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Behind the Aegis

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70. Anti-Semitism is still anti-Semitism.

Fri Aug 29, 2014, 03:15 AM

Aug 2014

"Is it any wonder that some people blame "the Jews" rather than Israel?"

Does it make it any less anti-Semitic? NO.

"Especially when this conflation of "Jews" and "Israel" is encouraged by the Israeli state and accepted by many Jews? (You can't have it both ways, by the way. Either Israel = "the Jews" or it doesn't. If it's the latter then it's perfectly coherent to condemn anti-Semitism while criticising Israel.) "

Seems to work when comments like the above are made. The only time people seem to squeal is when a Jew is making the comparison. Funny, that.

Calling for the death of all Jews is anti-Semitism and making a comment about Palestinians and Israel is irrelevant and doesn't make the anti-Semitism any more palatable, well, at least not to most.

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Spanish Imam Prays for �Destruction of Jews� Near Madrid [View all] Rhinodawg Aug 2014 OP

Spoken like a true man of God. nt COLGATE4 Aug 2014 #1

A rabbi is a man of G-d Wella Aug 2014 #2

I didn't think I needed to add the sarcasm COLGATE4 Aug 2014 #7

So you think he is not acting like a man of G-d. Wella Aug 2014 #10

You catch on really fast. COLGATE4 Aug 2014 #13

Thank you! Wella Aug 2014 #14

I think you forgot the delete_bush Aug 2014 #128

Yeah. That happens... COLGATE4 Aug 2014 #132

Unless he is the Chief Rabbi shaayecanaan Aug 2014 #18

1,000 Rabbis Sign Letter Opposing The Appointment Of Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu To Chief Sephardic Rabbi oberliner Aug 2014 #36

I was merely pointing out... shaayecanaan Aug 2014 #48

Not really leftynyc Aug 2014 #82

How many followers does this Spanish Imam have? seveneyes Aug 2014 #3

Good question Aerows Aug 2014 #16

+200 raven mad Aug 2014 #53

it's wrong moving to another country and then bringing all your crap with you samsingh Aug 2014 #4

What deity is he expecting to answer such a prayer? aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2014 #5

�Do not spare a single one of them.� Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #6

Gee it wouldn't be spelled H-A-M-A-S, wouldn't it? Archae Aug 2014 #8

Hamas wants royalties... This Imam stole that line. Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #9

One anti-Semitic fool prays for the destruction of a people malaise Aug 2014 #11

Tell me something. Kurska Aug 2014 #15

Tell me something. Aerows Aug 2014 #17

Let me be blunt. Kurska Aug 2014 #19

"And would we accept anyone doing this for any other minority group?" Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #20

Yup, exactly my point. Kurska Aug 2014 #21

I must be forgetting Aerows Aug 2014 #24

Um, that is excatly what the Iman in the OP is doing. Did you read it? Kurska Aug 2014 #27

Not only that while we are willing to condemn malaise Aug 2014 #93

Condemning words Aerows Aug 2014 #109

They are ugly words but words are not genocide malaise Aug 2014 #112

You got attacked in this thread Aerows Aug 2014 #117

REALLY? Aerows Aug 2014 #23

Wait, are you saying that this is equivalent to people saying Michael Brown deserved to die Kurska Aug 2014 #30

I'm defending a person where the topic at hand is "all Jews deserve to die"? Aerows Aug 2014 #38

The thread is about all jews deserving to die. Read the OP Kurska Aug 2014 #41

Unfortunately Aerows Aug 2014 #22

Can we please cut out the BS? Kurska Aug 2014 #25

George Bush is a war criminal. Aerows Aug 2014 #26

No one accused him of saying that, literally what thread are you reading? Kurska Aug 2014 #28

It is noble that you are not calling for the extermination of dumb people from Texas FrodosPet Aug 2014 #32

Probably not anymore than I could convince Aerows Aug 2014 #34

With many, if not most of them, in a one on one conversation FrodosPet Aug 2014 #42

Well then Aerows Aug 2014 #43

Challenge accepted! FrodosPet Aug 2014 #44

Hey, you never know :) Aerows Aug 2014 #46

+ infinity !!!! Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #47

What's happening in Gaza is opening up the opportunity for barely disguised anti-semitism from some HERVEPA Aug 2014 #29

Or it could just be Aerows Aug 2014 #33

It's what you say for most people here, anti-semitism for many HERVEPA Aug 2014 #35

So you are accusing "many" on DU Aerows Aug 2014 #39

Not including you, am including many, obviously not naming names. HERVEPA Aug 2014 #45

Noticed. 840high Aug 2014 #49

Unlike anti-black and anti-Arab hate, which is refreshingly open on DU Scootaloo Aug 2014 #54

