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In reply to the discussion: What should be done about Russia and Ukraine? [View all]pampango
(24,692 posts)70. There are plenty of fascists in Moscow if you go by the definition of fascism.
Fascist movements shared certain common features, including the veneration of the state, a devotion to a strong leader, and an emphasis on ultranationalism and militarism. Fascism views political violence, war, and imperialism as a means to achieve national rejuvenation, and it asserts that stronger nations have the right to expand their territory by displacing weaker nations.
Fascism borrowed theories and terminology from socialism but replaced socialism's focus on class conflict with a focus on conflict between nations and races. Fascists advocate a mixed economy, with the principal goal of achieving autarky to secure national self-sufficiency and independence through protectionist and interventionist economic policies.
The Nazis said that homosexuality was degenerate, effeminate, perverted, and undermined masculinity because it did not produce children.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
Veneration of the state (Mother Russia) - check
devotion to a strong leader - check
emphasis on ultranationalism and militarism - check
politcal violence, war and imperialism - check
strong nations (Russia) have a right to expand their territory by displacing weaker nations (Ukraine) - check
focus on conflict between nations (Russia vs. US/EU) and races (ethnic Russians vs. ethnic Ukrainians) - check
protectionist and interventionist economic policies - check
homosexuality is forbidden by the state - check.
There is nothing liberal or progressive about the Russian government or its leader.
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France should cancel delivery of the 2 helicopter carriers, for a start
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2014
#3
Neither possible. France needs money, the EU needs fuel. Resource wars, as usual.
freshwest
Aug 2014
#30
White supremacists heading to Kiev from all over the world bother me much more
eridani
Aug 2014
#116
America and Western Europe promised not to expand NATO after Gorbachev withdrew troops
eridani
Aug 2014
#123
For the same reason we would assert a right to invade Mexico had it ever joined the Warsaw Pact n/t
eridani
Aug 2014
#129
There are plenty of fascists in Moscow if you go by the definition of fascism.
pampango
Aug 2014
#70
As I understand it, a treaty of the demarcation of borders was signed in 2010.
BillZBubb
Aug 2014
#60
Explaining my take on the situation will open me up to considerable ridicule, but here goes!
tech3149
Aug 2014
#15
I won't argue your points re: NATO there is much that I have not studied on the issue
tech3149
Aug 2014
#31
You've hit a nerve. I've wondered the same thing. Maybe we're supposed to be kept confused about
ancianita
Aug 2014
#16
Putin's "demographic unification" smacks of the annexaton of the Sudetenland.
BillZBubb
Aug 2014
#28
Only through NATO requests, and as I've said before, Ukraine never made it into NATO. Other members
freshwest
Aug 2014
#61
Unfortunately, Sir, I Doubt That Is Possible, Now, Or From The Start, For That Matter
The Magistrate
Aug 2014
#32
I will ignore your Hitler-Chamberlain analogy and just point out that things can still get worse. nt
bemildred
Aug 2014
#44
The analogy is apt and should not be ignored. The general situation is eerily similar.
BillZBubb
Aug 2014
#47
it is about continuing the unipolar moment: if we remove Russia from Crimea and the West controls
yurbud
Aug 2014
#55
Nice map. How does that apply to Russia's unprovoked war of aggression against Ukraine again? nt
stevenleser
Aug 2014
#71
Nope, we need NATO into Ukraine. Army, Air and Naval bases, immediately. nt
stevenleser
Aug 2014
#74
So according to you, Russia is allowed to engage in unprovoked wars of aggression
stevenleser
Aug 2014
#77
Translation: You are rubber stamping Russia's imperialistic unprovoked war of aggression
stevenleser
Aug 2014
#86
you do realize that would result in an actual real war in eastern europe?
Warren Stupidity
Aug 2014
#100
No it wouldn't. Putin and the Oligarchs have no intention of dying. They enjoy their lives too much
stevenleser
Aug 2014
#115
Just as Putin was certain we wouldnt attack his troops that invaded. Yes, certain. nt
stevenleser
Aug 2014
#120
I heard Russia increased social security 300% over the past few years. Perhaps Ukraine could do the
grahamhgreen
Aug 2014
#107