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MineralMan

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2. Many gun owners support strong gun controls.

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 01:29 PM

Aug 2014

I'm in that category. So, no. Mere ownership of firearms says nothing about political positions. As for 2nd amendment supporters, there are many interpretations of that amendment. I support the 2nd amendment, as written. We need official, organized, government-controlled militias, and bearing arms is part of that. I strongly oppose "shall issue" CCW and the current open carry nonsense. I also oppose laws that allow people to shoot and kill people simply because they feel "threatened" in some way, as in Florida and elsewhere. And yet, I own firearms.

So where do I fit in your characterization?

Individuals. I am an individual. If you want my opinion about something, just ask. I'll be happy to provide it.

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Bigotry is Bigotry and all Bigotry Needs to Be Confronted [View all] MineralMan Aug 2014 OP

Should that include bigotry against gun owners and second amendment supporters? beevul Aug 2014 #1

Many gun owners support strong gun controls. MineralMan Aug 2014 #2

Some do. beevul Aug 2014 #24

"There is only one interpretation which is historically accurate." MineralMan Aug 2014 #26

Its a fact. beevul Aug 2014 #33

Gun owners have made a decision to keep a deadly weapon muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #3

So you disagree with the OP? beevul Aug 2014 #18

What a lovely dichotomy you have made intaglio Aug 2014 #19

Such is bound to happen when people try to have it both ways. N/T beevul Aug 2014 #21

So you admit your point is a false dichotomy and therefore a logical flaw intaglio Aug 2014 #27

The poster I was responding to... beevul Aug 2014 #41

And your point remains a false dichotomy intaglio Aug 2014 #42

Uh huh. beevul Aug 2014 #46

You seem to be confused about what bigotry is. MineralMan Aug 2014 #23

By your definition there are perfect examples. NutmegYankee Aug 2014 #28

OK. I would disagree with any such statement. MineralMan Aug 2014 #32

Thats one definition, but not the only one. beevul Aug 2014 #29

There are many issues where it's fine to be intolerant of those who hold different opinions. Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2014 #55

Just curious passiveporcupine Aug 2014 #34

Interesting question. beevul Aug 2014 #36

I didn't say "fears" guns passiveporcupine Aug 2014 #47

Ok. beevul Aug 2014 #48

Sorry. But to conflate the choice of owner a gun to things that people do not have a choice of is madinmaryland Aug 2014 #61

No. Whats patently absurd, is to ascribe to me actions I never did. beevul Aug 2014 #65

Agreed! bvf Aug 2014 #22

I do regard religion as a decision on the part of the believer muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #30

Agreed again. 100% . n/t bvf Aug 2014 #50

I agree JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #37

Bigotry over what you are, rather than what you choose to do, should be held to a higher standard lumberjack_jeff Aug 2014 #31

Oh do please tell us the struggles of your people. NuclearDem Aug 2014 #35

That is NOT bigotry. It is an opinion. Gun owners made a "choice" to own guns, and it is madinmaryland Aug 2014 #62

Heres the textbook definition of bigotry for you, sport. beevul Aug 2014 #66

Petition to become a protected class under the Civil Rights Act BainsBane Aug 2014 #64

not all bigotry is equally the same. some bigotry is structural and causes much more destruction La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2014 #4

+1 n/t JTFrog Aug 2014 #5

I don't disagree. But bigotry is bigotry, and should not be tolerated. MineralMan Aug 2014 #6

Conflating structural and incredibly violent societal La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2014 #9

It's all a matter of degree, I think. MineralMan Aug 2014 #25

yes, but a stomach upset is not ebola. nor should it be called ebola. nt La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2014 #40

Both, however, are health disorders. MineralMan Aug 2014 #59

Yes. And may I add..... AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #57

Persons with mental disorders whose families call for help are shot regularly HereSince1628 Aug 2014 #63

Obesity NutmegYankee Aug 2014 #7

OK. I can agree with that, for sure. MineralMan Aug 2014 #11

K&R mcar Aug 2014 #8

OK. I will confront your anti-bigotry bigotry! ZombieHorde Aug 2014 #10

Confront away! MineralMan Aug 2014 #14

STOP! LOL boston bean Aug 2014 #15

Excellent OP, MineralMan. Kudos to you. n/t AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #12

Thanks for the kind words! MineralMan Aug 2014 #13

This does not mean albino65 Aug 2014 #16

Wolverines and Badgers tend to be MineralMan Aug 2014 #17

well said n/t albino65 Aug 2014 #20

Any wild animal can be agressive. beevul Aug 2014 #44

As a Buckeye fan I abhor wolverine, badger, and golden gopher fans!! madinmaryland Aug 2014 #52

OH albino65 Aug 2014 #53

You always have thoughtful OPs, MineralMan. brer cat Aug 2014 #38

well said - I am often amazed at how, here on DU, I can read posts DrDan Aug 2014 #39

Exactly. We should not tolerate intolerance. Louisiana1976 Aug 2014 #43

And arguing that bigotry is not bigotry is bigotry 4b5f940728b232b034e4 Aug 2014 #45

Treat people as human beings and individuals Aerows Aug 2014 #49

I love this JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #51

What do you mean by "bigotry"? Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2014 #54

I hesitate to create definitions. It's not really my MineralMan Aug 2014 #56

I think that you're at least close to a sufficient condition. Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2014 #67

Bigotry against a religion is interesting. MineralMan Aug 2014 #68

yep, I experienced some recently here stupidicus Aug 2014 #58

I'm afraid I can't relate your post to this thread MineralMan Aug 2014 #60

of course not stupidicus Sep 2014 #69