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In reply to the discussion: What misogyny? [View all]boston bean
(36,929 posts)She never said once that "third wave women" are not "real feminists".
I would like to understand what the 1.4 examples you are claiming said this.
Within feminism the usage sex negative/sex positive is discussed often on both sides. And if people are honest with themselves, just the wording itself is problematic, ie... positive/negative. The connotation of one denotes something "negative".
However, people using sex negative in a way in which to shame womens sexuality is misogynist if a male or female uses it in that way. Even if they call themselves a feminist, it is misogynist. You know feminists and women are not living in a bubble and society does effect us all. Also, calling women prudes is as bad as calling them sluts.
I suppose those are two examples to which you are referring to?
I'm going to ask that you open your mind a bit and look at this from two sides. Using the terms sex negative/sex positive are not helpful as they focus on women as sexual beings, one in a positive way, another in a negative way. Yes, there is much to be said about women having autonomy and not being viewed as a slut for having sex. But there is also much to be said for turning that back in on women who fight for feminist causes, which like it or not, do include the sex trade, prostitution and pornography. Those are disagreements within feminism, but it doesn't mean someone isn't a feminist, on either side.. The way the wording is used by person will determine if it is misogynist. I think that is what the OP was getting at.
In others words, when people are hip hip hooraying for women they deem to be sex POSITIVE and slamming other women for, in their mind, being sex negative, there is a problem. I would hope you could agree with that.