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Atman

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133. At some point you must come to realize...

Fri Aug 29, 2014, 12:54 PM

Aug 2014

...that you trivialize feminism by your constant complaining that ANYTHING men say -- I'm one of them. As one of your staunchest advocates, it is an insult, no matter how many times I document that I support women's issues and women/s rights, no matter how many times I post my bona fides, you don't care. I once posted the word "skanky," so therefore I hate women. Period. The word "skanky" means I hate women. Seriously?

Don't you get what you're doing? I'm a feminist. But I'm also a writer and I use words. Lighten up, let us all just accept that the English language has lots of variations. Or don't ever, ever, ever once again ever, use a derogatory term for a man again. Ever. See? It's the language, and you use it, too. I've seen in it your posts.

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Are you a misogynist? Taking the test. [View all] Laelth Aug 2014 OP

i perused, and i perused only half. more an exercise for you, i think. BUT... seabeyond Aug 2014 #1

I am flattered that you read it. Laelth Aug 2014 #5

Wow. Atman Aug 2014 #2

so, you failed 13? seabeyond Aug 2014 #9

You know the word is insulting, right? You realize that some groups are considered Safe Havens. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #15

I understand the context of my statement. Atman Aug 2014 #26

wow. First off, I need a link to the post in question. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #35

So no, you DON'T get the idea of a "protected group" on DU. Scootaloo Aug 2014 #80

Not simple enough. Atman Aug 2014 #87

more than one time you have used that word. You keep using it every time you type it Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #90

Nope. You are lying. Atman Aug 2014 #93

Every time you type it you are using it. Quit typing it and, you will quit using it. n/t Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #95

Stop lying and I will stop calling you a liar. Atman Aug 2014 #98

Here, for one. Iggo Aug 2014 #228

First, a few things. Scootaloo Aug 2014 #120

Bravo! JTFrog Aug 2014 #126

he often does stand up... bravo posts. one i wanted to be an Op really really bad. nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #128

You obviously don't get out much. Atman Aug 2014 #140

Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #237

I don't recall any post wherein I stated I was a victim or repressed. Atman Aug 2014 #137

Here - in this very thread cyberswede Aug 2014 #151

I'm sorry...I fell asleep. Atman Aug 2014 #161

Yeah, I know your playing the victim can be sleep-inducing... cyberswede Aug 2014 #170

I'm not sure what your point is. Atman Aug 2014 #174

You are right about one thin. boston bean Aug 2014 #178

You asked to have instances where you played the victim pointed out. cyberswede Aug 2014 #179

So who is whining? Atman Aug 2014 #181

You are, of course. cyberswede Aug 2014 #191

HELLO, it was this post that got you blocked from HoF: boston bean Aug 2014 #162

Nope, sorry BB. You know nothing about me. Atman Aug 2014 #165

I even stated in the thread at the time the reason. boston bean Aug 2014 #168

Nice. No context, not even the sub line to which I referred. Atman Aug 2014 #169

There is a link and excerpts provided. Plenty of context for anyone who would like boston bean Aug 2014 #172

I sure hope I wasn't blocked for calling RQ a skank! Atman Aug 2014 #177

LOL... you were the one saying you were. boston bean Aug 2014 #180

WTF are you talking about? Atman Aug 2014 #182

Can you click the link I provided to you? boston bean Aug 2014 #186

"If you deny this is what got me banned, prove it"...ok cyberswede Aug 2014 #185

He was blocked in November of 2012. When was this skank post?? boston bean Aug 2014 #193

Feb 2013 cyberswede Aug 2014 #196

So, according to him, I blocked him for a post he had not made yet??? boston bean Aug 2014 #197

So wait a minute...I was still posting AFTER you blocked me? Atman Aug 2014 #204

No, you have not posted in HoF since Nov 2012, the day I blocked you. boston bean Aug 2014 #216

It was about a teenager who was taken to a strip club. Atman Aug 2014 #203

ah, no... I'm pretty tolerant. I blocked you for the reason stated at the time of your blocking. boston bean Aug 2014 #206

The "skank" post wasn't even posted in HoF - it was posted in GD months after you were blocked cyberswede Aug 2014 #219

You've shown NOTHING, cbyber. What it that post got me banished? Atman Aug 2014 #194

Again, you were given the reason at the time of your blocking. boston bean Aug 2014 #199

LOL - ok... cyberswede Aug 2014 #200

I've noticed this behavior as well. AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #209

LOL, that's my response. boston bean Aug 2014 #211

"It's everyone else, NEVER EVER, you." Pot, meet kettle. nt AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #214

