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Divernan

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31. Even Human Resources departments are being increasingly outsourced.
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 11:20 AM
Aug 2014

This fact was brought home to me when 2 of my nieces were recently hired - one in the metropolitan Boston area, and the other in central Ohio, by firms who handle phone calls/emails/benefits questions from employees of other companies.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/02/jobs/more-companies-are-outsourcing-their-human-resources-work.html?_r=0

Problems arise if outside vendors are concerned mainly with maximizing their income and lowering their costs, resulting in “low flexibility and poor service,” Ms. Lucas said. It’s in the best interest of employees at this kind of vendor “to provide as little service as possible,” she said. And at such a vendor’s call center, she said, “I don’t even have to care about morale at your site, because it doesn’t affect my day.”

MS. LUCAS said that if human-resources professionals work for the same company as the employees they serve, their interests are more closely aligned. If your performance is good, “the company will make more money,” she explained. “A better-performing company means a better bonus for me, a happier workplace, and fewer problems all around.”

But many internal H.R. functions have been “cut to the bone,” said Peter Cappelli, a management professor and director of the Center for Human Resources at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. Therefore, the idea that companies will be more strategic about human resources after they outsource “requires some heroic assumptions,” said Professor Cappelli, author of “Why Good People Can’t Get Jobs.” Supervisors may be able to take over some important roles, but many of the people who were experts at recruiting, training and career development have been laid off, he said. So is it any surprise, he added, that companies complain that they can’t find good people?

“The world has moved toward self-service,” he said, and that puts the emphasis on technology, and on information over advice. Sometimes, he said, “there’s literally no one to talk to.”

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I've always abominated the term "Human Resources." malthaussen Aug 2014 #1
human resources mopinko Aug 2014 #4
Even worse that is changing into... MindPilot Aug 2014 #7
I can believe it. malthaussen Aug 2014 #8
Right. I thought these days only corporations were human. nt valerief Aug 2014 #13
Or "Meatware." The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2014 #26
"wetware" in cyberpunk, I think. malthaussen Aug 2014 #27
Of late, it's become simply "resources" IDemo Aug 2014 #10
Human Racehorses Thor_MN Aug 2014 #17
Yeah, and drug you if you don't perform to spec. malthaussen Aug 2014 #19
Just don't ever take your own, or they will have you peeing in a cup. Thor_MN Aug 2014 #32
I'll tel you what's almost worse-- KatyaR Aug 2014 #2
Yes, but back 'then, it was a personnel department and people weren't 'resources'. sinkingfeeling Aug 2014 #3
HR's primary job Kber Aug 2014 #5
I thought HR's main job is to protect the company from employee potential lawsuits. valerief Aug 2014 #14
In part. Kber Aug 2014 #23
Nobody is asking for representation from HR here. Just common courtesy. (nt) PotatoChip Aug 2014 #22
I hope for common courtesy from every one. Kber Aug 2014 #24
Maybe 20 years ago ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #33
I like your bus analogy Kber Aug 2014 #38
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #44
I think refusal to comply with a reasonable directive Kber Aug 2014 #45
I have told them exactly that ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #46
I'm from "then", too, and while there's a lot of "then" that should be revived, Demeter Aug 2014 #6
And the job postings are horrible MindPilot Aug 2014 #9
I think if I saw a misspelling SheilaT Aug 2014 #36
Lol. Kber Aug 2014 #39
This: CrispyQ Aug 2014 #11
Amen !! beemer27 Aug 2014 #12
Market Basket proves if an employer treats their employees well, the employer will get valerief Aug 2014 #16
Civility? Gone. matt819 Aug 2014 #15
HR's fault or the owners? Kber Aug 2014 #40
Small business matt819 Aug 2014 #47
One more thing, off topic matt819 Aug 2014 #18
What you said. riqster Aug 2014 #43
HR represents management... freebrew Aug 2014 #20
Wow Kber Aug 2014 #42
I was telling my kid, only yesterday, what "then" was like, winter is coming Aug 2014 #21
And how they paid in cash... malthaussen Aug 2014 #29
My daughter applied for a scholarship and was told later they only contact gtar100 Aug 2014 #25
Most 21st Century companies ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #28
it's gotten worse than that. a lot of them don't even bother with an auto-reply email confirming magical thyme Aug 2014 #30
Even Human Resources departments are being increasingly outsourced. Divernan Aug 2014 #31
Don't get me started on "Human Resources" departments. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2014 #34
There's one positive reason that happened to me. whatthehey Aug 2014 #35
Thanks for giving her the "what for". Uben Aug 2014 #37
As long ago as the early 1970's SheilaT Aug 2014 #41
Same problem with writing submissions. And since many don't take simultaneous submissions nolabear Aug 2014 #48
The Company I work for still sends a letter via the US Postal Service. unapatriciated Aug 2014 #49
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