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Gormy Cuss

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24. But the topic of the OP essay isn't about bicyclists, it's about race.
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 12:15 PM
Aug 2014

Turning this into a dump-on-cyclists thread is derailing the intent.

FWIW I agree that all road users should obey the rules for their own safety and that of others. I also know first hand that some drivers really, truly, don't want bicycles sharing their road space even though legally cyclists are required to be on the road in most cases.

But those rules need an overhaul to create smarter laws for road sharing, like making it legal for cyclists to roll stop at STOP signs before making a right turn and instituting minimum passing distances. CA will soon require cars to be no closer than 3 ft from cyclists when overtaking them and other states have similar laws.

There's also room for more extensive driver training on the rules of the road including understanding sharrow markings (which mean that if there's a cyclist present, the cyclist has claimed the lane because it's not wide enough for both the bike and a car) and why it's important to keep clear of the bike lanes.

A good read. The best explanation I've seen of white privilege. Arkansas Granny Aug 2014 #1
Really? After many of us have shared our pain and countless examples of things we warn out kids Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2014 #62
I'm sorry if my attempts at understanding don't live up to your expectations. Arkansas Granny Sep 2014 #68
You are ridiculous! You understand nothing! You insult and ridicule. Shame! Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2014 #71
Good read il_lilac Aug 2014 #2
I don't know why your complaining... ybbor Aug 2014 #3
He lost me at Heather MC Aug 2014 #4
Exactly. I'm baffled by this. If this is "the best explanation" of white privilege--not the personal Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2014 #63
K&R from a biker. nt freedom fighter jh Aug 2014 #5
good way to bring it to light pleinair Aug 2014 #6
Well said. And welcome to DU. Louisiana1976 Aug 2014 #7
thanks pleinair Aug 2014 #15
How does the fact that pretty much all cyclists ignore red lights Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #8
Do not know were you live TNNurse Aug 2014 #9
Definitely not in oregon bhikkhu Sep 2014 #70
I have friends who are cyclists but a lot of cyclists have become road Nazi's. bamademo Aug 2014 #10
Keep in mind, a bike is not a car bhikkhu Aug 2014 #16
And cyclists kill how many people per year? CreekDog Aug 2014 #31
How about the fact that they fail to keep right, RoccoR5955 Aug 2014 #11
+1. tarheelsunc Aug 2014 #12
Black people want to be considered real Americans bhikkhu Aug 2014 #17
This is a little different. RoccoR5955 Aug 2014 #21
But the topic of the OP essay isn't about bicyclists, it's about race. Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #24
Perhaps bicyclists need to be licensed drivers RoccoR5955 Aug 2014 #57
Again, the topic is race and privilege. Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #60
You wrote: "This is a little different"... Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2014 #64
In most places, roads are built for cars, and bikes are only tolerated as an afterthought bhikkhu Aug 2014 #67
By law they are allowed to be side by side each other on the road. Neoma Aug 2014 #18
Yup CreekDog Aug 2014 #40
that needs to change KT2000 Aug 2014 #53
I've been hit by a car before. Neoma Aug 2014 #54
I was hit by a car years ago. RoccoR5955 Aug 2014 #56
I was also ran into a by a car. nolabels Sep 2014 #75
I was walking with my accident. In the crosswalk. Neoma Sep 2014 #76
Sorry to hear about that misfortune you had nolabels Sep 2014 #77
Half of the car drivers do not use signals hfojvt Aug 2014 #30
That is BS CreekDog Aug 2014 #39
Aside from the fact that your assertion is false Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #22
Perhaps where you live it is common to see cyclists patiently waiting at red lights Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #23
And why again did you leap to law breaking in a thread about race privilege? Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #25
To point out how this is a problematic analogy. Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #27
How is it problematic? Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #32
Someone comes up with an analogy equating black people with persistent lawbreakers Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #38
No you were the one that decided to label black people as lawbreakers CreekDog Aug 2014 #41
Actually, you're the one who equated cyclists with persistent lawbreakers Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #42
say what? hfojvt Aug 2014 #46
Sometimes there is no choice eridani Aug 2014 #52
No, you did it to insert the idea that Black people break the law CreekDog Aug 2014 #33
. Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #34
Why do you insert yourself into discussions about race relations in the USA... CreekDog Aug 2014 #35
I do it every day bhikkhu Sep 2014 #69
Trying to suggest something about nonwhites under the radar? CreekDog Aug 2014 #28
There are many who do. hifiguy Aug 2014 #47
The same way an observation that "pretty much all Blacks are thugs and welfare queens" Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #49
I don't mind the post cleduc Aug 2014 #13
Thank you for a remarkable post, cleduc. Octafish Aug 2014 #50
Amazing. n/t Aerows Aug 2014 #55
Seeing the sadness in Armstrong's eyes will stay with me forever. Octafish Sep 2014 #72
Apt analogy. alphafemale Aug 2014 #14
that part of the analogy DID jump out at me hfojvt Aug 2014 #48
+ 1000 Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #19
The comments at the link are interesting and enlightening also. Sam1 Aug 2014 #20
yeah, there's a big hole in that analogy hfojvt Aug 2014 #26
No matter the post, you always respond to defend the white person or race CreekDog Aug 2014 #29
yeah, actually that is not true hfojvt Aug 2014 #44
Huh? Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #37
and that's how the analogy falls short hfojvt Aug 2014 #45
In our actual society the rate of poverty for whites is about one third of that of A/A or Latinos. Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #61
tell me something I don't know hfojvt Sep 2014 #73
No, the odds don't make any difference to the 13% Gormy Cuss Sep 2014 #74
It's a good analogy. Notwithstanding lame attempts to derailleur the thread CreekDog Aug 2014 #36
agree with both points. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #43
and this is not pinboy treestar Aug 2014 #58
K&R--This is best explanation I have seen on this topic. nt tblue37 Aug 2014 #51
Like getting drivers to recognize bikes as equals on the road treestar Aug 2014 #59
Semis? Where is this person biking? Hmmm. babylonsister Aug 2014 #65
It's legal to ride on the sidewalks in this city madville Aug 2014 #66
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