insisting men should have the right to compel a woman to abort a fetus
Insisting a man's having to pay child support equates with the state's efforts to prohibit abortion
Insisting men are more oppressed than women
Adopting the GOP idea of forcible rape vs. other rape and insisting the later (usually child rape) is less serious.
Insisting that large numbers of women invent false rape charges
Insisting rapists should not be punished with jail time
Frequently taking the side of accused rapists over their victims
Insisting women's issues and feminism aren't important and don't constitute real politics
Insisting women who object to rape porn or prostitution are uptight right-wingers
Calling feminists prudes and Puritans
the sex-negative label
Calling women c...t and b....s
A whole slew of derogatory or sexualized comments about women's bodies
Portraying a view of women that makes it clear someone sees their only purpose as to provide them sex
anti-choice positions
opposing ACA's covering of women's reproductive care
blaming women for their own sexual assaults
arguing that violence against women isn't important
arguing that rape isn't a societal problem
Insisting a misogynistic mass murderer had real concerns about how bad off men have it today
denying sexism and misogyny
arguing that women in the US should be content with what they have
Citing a study held out by an MRA big-wig that claims women say no when they really mean yes
Insisting consent is "elastic"
Insisting that consent is assumed.
Insisting there is no such thing as male privilege
Men telling women they aren't real feminists because they disagree with them on an issue like porn or prostitution.
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it is really depressing that we keep having to explain this over and over and. . .
niyad
Aug 2014
#1
not like the whole of the net has not exploded on this issue. women demanding more....
seabeyond
Aug 2014
#88
If they don't believe in male privilege than what is the point to their feminism?
el_bryanto
Aug 2014
#8
Go check your replies from yesterday. The internet wants to make you an offer you can't refuse. nt
LeftyMom
Aug 2014
#22
Your post is probably one of the most misogynistic things I've read here...
shaayecanaan
Sep 2014
#150
OK so children's lives were made horrible by child labor laws because they couldn't work anymore
gollygee
Sep 2014
#160
OK so you're talking about American child labor laws being bad because children can't work
gollygee
Sep 2014
#162
I'd suggest listening to this episode of Dan Savage's show where he talks to sex workers...
Hippo_Tron
Sep 2014
#163
averagejoe, honestly, you gave us another example how you do not get womens issues.
seabeyond
Aug 2014
#81
if you feel the need, privilege, entitlement degrading women thru sexuality, then no, you do not
seabeyond
Aug 2014
#104
They are personal experiences that many women have. It's not just one woman or one black person
boston bean
Aug 2014
#117
As with other topics, you seem to come at this solely through your own narrow prism.
nomorenomore08
Aug 2014
#145
I didn't take it badly because I have a sense of your broader posting history
BainsBane
Aug 2014
#46
Presumers of male privilege & power maximize their political/class power, minimize women's power.
ancianita
Aug 2014
#15
Is your intent to shame people out of those views or take the teeth out of the term "misogyny"?
lumberjack_jeff
Aug 2014
#16
was it andrea dworkin who insisted that anti-feminists were in fact misogynists?
redruddyred
Aug 2014
#24
Then there's slut shaming and acting like women are not as smart as men....
Spitfire of ATJ
Aug 2014
#31
Julia Gillard's speech was one of the most awesome speech's I've ever seen in Parliament...
Violet_Crumble
Aug 2014
#67
It's interesting you say "that's not what she said" and then hit right on the examples.
stevenleser
Aug 2014
#75
I read it thoroughly and found those parts troubling from several standpoints.
stevenleser
Aug 2014
#97
Women who discuss the effects of pornography, prostitution and the sex trade upon women
Rex
Aug 2014
#107
I don't identify as anything, and I didn't endorse yr list. I disagreed with the last bit...
Violet_Crumble
Aug 2014
#129
it is factually stupid, also. seeing women are approaching at least 50% in usership,
seabeyond
Aug 2014
#93
is the depiction of something like rape porn, that is ALWAYS non consensual in real life
boston bean
Aug 2014
#108
i understand that we must wrap it all up in a "pretty woman" little bow to make it easily
seabeyond
Aug 2014
#109
a person who is or claims to be easily shocked by matters relating to sex or nudity.
seabeyond
Aug 2014
#112
The Internet has so much open, blatant misogyny that it can be overwhelming to process it all..
YoungDemCA
Aug 2014
#113
didnt you state a child had the right, should be given the right to make the choice of prostitution
seabeyond
Aug 2014
#139