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160. jury results

Fri Aug 29, 2014, 01:23 PM

Aug 2014

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

String of one MRA propaganda smear after another. Women are in fact given harsher sentences for murder of spouses than men. What they are not given is the same penalty for a petty offense as the violent crimes more often committed by men, and that infuriates Jeff who clearly believes women should be treated more harshly for lesser sentences and men more leniantly for violent ones. This member presents false, right-wing propaganda as a way to work against equality for women. He also throws in an insult to HOF members. Note it is a man and not BB or a HOF member who posted this as a test. BB says in her response to this thread her OP was not meant as a test and should not be interpreted as one. This member once again turns to propaganda from far right-wing hate groups to insist men are oppressed and women are priivileged. Might as well say the Koch brothers are oppressed by the poor, because that is the equivalent of his argument. It is far right wing and unacceptable among liberals.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Aug 29, 2014, 12:25 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: The whole thread is flame bait. Still judging this post on its own, the cherry picked examples to use it to generally smear HoF is going too far. Hide vote from a male who has little to no use for HoF- I may not be a fan but they do have a right to a group and to speak their minds.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The alerter's comments should have been a reply to the poster.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: In the time allotted, I don't think I could parse through all that. Let DUers read it, fercrissake, and make up their own minds. Now there's a concept!
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: it seems like the flagger actually just has a different point of view.

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Are you a misogynist? Taking the test. [View all] Laelth Aug 2014 OP

i perused, and i perused only half. more an exercise for you, i think. BUT... seabeyond Aug 2014 #1

I am flattered that you read it. Laelth Aug 2014 #5

Wow. Atman Aug 2014 #2

so, you failed 13? seabeyond Aug 2014 #9

You know the word is insulting, right? You realize that some groups are considered Safe Havens. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #15

I understand the context of my statement. Atman Aug 2014 #26

wow. First off, I need a link to the post in question. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #35

So no, you DON'T get the idea of a "protected group" on DU. Scootaloo Aug 2014 #80

Not simple enough. Atman Aug 2014 #87

more than one time you have used that word. You keep using it every time you type it Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #90

Nope. You are lying. Atman Aug 2014 #93

Every time you type it you are using it. Quit typing it and, you will quit using it. n/t Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #95

Stop lying and I will stop calling you a liar. Atman Aug 2014 #98

Here, for one. Iggo Aug 2014 #228

First, a few things. Scootaloo Aug 2014 #120

Bravo! JTFrog Aug 2014 #126

he often does stand up... bravo posts. one i wanted to be an Op really really bad. nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #128

You obviously don't get out much. Atman Aug 2014 #140

Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #237

I don't recall any post wherein I stated I was a victim or repressed. Atman Aug 2014 #137

Here - in this very thread cyberswede Aug 2014 #151

I'm sorry...I fell asleep. Atman Aug 2014 #161

Yeah, I know your playing the victim can be sleep-inducing... cyberswede Aug 2014 #170

I'm not sure what your point is. Atman Aug 2014 #174

You are right about one thin. boston bean Aug 2014 #178

You asked to have instances where you played the victim pointed out. cyberswede Aug 2014 #179

So who is whining? Atman Aug 2014 #181

You are, of course. cyberswede Aug 2014 #191

HELLO, it was this post that got you blocked from HoF: boston bean Aug 2014 #162

Nope, sorry BB. You know nothing about me. Atman Aug 2014 #165

I even stated in the thread at the time the reason. boston bean Aug 2014 #168

Nice. No context, not even the sub line to which I referred. Atman Aug 2014 #169

There is a link and excerpts provided. Plenty of context for anyone who would like boston bean Aug 2014 #172

I sure hope I wasn't blocked for calling RQ a skank! Atman Aug 2014 #177

LOL... you were the one saying you were. boston bean Aug 2014 #180

WTF are you talking about? Atman Aug 2014 #182

Can you click the link I provided to you? boston bean Aug 2014 #186

"If you deny this is what got me banned, prove it"...ok cyberswede Aug 2014 #185

He was blocked in November of 2012. When was this skank post?? boston bean Aug 2014 #193

Feb 2013 cyberswede Aug 2014 #196

So, according to him, I blocked him for a post he had not made yet??? boston bean Aug 2014 #197

So wait a minute...I was still posting AFTER you blocked me? Atman Aug 2014 #204

No, you have not posted in HoF since Nov 2012, the day I blocked you. boston bean Aug 2014 #216

It was about a teenager who was taken to a strip club. Atman Aug 2014 #203

ah, no... I'm pretty tolerant. I blocked you for the reason stated at the time of your blocking. boston bean Aug 2014 #206

