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marions ghost

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46. It should not be legal

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 08:39 AM

Aug 2014

Your point is the only logic that makes any sense--we have an infinite number of laws to protect Americans from death and injury, except when it comes to guns.

Because guns are untouchable in this society, "awesome consumer products" (Baum says), and they make a LOT of money for some people--the rest of us are held hostage. Even if we are not injured ourselves we are made to watch the carnage they wreak just as if we have no caring, no concern. This situation hurts all of us, if we would only see that. It numbs us to wanton killing and maiming. Fear and paranoia reign.

We must demand laws that stop this. There is no other way to deal with it. Just give us some laws with teeth that put some brakes on this--and yes, gun owners must ask for this too. This kind of insanity does not help their cause.

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Letting Kids Shoot Guns Is Good for Them--TIME magazine, Aug. 28, 2014 [View all] marions ghost Aug 2014 OP

I studied and taught marksmanship in summer camp many years ago, elleng Aug 2014 #1

I loved shooting .22s at summer camp. callous taoboy Aug 2014 #4

I was on the rifle team in ROTC... malthaussen Aug 2014 #7

Ear problem from shooting 22s indoors? elleng Aug 2014 #12

That's my speculation. malthaussen Aug 2014 #14

Ours were outdoors, elleng Aug 2014 #16

A 22 has a sound level sarisataka Aug 2014 #17

Ah, so. malthaussen Aug 2014 #18

Good luck with that sarisataka Aug 2014 #24

That doesn't surprise me. malthaussen Aug 2014 #29

Yes, the tables are ridiculous sarisataka Aug 2014 #30

Stipulate that this is true, for the hell of it. malthaussen Aug 2014 #2

Correct. elleng Aug 2014 #5

Bingo--on the mark marions ghost Aug 2014 #31

Damn...Whatever happened to playing paintball? Blue_Tires Aug 2014 #3

Never heard of it, when I studied and taught marksmanship. elleng Aug 2014 #6

I've never "played" paintball but know of ranges. I have, however, played laser tag. NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #8

"Criminal" marions ghost Aug 2014 #9

But it is *lots* of fun to fire full rock and roll. malthaussen Aug 2014 #15

That's probably what murderers say about taking a person's life. NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #20

Diff'rent strokes. malthaussen Aug 2014 #27

Wow. The line about murderers... IdaBriggs Aug 2014 #50

I'm confused (as usual, so bear with me) rock Aug 2014 #83

Actually, I don't get why people like to blow things up, beat up gays, torture animals... NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #85

Gotcha and agree. rock Aug 2014 #87

Apparently the new rules set 12 as the minimum age. nt tblue37 Aug 2014 #48

I got all that and much more from shooting a basketball BeyondGeography Aug 2014 #10

So did my brother, I think. elleng Aug 2014 #11

Yeah until they lose control and start spraying people with bullets. Rex Aug 2014 #13

Thanks for the tip about who Dan Baum is marions ghost Aug 2014 #19

Sad to see him doing damage control for the NRA. Rex Aug 2014 #21

He seems to be making it his personal mission marions ghost Aug 2014 #25

Last four paragraphs from that article: NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #23

We who choose to own firearms have a responsibility to our fellow citizens to be better custodians Rex Aug 2014 #28

nice rhetoric but marions ghost Aug 2014 #32

I've never even held an AR-15, I don't get the attraction except that our culture glorifies war. NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #39

Please tell me they faced a lot of jail time for doing that or at least something punitive. Rex Aug 2014 #40

Avoided jail time with plea deal, resitution fees TBD NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #41

The judge is probably flabbergasted that two grown men would be so shallow and stupid. Rex Aug 2014 #43

One element of the attraction hack89 Aug 2014 #47

I like mine as it is a modular weapon Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #52

It's pretty safe if you don't use an Uzi LittleBlue Aug 2014 #22

I shot my first .22 at camp when I was 9. I shot my first uzi at 24. NightWatcher Aug 2014 #26

