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cui bono

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85. I think it's more about the general poor treatment that certain issues gets from DU than
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 02:53 PM
Aug 2014

about them being treated poorly personally.

For example, redqueen was outspoken on feminist issues and there is a contingent of anti-feminism people on here who insist on going into threads and continue the backwards thinking about women and women's issues. This is really something that one would think would not be tolerated on DU, just as blatant racism is not (I believe it is not tolerated, though some people don't believe white privilege exists which is astounding, but you don't get to post pics of out and out racism on here and have them vigorously defended and not have the thread locked as has happened with the objectification of women OPs).

It's not just feminism, it's the aforementioned white privilege stances, the homophobic stances, the bullying. I swear when there are threads about bullying in the general society everyone thinks it's just awful, but I bet some of those same people are on here bullying other DUers because they said something they didn't like.

It gets tiring to be on a board that is so conservative at times when it purports to be a board about Democrats and presumably Democratic Party principles, presumably because too many on here are playing party politics and simply defending the actions of anyone who decided to put a "D" after their name rather than stand up for progressive principles.

That's another reason people get sick of DU. It gets tiring to have people ridicule well thought out posts that are about defending principles that we should all stand for just because by doing so one criticizes Dems who are in power. And because of that the person defending democratic principles gets treated to snark, being called names and a barrage of smilies while the posts have nothing of any substance in them at all. That comes down to whether you do politics as a "team player" or as a principled analyst. The team players tend to not respond to issues, just to the criticism. They attack the messenger - be it a reporter or a DUer - rather than discuss the issues. These methods are taken out of the GOP/Rove/Teabagger playbook. They are. And they are employed on here on a regular basis. There are things that should be completely disallowed but DU would rather be moderated by a malfunctioning jury system. So be it.

The conservative stances and the conservative methods are enough to drive any thoughtful poster from this site. Most people seem to deal with it in various ways - ignore function or standing up to it. Some choose to leave it.