The "skank" post wasn't even posted in HoF - it was posted in GD months after you were blocked cyberswede Aug 2014 #219

You've shown NOTHING, cbyber. What it that post got me banished? Atman Aug 2014 #194

Again, you were given the reason at the time of your blocking. boston bean Aug 2014 #199

LOL - ok... cyberswede Aug 2014 #200

I've noticed this behavior as well. AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #209

LOL, that's my response. boston bean Aug 2014 #211

"It's everyone else, NEVER EVER, you." Pot, meet kettle. nt AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #214

I've met you. And yes, we are very different people boston bean Aug 2014 #217

"My beliefs tend to be of the progressive/liberal kind." Me too. AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #229

Understanding white privilege, male privilege is not boston bean Aug 2014 #233

I'll have to be blunt: please, I really wish you'd get a clue for once. AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #242

LOL - so he's lying about being blocked for using "skanky" ?! cyberswede Aug 2014 #173

mm mm.. yep... boston bean Aug 2014 #175

mm mm.. nope. Atman Aug 2014 #188

LOL, when you were blocked in November of 2012 boston bean Aug 2014 #189

At least you finally admit it was YOU who blocked me. Atman Aug 2014 #207

God damned, It was in the link I provided to you. boston bean Aug 2014 #210

Nov 2012: Atman blocked from HoF (by boston bean); Feb 2013: Atman posts "skanky snatch" post in GD cyberswede Aug 2014 #225

I sure hope he does. How could I block him for something he didn't even post yet? boston bean Aug 2014 #227

Ask for the ban to be lifted and try not to use that word again? Rex Aug 2014 #25

Fat chance. Atman Aug 2014 #29

"Fat chance." ya. i am saying, after all they are.... ? nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #31

Well you sound like you have already accept your fate being written in stone. Rex Aug 2014 #46

I honestly don't believe they want "diplomacy." Atman Aug 2014 #61

the agenda, is do not use sexist slurs. ya. that is what feminist do. say, ... no. seabeyond Aug 2014 #63

Honestly, You are the one with the agenda. You want to play the victim in all this. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #92

Yet, you lie about my use of the word "skanky." Atman Aug 2014 #94

See, you just used it again. You appear to be addicted to it. - Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #99

Google the word "WORD." Atman Aug 2014 #103

LOL Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #107

You're not. Atman Aug 2014 #111

LOL - Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #117

One time. ONE TIME I used the word "skanky" in a specific context... Atman Aug 2014 #64

first. if you had just said, my bad. we would be done. second you have then gone on to trash seabeyond Aug 2014 #67

Now that is a little bit fatalist don't you think? You can still discuss women's issues in GD. Rex Aug 2014 #72

No, not made up my mind at all. Atman Aug 2014 #82

But can you just ask to be unbanned and not use that word again? Rex Aug 2014 #85

I asked. They told me to fuck off. Atman Aug 2014 #89

Good for them. n/t JTFrog Aug 2014 #129

Did you ever offer them an olive branch? Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #79

Yes. Many times. Atman Aug 2014 #91

because you validated and excused the use of the word. right? like you do in this thread. seabeyond Aug 2014 #96

I haven't been banned from HoF myself yet. AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #212

I could do that now if you like. You have some issue with the posters in HoF? boston bean Aug 2014 #238

He wasn't blocked from HoF for using skank. boston bean Aug 2014 #239

jesus fucking christ Kali Aug 2014 #135

Hey, Kali...where I have been "whining" for way too long? Atman Aug 2014 #144

you have been whining all through this thread Kali Aug 2014 #155

And you're not "whining," right? You're just a chearleader for justice. Atman Aug 2014 #158

Don't you get the 'funny' side? Call Me Wesley Aug 2014 #190

SURVEY SAYS: Leave it. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #213

try... not using the fuggin word? lol. it is THAT hard. lol. ah rex. seabeyond Aug 2014 #30

It was my daily diplomacy try...looks like a failure. Rex Aug 2014 #40

youngest? seabeyond Aug 2014 #42

Only child. Rex Aug 2014 #50

well. arent you the special one. cuase i always wanted to be the... only child, too. lol. nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #51

Large family sea? Rex Aug 2014 #55

two older brothers, all in a three year span. privileged and challenging. nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #56

Obviously well fucking deserved. n/t JTFrog Aug 2014 #123

I was banned after a fight with Iverglas Gore1FL Aug 2014 #224

What's the point of this? chrisa Aug 2014 #3

There are two possibilities that I see el_bryanto Aug 2014 #8

and it is probably both. interesting and glad you said it as you did. nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #11