I've met you. And yes, we are very different people boston bean Aug 2014 #217

"My beliefs tend to be of the progressive/liberal kind." Me too. AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #229

Understanding white privilege, male privilege is not boston bean Aug 2014 #233

I'll have to be blunt: please, I really wish you'd get a clue for once. AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #242

LOL - so he's lying about being blocked for using "skanky" ?! cyberswede Aug 2014 #173

mm mm.. yep... boston bean Aug 2014 #175

mm mm.. nope. Atman Aug 2014 #188

LOL, when you were blocked in November of 2012 boston bean Aug 2014 #189

At least you finally admit it was YOU who blocked me. Atman Aug 2014 #207

God damned, It was in the link I provided to you. boston bean Aug 2014 #210

Nov 2012: Atman blocked from HoF (by boston bean); Feb 2013: Atman posts "skanky snatch" post in GD cyberswede Aug 2014 #225

I sure hope he does. How could I block him for something he didn't even post yet? boston bean Aug 2014 #227

Ask for the ban to be lifted and try not to use that word again? Rex Aug 2014 #25

Fat chance. Atman Aug 2014 #29

"Fat chance." ya. i am saying, after all they are.... ? nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #31

Well you sound like you have already accept your fate being written in stone. Rex Aug 2014 #46

I honestly don't believe they want "diplomacy." Atman Aug 2014 #61

the agenda, is do not use sexist slurs. ya. that is what feminist do. say, ... no. seabeyond Aug 2014 #63

Honestly, You are the one with the agenda. You want to play the victim in all this. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #92

Yet, you lie about my use of the word "skanky." Atman Aug 2014 #94

See, you just used it again. You appear to be addicted to it. - Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #99

Google the word "WORD." Atman Aug 2014 #103

LOL Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #107

You're not. Atman Aug 2014 #111

LOL - Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #117

One time. ONE TIME I used the word "skanky" in a specific context... Atman Aug 2014 #64

first. if you had just said, my bad. we would be done. second you have then gone on to trash seabeyond Aug 2014 #67

Now that is a little bit fatalist don't you think? You can still discuss women's issues in GD. Rex Aug 2014 #72

No, not made up my mind at all. Atman Aug 2014 #82

But can you just ask to be unbanned and not use that word again? Rex Aug 2014 #85

I asked. They told me to fuck off. Atman Aug 2014 #89

Good for them. n/t JTFrog Aug 2014 #129

Did you ever offer them an olive branch? Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #79

Yes. Many times. Atman Aug 2014 #91

because you validated and excused the use of the word. right? like you do in this thread. seabeyond Aug 2014 #96

I haven't been banned from HoF myself yet. AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #212

I could do that now if you like. You have some issue with the posters in HoF? boston bean Aug 2014 #238

He wasn't blocked from HoF for using skank. boston bean Aug 2014 #239

jesus fucking christ Kali Aug 2014 #135

Hey, Kali...where I have been "whining" for way too long? Atman Aug 2014 #144

you have been whining all through this thread Kali Aug 2014 #155

And you're not "whining," right? You're just a chearleader for justice. Atman Aug 2014 #158

Don't you get the 'funny' side? Call Me Wesley Aug 2014 #190

SURVEY SAYS: Leave it. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #213

try... not using the fuggin word? lol. it is THAT hard. lol. ah rex. seabeyond Aug 2014 #30

It was my daily diplomacy try...looks like a failure. Rex Aug 2014 #40

youngest? seabeyond Aug 2014 #42

Only child. Rex Aug 2014 #50

well. arent you the special one. cuase i always wanted to be the... only child, too. lol. nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #51

Large family sea? Rex Aug 2014 #55

two older brothers, all in a three year span. privileged and challenging. nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #56

Obviously well fucking deserved. n/t JTFrog Aug 2014 #123

I was banned after a fight with Iverglas Gore1FL Aug 2014 #224

What's the point of this? chrisa Aug 2014 #3

There are two possibilities that I see el_bryanto Aug 2014 #8

and it is probably both. interesting and glad you said it as you did. nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #11

Jesus! Most bar exams are shorter than this n/t leftstreet Aug 2014 #4

So when did you get your license to serve drinks? intaglio Aug 2014 #43

You don't find the OP itself 'dismissive?' leftstreet Aug 2014 #97

and here is where the rubber meets the road, so to speak because, the very fact that he took Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #145

In essence he lied to himself and thus also to us. seabeyond Aug 2014 #149

Have a good lunch, sea. ttyl Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #154