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Yep - hard to argue with that nt el_bryanto Aug 2014 #1
agree yuiyoshida Aug 2014 #37
I'm so glad the admins re-opened the meta forum. morningfog Aug 2014 #2
Isn't it the general discussion forum? Seems so sometimes still_one Aug 2014 #6
If cat picture threads are welcome here, then I think "meta" threads are at least as valuable. nt Maven Aug 2014 #41
They did? caraher Aug 2014 #43
The ignore function makes DU so much more enjoyable NightWatcher Aug 2014 #3
It works for me newfie11 Aug 2014 #13
For whatever reason they leave they have every right to post a farewell message still_one Aug 2014 #4
I agree on both points. MineralMan Aug 2014 #19
I agree. BlueCaliDem Aug 2014 #31
It just doesn't seem very DU. Or at least not the way I remember DU being. Iris Aug 2014 #40
What does the Grace Baptist Church of Waterloo have to do with leaving DU? IADEMO2004 Aug 2014 #5
Good bye cruel world libodem Aug 2014 #11
I don't know what it (GBCW) means either - oh wait maybe I do - LiberalElite Aug 2014 #61
You got it - Good Bye Cruel World. NaturalHigh Aug 2014 #71
The Waterloo Tales betsuni Aug 2014 #67
Beauty. Well done. IADEMO2004 Aug 2014 #69
I don't post in those threads either aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2014 #7
Good points. MineralMan Aug 2014 #20
Many of them treat others poorly pintobean Aug 2014 #8
I can't really agree with you in recent examples. MineralMan Aug 2014 #21
I wasn't seeking your approval. /nt pintobean Aug 2014 #24
OK. You got my comment anyhow. MineralMan Aug 2014 #27
He never said you were. eom BlueCaliDem Aug 2014 #28
Freudian Slip. Ikonoklast Aug 2014 #46
The Recent Examples Make Me Disagree With You ProfessorGAC Aug 2014 #44
OK. we see it differently. MineralMan Aug 2014 #52
We Can Include One Another ProfessorGAC Aug 2014 #53
gotta have thick skin to survive in this cyber world madokie Aug 2014 #9
I don't even think lack of a comeback is the issue. winter is coming Aug 2014 #16
I think it helps to be old. I grew up in a different world and so I have a different CTyankee Aug 2014 #17
One of the perks of getting old madokie Aug 2014 #22
boy, ain't it the truth! Perspective is everything to me... CTyankee Aug 2014 #26
amen to that! Dyedinthewoolliberal Aug 2014 #49
Exactly madokie Aug 2014 #50
In the real world, too. Ineeda Aug 2014 #48
"I equate meanness as a repub characteristic" -- this right here! betsuni Aug 2014 #63
So, of course... pipi_k Aug 2014 #73
Did you get off at the wrong bus stop? betsuni Aug 2014 #74
I believe I'd have to go all Ernest T. Bass Heidi Aug 2014 #78
When they write a GBCW, it seems as though it often preempts any "vacation" or cooling off period.. hlthe2b Aug 2014 #10
Most write a GBCW thread for their friends, so they will know they weren't banned. Major Hogwash Aug 2014 #97
thank you for that...I've been here since inception and don't anticipate a GBCW exit, but... hlthe2b Aug 2014 #98
plus 1000 Liberal_in_LA Aug 2014 #12
I find and have found myself Sherman A1 Aug 2014 #14
Fair points there. MineralMan Aug 2014 #23
I took a similar break last year... NaturalHigh Aug 2014 #55
There's many online, and in life, who can dish it out but not take it. nt conservaphobe Aug 2014 #15
+1e12 ProfessorGAC Aug 2014 #45
How many were there? I saw 2. cui bono Aug 2014 #18
Not recently. Those two, though, I'll miss. MineralMan Aug 2014 #25
I hate to see good thinkers and outspoken feminists leave here. I feel sad and lonely. CTyankee Aug 2014 #30
Yes. Exactly. MineralMan Aug 2014 #33
I just found out that nadin has left. Her profile states she's msanthrope Aug 2014 #57
From what I understand, she scrambled her MineralMan Aug 2014 #60
She posted to Facebook yesterday tkmorris Aug 2014 #68
I saw that this morning. I was wondering why she hadn't MineralMan Aug 2014 #79
The OP here is guilty of the same incivility toward Nadin. SixString Aug 2014 #62
Bluntly...nadin could dish it out. Still, I wish she had not left.... msanthrope Aug 2014 #64
my favorite was the windmills treestar Aug 2014 #89
There was something delightfully Don Quixote-ish about her....and I loved her for that. msanthrope Aug 2014 #94
It's a two way.street. 99Forever Aug 2014 #29
Yes, but it's still sad for me. MineralMan Aug 2014 #34
Not necessarily. BlueCaliDem Aug 2014 #35
Unfortunately, they're usually people who think disagreement with a post, Warpy Aug 2014 #32
Perhaps. There is still a differece between MineralMan Aug 2014 #36
Again, A Point of Contention ProfessorGAC Aug 2014 #47
We all see things from different perspectives. MineralMan Aug 2014 #54
I think it may be a symptom of a few things... cascadiance Aug 2014 #38
Thank you for a well considered reply. MineralMan Aug 2014 #58
Very insightful, and true. redstatebluegirl Aug 2014 #70
I can empathize with those folks, TBH. AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #39
Free money! XemaSab Aug 2014 #82
There's a disturbing and growing increase in incivlity and tolerance here lately. ColesCountyDem Aug 2014 #42
I wonder why they mimi85 Aug 2014 #51
I can't say. Everyone has a different way MineralMan Aug 2014 #59
I don't either. mimi85 Aug 2014 #84
Ego. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2014 #66
Ha... mimi85 Aug 2014 #81
My own two cents on that is pipi_k Aug 2014 #75
Good way of dealing with them. mimi85 Aug 2014 #83
I've found that people are usually treated the way they treat others. NaturalHigh Aug 2014 #56
I do too, and I find it odd. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2014 #65
I don't think rq would leave DU because she was treated poorly as an individual. I think that the seaglass Aug 2014 #72
Well said. City Lights Aug 2014 #76
Agree completely with this assessment. cui bono Aug 2014 #86
I know, especially when you take into consideration, it's only the internet. nt valerief Aug 2014 #77
I agree get the red out Aug 2014 #80
I think it's more about the general poor treatment that certain issues gets from DU than cui bono Aug 2014 #85
There is some tendency to be over-snarky treestar Aug 2014 #87
Snark has always been part of DU threads. MineralMan Aug 2014 #92
This public service announcement brought to you by MineralMan! Rex Aug 2014 #88
Well, that seems clear from the OP, I think. MineralMan Aug 2014 #90
Yes and I sometimes choose to comment and sometimes create a headline Rex Aug 2014 #91
GBCW post > Manifesto Nevada Blue Aug 2014 #93
Or Opus SixString Aug 2014 #96
What they do not say is that they never... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Aug 2014 #95
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