Jesus! Most bar exams are shorter than this n/t leftstreet Aug 2014 #4

So when did you get your license to serve drinks? intaglio Aug 2014 #43

You don't find the OP itself 'dismissive?' leftstreet Aug 2014 #97

and here is where the rubber meets the road, so to speak because, the very fact that he took Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #145

In essence he lied to himself and thus also to us. seabeyond Aug 2014 #149

Have a good lunch, sea. ttyl Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #154

8 out of 10 for Passive Aggressiveness leftstreet Aug 2014 #218

exactly! Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #221

I think posting history is much more indicative than a challenge... LanternWaste Aug 2014 #6

I agree with watching posting history especially when I see an arc in character development. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #18

hey. we have been talking to each other, and listening, for over a decade. this not taking it seabeyond Aug 2014 #21

I admit to also being confused. How else can one know a person if not by their actions? Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #45

ya. lol. nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author wyldwolf Aug 2014 #7

Color me impressed for taking the time and having the courage to post this. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #10

OM... fuggin, G. or g. i LOVE. seabeyond Aug 2014 #12

... lol ... Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #13

"to open up the dialogue in this manner." that was my first post. i can respect that. nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #14

I would be flattered if she would do so. Laelth Aug 2014 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #48

I suspect my only landmines are 8 and 22 whatthehey Aug 2014 #16

good post without the wine... seabeyond Aug 2014 #20

I agree, but it's a common issue, and the thread in question and its spinoffs demonstrate this. whatthehey Aug 2014 #27

when a long time, male poster told some woman in hof he assumed alerted, she needed to get laid, seabeyond Aug 2014 #34

why should anyone, male or female, tell someone they need to get laid? Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #83

uptight. anti sex. prude. the other end of the spectrum. that is all. nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #100

and that is why I don't get it because I am not any of that ... but, maybe they are/were Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #104

it is about dishonesty tuesday. that is why i do not say, i like sex, i like men.... seabeyond Aug 2014 #109

Yes, it is dishonest. The two women are liars. One is here on a daily basis still telling lies. - Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #115

I'm less of a misogynist than you are based upon this quiz, TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #17

Jerk and Asshole work for both genders that are difficult to satisfy. You realize Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #19

I certainly know that some men (I'm one of them) are difficult to satisfy, TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #75

I judge not but, I do have a question = Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #77

Good question, TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #167

I understsand ... this is a growing and learning experince for all humans, I think. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #183

it is the fact you need to insult women in a gendered way. insult men in a non gendered manner. seabeyond Aug 2014 #81

I'll agree with your comments. TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #132

There is nothing gendered about asshole or jerk and they're both as succinct as bitch. Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #153

Okay, but you don't have to be a jerk about it. TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #171

A-hole. Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #232

jerk or asshole. on the other hand, i have clearly been on the record as saying.... seabeyond Aug 2014 #22

Exactly. I was also guilty but, Yes, I find I have no need for the word anymore. There are many Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #52

Please see my response in post #75. TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #84

hey.. much is just conversation. and i appreciate yours. i replied further, above. thanks. nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #105

Certainly relieves the need for critical thought phil89 Aug 2014 #23

"In my hand I hold a list..." BKH70041 Aug 2014 #24

Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #32

omg leftstreet Aug 2014 #39

you will probably get a hide. and yes... thank you for the link. nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #41

That wasn't very nice, you could have said "sexy piece of shit" snooper2 Aug 2014 #47

Wow...that post, hard to ignore. Rex Aug 2014 #57

Wow. Marr Aug 2014 #66

wow. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #68

"It's not like the shooter didn't have a point" LeftyMom Aug 2014 #69

yeah, let that sink in. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #73

Wow, I guess meta call out snark is okay as long as it attacks feminsts? bettyellen Aug 2014 #101

bummer hide. but X took one for the team in honesty. nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #113

That is a hide to be proud of ... that one would go in my journal if it had been mine. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #122

oh man. i should have put my hides in journal, a hundred hides ago. nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #124

for real - Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #127

ah ha... got a lunch i have to get to. later. nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #130

Always a pleasure chatting with you, sea. Ciao! Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #131

"take one for the team"? So... is "the team" pooling your hides? n/t lumberjack_jeff Aug 2014 #138

literally lumerjack... whatever seabeyond Aug 2014 #141

You caught us. Women are all engaged in a conspiracy to oppress you. You're very clever. nt LeftyMom Aug 2014 #187

I agree with the sentiment in the hide... LanternWaste Aug 2014 #143

exactly. that is the complexity of the Op writer. he believes. i see so many men believe that seabeyond Aug 2014 #150

Wow. Laelth Aug 2014 #241

That sounds like something a right-wing knuckle dragger would say. Wow. demmiblue Aug 2014 #74

LOLOL leftstreet Aug 2014 #102

Your answer on #4 probably won't sit well with BainsBane and others taught_me_patience Aug 2014 #33