Yup. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #56

I'd like to think that many people Aerows Aug 2014 #57

And many use those prisims to their advantage, then claim "foul" when called on it. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #59

Examples Aerows Aug 2014 #60

Why? Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #61

The objection, then Aerows Aug 2014 #62

The objection is simply this... Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #63

Yes it does Aerows Aug 2014 #64

Yes, and it was that "heaping helping of hyperbole" above that started this subthread. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #65

At least it was acknowledged as anti semitism. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #71

You noticed that too? Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #72

+ 10000 JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #89

No, it's just that when someone advocates killing all Jews, that's the PERFECT TIME Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #69

Thank you JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #88

Frankly, I believe DU is Aerows Aug 2014 #134

Israel is not a "minority group" Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #66

But Jews ARE a minority group and the Iman wasn't calling for the destruction of Israel. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #67

Muslim anti-Semitism is largely a reaction to Israel's actions against the Palestinians. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #68

Anti-Semitism is still anti-Semitism. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #70

It seems to be rather wilfully ignorant... Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #73

It seems to me to be wilfully ignorant... Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #74

There's a difference between an explanation and an excuse Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #75

Yes there is. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #76

It's not just "my" logic, as the examples provided amply illustrate Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #77

The nuance issue seems to be yours. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #78

Nope, it's entirely yours Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #80

No, it is actually all yours. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #81

I have't commented on that post, one way or another... Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #84

Of course you haven't commented on that post. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #85

What "strawman"? Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #87

Yes, it is a strawman, but seemingly an accidental one. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #104

Hardly irrelevant. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #106

You're still wrong. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #118

See my response below BTA JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #91

What in the FUCK? Aerows Aug 2014 #115

Thank you for 'splaining. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #119

Thank you for being rude Aerows Aug 2014 #122

It started with your rude post. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #124

When you "rework" someone's post Aerows Aug 2014 #125

Then you totally missed the point! Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #126

I have never missed the point Aerows Aug 2014 #127

Oh, but you did and continue to do so. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #129

Let me get this straight Aerows Aug 2014 #130

No, get it CORRECT. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #131

I don't think anyone Aerows Aug 2014 #133

You have already explained in another post why you won't get this. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #137

No. Aerows Aug 2014 #140

You really DO NOT GET IT. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #142

No it's not oberliner Aug 2014 #95

100% correct malaise Aug 2014 #94

The thread was about jew hatred. Kurska Aug 2014 #102

You disappoint me. 840high Aug 2014 #50

Best comment by far! +1 GitRDun Aug 2014 #52

Implying that YOU Aerows Aug 2014 #58

You know my convictions sis malaise Aug 2014 #96

Please, Madrid, do the Spanish people a favor and exile this motherfucker..... AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #12

My stepdad used to say: ZombieHorde Aug 2014 #31

Well said oberliner Aug 2014 #37

Profound Aerows Aug 2014 #40

That sure isn't very Christian of him. Opps.... still_one Aug 2014 #51

Asshole religious man says asshole stuff Scootaloo Aug 2014 #55

Oh yay sakabatou Aug 2014 #79

I'll wear the hatred leftynyc Aug 2014 #83

I will stand right next to you JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #92

Awww leftynyc Aug 2014 #97

I'm glad JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #99

I too would save Pres Obama leftynyc Aug 2014 #101

BFD, American Christian Leaders regularly pray for the death of and encourage the death of: Exposethefrauds Aug 2014 #86

Let me know when those leftynyc Aug 2014 #98

Do not spare a single one of them JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #90

Gee, he seems like a warm friendly guy. Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #100

It seems that bigotry is alive and active in all its phases. This is really sad. I understand the jwirr Aug 2014 #103

George Carlin was right - religion is the leading cause of death on this planet. Initech Aug 2014 #105

Christianity produces some nutball, hate-filled preachers, too. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #107

I knew you'd say that, buddy. Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #108

Yes Aerows Aug 2014 #110

Like LGBT people? Marrah_G Aug 2014 #111

Think people would "excuse" it away but providing examples of "bad gays"? Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #120

Some people probably would Marrah_G Aug 2014 #121

Hopefully, if that happened, there would be people to condmen it. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #123

Plenty of people step up to the plate Aerows Aug 2014 #135

You summed it up Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #136

Yep Aerows Aug 2014 #138

And sometimes they think the mirror is their opponent. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #139

Food for thought Aerows Aug 2014 #141

This message was self-deleted by its author Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #143

ummm yeah. m-lekktor Aug 2014 #114

Yeah stuff like this is so hard to get your head around. hollowdweller Aug 2014 #113

do people really think this idiot gives a shit about the palestinian people ? JI7 Aug 2014 #116