Best analogy I have seen Generic Other Aug 2014 #44

It should not be legal marions ghost Aug 2014 #46

How are you held hostage? Subways Aug 2014 #49

You are held hostage if you consider yourself marions ghost Aug 2014 #53

While gun violence could technically happen at any time... Subways Aug 2014 #54

These laws are inadequate marions ghost Aug 2014 #60

In either case... Subways Aug 2014 #61

I'm talking about the psychological impact of underlying fear marions ghost Aug 2014 #65

I think you are projecting your personal fear of firearms... Subways Aug 2014 #68

That's what everybody says marions ghost Aug 2014 #76

It sounds like you have an inordinate amount of fear... Subways Aug 2014 #78

Ratchet down the personal marions ghost Aug 2014 #80

I'm just repeating what you said... Subways Aug 2014 #82

Of course marions ghost Aug 2014 #84

You left out the fine print. beevul Aug 2014 #89

How fast can a person go from just carrying to open firing? Marrah_G Aug 2014 #63

"because I don't know if it's a good guy or a bad guy" beevul Aug 2014 #66

And one anti-social behavior is flaunting guns marions ghost Aug 2014 #71

Thats your opinion, not empirical fact. beevul Aug 2014 #73

Read the "opinion" article in the OP marions ghost Aug 2014 #75

"I am responding to "opinion." " beevul Aug 2014 #77

And so is everybody else here marions ghost Aug 2014 #79

I live in a functional community. I don't share your fears. Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #55

Look at the dysfunctional communities marions ghost Aug 2014 #57

"I got mine" is Your narrative, Your stereotype. Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #91

I speak in general terms marions ghost Aug 2014 #92

Glad for the clarification. Guns are deck chairs Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #93

We are not talking about "disarming" people marions ghost Aug 2014 #98

"proliferation of unregulated guns" Lurks Often Aug 2014 #94

The "regulation" of guns in America is failing marions ghost Aug 2014 #95

Ah, the "sensible laws" approach Lurks Often Aug 2014 #96

It's common sense what needs to change marions ghost Aug 2014 #97

Laughable. Utterly laughable. beevul Aug 2014 #56

I want laws that work marions ghost Aug 2014 #58

Of course you do. beevul Aug 2014 #62

All I can say is marions ghost Aug 2014 #67

Oh, it matters. beevul Aug 2014 #69

I leave you with one word marions ghost Aug 2014 #72

Fine. Propose laws which attack criminality.... beevul Aug 2014 #74

Reader's Digest: I am Joe's Uzi-perforated heart, lungs, liver, and spleen pinboy3niner Aug 2014 #33

Not Getting Shot in the Head by an Uzi: The Best Medicine! Arugula Latte Aug 2014 #37

I can go along with that... pinboy3niner Aug 2014 #38

Oh, man, sorry about that. Arugula Latte Aug 2014 #45

Needs the pic ... GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #34

Thanks for posting that marions ghost Aug 2014 #90

"It's a terrible time to say this . . ." gratuitous Aug 2014 #35

Exactly, he should have been more honest and said Rex Aug 2014 #99

These gun humpers just can't help themselves, can they? Arugula Latte Aug 2014 #36

"Shooting a rifle accurately requires children to quiet their minds." LiberalElite Aug 2014 #42

quite the crock of shite. spanone Aug 2014 #51

TIME? I'd expect this in MAD. WinkyDink Aug 2014 #59

There might be some truth there, BUT shooting a gun is not the only way to achieve MH1 Aug 2014 #64

Firing Uzis at a hamburger joint DirkGently Aug 2014 #70

Let's try that with other weapons intaglio Aug 2014 #81

Yep. It's almost as good for them as shooting heroin. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #86

And not letting kids shoot guns is good for them...I can prove it, my great children have never... Tikki Aug 2014 #88