Whenever I see BainBain for some reason I always get a mental image of Bam Bam snooper2 Aug 2014 #36

Your "Bads" indicate that, yes, you have a misogynistic attitude intaglio Aug 2014 #37

I dunno if you're a misogynist... Scootaloo Aug 2014 #38

concerted effort to pretend that you don't 'get it." seabeyond Aug 2014 #44

This really doesn't seem sincere mythology Aug 2014 #53

Regarding number two- liberalhistorian Aug 2014 #54

This seems problematic to me. Marr Aug 2014 #58

Good post, as a man it is easy to F up once in a while and do something inappropriate even randys1 Aug 2014 #59

kinda how i look at it. listen. i do. and last one, funny.... nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #60

Randy, here's an honest question for you: AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #223

It was not meant as a test BainsBane Aug 2014 #62

thank you for the reality and clarification. i have got to admit, i was having fun with it. truth, seabeyond Aug 2014 #65

Sea, this OP is about mocking my concerns BainsBane Aug 2014 #108

you are right on..... nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #114

I agree theHandpuppet Aug 2014 #236

If I were to accept her test (and implied revision of the dictionary) as valid, then yes. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2014 #70

it is not her test, but what laelth created it to be. he and you are defining, not hof. nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #86

jury results RussBLib Aug 2014 #160

I have the biggest issue with 25 and 26. Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #71

Reading through this OP Inkfreak Aug 2014 #76

Very interesting. hifiguy Aug 2014 #78

Laelth, please change your title. There is no BainsBane test BainsBane Aug 2014 #88

Ouch. It hurts, doesn't it? Atman Aug 2014 #106

I have no problem with my words, and am not ashamed of them in the least. BainsBane Aug 2014 #112

"Clearly the truth means nothing to you." Atman Aug 2014 #118

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Aug 2014 #146

Your martyrdom for using a misogynistic word will be given all the credibility it warrants LanternWaste Aug 2014 #148

No worries Baines, His intent is Very Clear. This OP has generated some good discussion. Let it be. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #110

I will not let it be BainsBane Aug 2014 #116

Oh believe me, I know how you feel. I have been where you are now. - Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #125

At some point you must come to realize... Atman Aug 2014 #133

here is the thing, Atman ... she may use derogatory terminiology but, I doubt it is Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #152

Yet, still, someone tried to hide my post. Atman Aug 2014 #156

dude, I do not alert. Never fear of that from me. - Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #159

There is a posse of alerters from HoF that try to shut down anything taught_me_patience Aug 2014 #202

and Here I am going on record to say that I do not know you much less ever laughed at you or ever Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #208

wow, I didn't think men were still telling women to "lighten up." CTyankee Aug 2014 #164

I didn't tell WOMEN to "lighten up." Atman Aug 2014 #166

It is an unfortunate choice of words, Atman. CTyankee Aug 2014 #192

You don't need to inform me of anything. Atman Aug 2014 #195

I will be patient. CTyankee Aug 2014 #205

"mocked for the entertainment of men who resent the fact women speak in public" LondonReign2 Aug 2014 #184

except what she says is correct. it is NOT baines test. gosh, i cannot call that what it is seabeyond Aug 2014 #119

She is a correct but, it generated (maybe unintentionally by the OP) such a good jumping off place Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #136

"Among the positions some feminists identify with sexism and misogyny..." lumberjack_jeff Aug 2014 #134

I can add a 29th Depaysement Aug 2014 #121

I thought of that but, I think it is kind of covered in the #4, maybe ... the one where Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #157

I have a test of my own. Are you rude and insensitive on the internet CBGLuthier Aug 2014 #139

to Kill a Mockingbird was fiction treestar Aug 2014 #142

The Duke lacrosse case was real, however. Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #215

#6 with a cavaet. Not all false charges are equal. ieoeja Aug 2014 #147

I just looked at Bain'sbane's original post. stage left Aug 2014 #163

I don't do purity tests. Iron Man Aug 2014 #176

Neither does BainesBane. Moosepoop Aug 2014 #222

I sincerely wish I could believe that. I really do. AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #230

with all sincere respect..... steve2470 Aug 2014 #198

This is a decent OP, IMO. AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #201

$50. Standing offer. nt LeftyMom Aug 2014 #220

I'll throw in another $50, if it helps! boston bean Aug 2014 #226

STFUstarter could save DU! nt LeftyMom Aug 2014 #234

Skinner could be a millionaire before he know it. boston bean Aug 2014 #235

I think you misinterpret the intent of the post to which you are responding. malthaussen Aug 2014 #231

This Violates the SOP of GD. Raffi Ella Aug 2014 #240