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intaglio

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42. And your point remains a false dichotomy

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 03:59 PM

Aug 2014

because you are conflating a group with a choice with groups that have no choice. You do not choose to be gay, you so not choose to be Jewish, you do not choose your gender identity.

You want us not to be bigoted against those with a choice like racists ... or gun owners

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Bigotry is Bigotry and all Bigotry Needs to Be Confronted [View all] MineralMan Aug 2014 OP

Should that include bigotry against gun owners and second amendment supporters? beevul Aug 2014 #1

Many gun owners support strong gun controls. MineralMan Aug 2014 #2

Some do. beevul Aug 2014 #24

"There is only one interpretation which is historically accurate." MineralMan Aug 2014 #26

Its a fact. beevul Aug 2014 #33

Gun owners have made a decision to keep a deadly weapon muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #3

So you disagree with the OP? beevul Aug 2014 #18

What a lovely dichotomy you have made intaglio Aug 2014 #19

Such is bound to happen when people try to have it both ways. N/T beevul Aug 2014 #21

So you admit your point is a false dichotomy and therefore a logical flaw intaglio Aug 2014 #27

The poster I was responding to... beevul Aug 2014 #41

And your point remains a false dichotomy intaglio Aug 2014 #42

Uh huh. beevul Aug 2014 #46

You seem to be confused about what bigotry is. MineralMan Aug 2014 #23

By your definition there are perfect examples. NutmegYankee Aug 2014 #28

OK. I would disagree with any such statement. MineralMan Aug 2014 #32

Thats one definition, but not the only one. beevul Aug 2014 #29

There are many issues where it's fine to be intolerant of those who hold different opinions. Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2014 #55

Just curious passiveporcupine Aug 2014 #34

Interesting question. beevul Aug 2014 #36

I didn't say "fears" guns passiveporcupine Aug 2014 #47

Ok. beevul Aug 2014 #48

Sorry. But to conflate the choice of owner a gun to things that people do not have a choice of is madinmaryland Aug 2014 #61

No. Whats patently absurd, is to ascribe to me actions I never did. beevul Aug 2014 #65

Agreed! bvf Aug 2014 #22

I do regard religion as a decision on the part of the believer muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #30

Agreed again. 100% . n/t bvf Aug 2014 #50

I agree JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #37

Bigotry over what you are, rather than what you choose to do, should be held to a higher standard lumberjack_jeff Aug 2014 #31

Oh do please tell us the struggles of your people. NuclearDem Aug 2014 #35

That is NOT bigotry. It is an opinion. Gun owners made a "choice" to own guns, and it is madinmaryland Aug 2014 #62

Heres the textbook definition of bigotry for you, sport. beevul Aug 2014 #66

Petition to become a protected class under the Civil Rights Act BainsBane Aug 2014 #64

not all bigotry is equally the same. some bigotry is structural and causes much more destruction La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2014 #4

+1 n/t JTFrog Aug 2014 #5

I don't disagree. But bigotry is bigotry, and should not be tolerated. MineralMan Aug 2014 #6

Conflating structural and incredibly violent societal La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2014 #9

It's all a matter of degree, I think. MineralMan Aug 2014 #25

yes, but a stomach upset is not ebola. nor should it be called ebola. nt La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2014 #40

Both, however, are health disorders. MineralMan Aug 2014 #59

Yes. And may I add..... AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #57

Persons with mental disorders whose families call for help are shot regularly HereSince1628 Aug 2014 #63

Obesity NutmegYankee Aug 2014 #7

OK. I can agree with that, for sure. MineralMan Aug 2014 #11

K&R mcar Aug 2014 #8

OK. I will confront your anti-bigotry bigotry! ZombieHorde Aug 2014 #10

Confront away! MineralMan Aug 2014 #14

STOP! LOL boston bean Aug 2014 #15

Excellent OP, MineralMan. Kudos to you. n/t AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #12

Thanks for the kind words! MineralMan Aug 2014 #13

This does not mean albino65 Aug 2014 #16

Wolverines and Badgers tend to be MineralMan Aug 2014 #17

well said n/t albino65 Aug 2014 #20

Any wild animal can be agressive. beevul Aug 2014 #44

As a Buckeye fan I abhor wolverine, badger, and golden gopher fans!! madinmaryland Aug 2014 #52

OH albino65 Aug 2014 #53

You always have thoughtful OPs, MineralMan. brer cat Aug 2014 #38

well said - I am often amazed at how, here on DU, I can read posts DrDan Aug 2014 #39

Exactly. We should not tolerate intolerance. Louisiana1976 Aug 2014 #43

And arguing that bigotry is not bigotry is bigotry 4b5f940728b232b034e4 Aug 2014 #45

Treat people as human beings and individuals Aerows Aug 2014 #49

I love this JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #51

What do you mean by "bigotry"? Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2014 #54

I hesitate to create definitions. It's not really my MineralMan Aug 2014 #56

I think that you're at least close to a sufficient condition. Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2014 #67

Bigotry against a religion is interesting. MineralMan Aug 2014 #68

yep, I experienced some recently here stupidicus Aug 2014 #58

I'm afraid I can't relate your post to this thread MineralMan Aug 2014 #60

of course not stupidicus Sep 2014 #69