8 out of 10 for Passive Aggressiveness leftstreet Aug 2014 #218

exactly! Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #221

I think posting history is much more indicative than a challenge... LanternWaste Aug 2014 #6

I agree with watching posting history especially when I see an arc in character development. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #18

hey. we have been talking to each other, and listening, for over a decade. this not taking it seabeyond Aug 2014 #21

I admit to also being confused. How else can one know a person if not by their actions? Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #45

ya. lol. nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author wyldwolf Aug 2014 #7

Color me impressed for taking the time and having the courage to post this. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #10

OM... fuggin, G. or g. i LOVE. seabeyond Aug 2014 #12

... lol ... Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #13

"to open up the dialogue in this manner." that was my first post. i can respect that. nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #14

I would be flattered if she would do so. Laelth Aug 2014 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #48

I suspect my only landmines are 8 and 22 whatthehey Aug 2014 #16

good post without the wine... seabeyond Aug 2014 #20

I agree, but it's a common issue, and the thread in question and its spinoffs demonstrate this. whatthehey Aug 2014 #27

when a long time, male poster told some woman in hof he assumed alerted, she needed to get laid, seabeyond Aug 2014 #34

why should anyone, male or female, tell someone they need to get laid? Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #83

uptight. anti sex. prude. the other end of the spectrum. that is all. nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #100

and that is why I don't get it because I am not any of that ... but, maybe they are/were Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #104

it is about dishonesty tuesday. that is why i do not say, i like sex, i like men.... seabeyond Aug 2014 #109

Yes, it is dishonest. The two women are liars. One is here on a daily basis still telling lies. - Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #115

I'm less of a misogynist than you are based upon this quiz, TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #17

Jerk and Asshole work for both genders that are difficult to satisfy. You realize Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #19

I certainly know that some men (I'm one of them) are difficult to satisfy, TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #75

I judge not but, I do have a question = Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #77

Good question, TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #167

I understsand ... this is a growing and learning experince for all humans, I think. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #183

it is the fact you need to insult women in a gendered way. insult men in a non gendered manner. seabeyond Aug 2014 #81

I'll agree with your comments. TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #132

There is nothing gendered about asshole or jerk and they're both as succinct as bitch. Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #153

Okay, but you don't have to be a jerk about it. TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #171

A-hole. Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #232

jerk or asshole. on the other hand, i have clearly been on the record as saying.... seabeyond Aug 2014 #22

Exactly. I was also guilty but, Yes, I find I have no need for the word anymore. There are many Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #52

Please see my response in post #75. TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #84

hey.. much is just conversation. and i appreciate yours. i replied further, above. thanks. nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #105

Certainly relieves the need for critical thought phil89 Aug 2014 #23

"In my hand I hold a list..." BKH70041 Aug 2014 #24

Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #32

omg leftstreet Aug 2014 #39

you will probably get a hide. and yes... thank you for the link. nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #41

That wasn't very nice, you could have said "sexy piece of shit" snooper2 Aug 2014 #47

Wow...that post, hard to ignore. Rex Aug 2014 #57

Wow. Marr Aug 2014 #66

wow. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #68

"It's not like the shooter didn't have a point" LeftyMom Aug 2014 #69

yeah, let that sink in. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #73

Wow, I guess meta call out snark is okay as long as it attacks feminsts? bettyellen Aug 2014 #101

bummer hide. but X took one for the team in honesty. nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #113

That is a hide to be proud of ... that one would go in my journal if it had been mine. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #122

oh man. i should have put my hides in journal, a hundred hides ago. nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #124

for real - Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #127

ah ha... got a lunch i have to get to. later. nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #130

Always a pleasure chatting with you, sea. Ciao! Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #131

"take one for the team"? So... is "the team" pooling your hides? n/t lumberjack_jeff Aug 2014 #138

literally lumerjack... whatever seabeyond Aug 2014 #141

You caught us. Women are all engaged in a conspiracy to oppress you. You're very clever. nt LeftyMom Aug 2014 #187

I agree with the sentiment in the hide... LanternWaste Aug 2014 #143

exactly. that is the complexity of the Op writer. he believes. i see so many men believe that seabeyond Aug 2014 #150

Wow. Laelth Aug 2014 #241

That sounds like something a right-wing knuckle dragger would say. Wow. demmiblue Aug 2014 #74

LOLOL leftstreet Aug 2014 #102

Your answer on #4 probably won't sit well with BainsBane and others taught_me_patience Aug 2014 #33

Whenever I see BainBain for some reason I always get a mental image of Bam Bam snooper2 Aug 2014 #36

Your "Bads" indicate that, yes, you have a misogynistic attitude intaglio Aug 2014 #37

I dunno if you're a misogynist... Scootaloo Aug 2014 #38

concerted effort to pretend that you don't 'get it." seabeyond Aug 2014 #44

This really doesn't seem sincere mythology Aug 2014 #53

Regarding number two- liberalhistorian Aug 2014 #54

This seems problematic to me. Marr Aug 2014 #58

Good post, as a man it is easy to F up once in a while and do something inappropriate even randys1 Aug 2014 #59

kinda how i look at it. listen. i do. and last one, funny.... nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #60

Randy, here's an honest question for you: AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #223

It was not meant as a test BainsBane Aug 2014 #62

thank you for the reality and clarification. i have got to admit, i was having fun with it. truth, seabeyond Aug 2014 #65

Sea, this OP is about mocking my concerns BainsBane Aug 2014 #108

you are right on..... nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #114

I agree theHandpuppet Aug 2014 #236

If I were to accept her test (and implied revision of the dictionary) as valid, then yes. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2014 #70

it is not her test, but what laelth created it to be. he and you are defining, not hof. nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #86

jury results RussBLib Aug 2014 #160

I have the biggest issue with 25 and 26. Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #71

Reading through this OP Inkfreak Aug 2014 #76

Very interesting. hifiguy Aug 2014 #78

Laelth, please change your title. There is no BainsBane test BainsBane Aug 2014 #88

Ouch. It hurts, doesn't it? Atman Aug 2014 #106

I have no problem with my words, and am not ashamed of them in the least. BainsBane Aug 2014 #112

"Clearly the truth means nothing to you." Atman Aug 2014 #118

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Aug 2014 #146

Your martyrdom for using a misogynistic word will be given all the credibility it warrants LanternWaste Aug 2014 #148

No worries Baines, His intent is Very Clear. This OP has generated some good discussion. Let it be. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #110

I will not let it be BainsBane Aug 2014 #116

Oh believe me, I know how you feel. I have been where you are now. - Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #125

At some point you must come to realize... Atman Aug 2014 #133

here is the thing, Atman ... she may use derogatory terminiology but, I doubt it is Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #152

Yet, still, someone tried to hide my post. Atman Aug 2014 #156

dude, I do not alert. Never fear of that from me. - Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #159

There is a posse of alerters from HoF that try to shut down anything taught_me_patience Aug 2014 #202

and Here I am going on record to say that I do not know you much less ever laughed at you or ever Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #208

wow, I didn't think men were still telling women to "lighten up." CTyankee Aug 2014 #164

I didn't tell WOMEN to "lighten up." Atman Aug 2014 #166

It is an unfortunate choice of words, Atman. CTyankee Aug 2014 #192

You don't need to inform me of anything. Atman Aug 2014 #195

I will be patient. CTyankee Aug 2014 #205

"mocked for the entertainment of men who resent the fact women speak in public" LondonReign2 Aug 2014 #184

except what she says is correct. it is NOT baines test. gosh, i cannot call that what it is seabeyond Aug 2014 #119

She is a correct but, it generated (maybe unintentionally by the OP) such a good jumping off place Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #136

"Among the positions some feminists identify with sexism and misogyny..." lumberjack_jeff Aug 2014 #134

I can add a 29th Depaysement Aug 2014 #121

I thought of that but, I think it is kind of covered in the #4, maybe ... the one where Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #157

I have a test of my own. Are you rude and insensitive on the internet CBGLuthier Aug 2014 #139

to Kill a Mockingbird was fiction treestar Aug 2014 #142

The Duke lacrosse case was real, however. Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #215

#6 with a cavaet. Not all false charges are equal. ieoeja Aug 2014 #147

I just looked at Bain'sbane's original post. stage left Aug 2014 #163

I don't do purity tests. Iron Man Aug 2014 #176

Neither does BainesBane. Moosepoop Aug 2014 #222

I sincerely wish I could believe that. I really do. AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #230

with all sincere respect..... steve2470 Aug 2014 #198

This is a decent OP, IMO. AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #201

$50. Standing offer. nt LeftyMom Aug 2014 #220

I'll throw in another $50, if it helps! boston bean Aug 2014 #226

STFUstarter could save DU! nt LeftyMom Aug 2014 #234

Skinner could be a millionaire before he know it. boston bean Aug 2014 #235

I think you misinterpret the intent of the post to which you are responding. malthaussen Aug 2014 #231

This Violates the SOP of GD. Raffi Ella Aug 2014 #240