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beevul

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68. Except that those "areas that have addressed gun violence through legislation"...

Sun Aug 31, 2014, 03:04 PM

Aug 2014

Except that those "areas that have addressed gun violence through legislation" haven't really done anything about gun violence other than "addressing" it.

Does this map indicate to you, that those places that have "addressed gun violence through legislation" have been successful in reducing it any significant way shape size or form?

http://billmoyers.com/2013/05/03/gun-violence-since-newtown/

But that's other states fault, right?

And for what its worth, the uzi in question was a fully automatic weapon, and there was no intent to assault and kill anyone.

The sandy hook rifle on the other hand, was semi-auto.

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Get rid of assault weapons [View all] SecularMotion Aug 2014 OP

Still trying to post about guns in GD (alerted and Locked) Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #1

Still meta-whining? SecularMotion Aug 2014 #2

Please explain Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #3

You aren't discussing the topic, you're discussing whether discussions of the topic are ok or not. Electric Monk Aug 2014 #48

OK Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #49

Now it's a meta-meta-discussion rock Aug 2014 #76

Alert it or quit whining. Why not just address the post and not try to shut down conversation? nt Logical Aug 2014 #57

I did, it was locked Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #61

LOL, even better. Let people discuss stuff. A kid killing an instructor is sort of a big story. nt Logical Aug 2014 #66

so would you be so nice to take back your whining comment? Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #67

You constantly whine about this stuff. Gets old. You misunderstand the big news part of the GD. nt Logical Aug 2014 #70

you can you the feature provided Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #73

LOL, use your own advice! nt Logical Aug 2014 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author greatauntoftriplets Aug 2014 #4

Another disingenuous attempt to conflate machine guns with so-called assault weapons. aikoaiko Aug 2014 #5

It didn't take long to find others who drank that particular kool-aid too. beevul Aug 2014 #8

Looks like I didn't get here in time. Aristus Aug 2014 #6

LOL. aikoaiko Aug 2014 #7

Want to ban something, define what you ban. Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #10

Those who drink Josh Sugarman's kool-aid are vague about definitions friendly_iconoclast Aug 2014 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author Kurska Aug 2014 #13

i'm for that spanone Aug 2014 #9

Why is this post in GD? We have 2 gun groups. nt Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #11

As a host I voted to leave because I consider this tragedy still in the news. aikoaiko Aug 2014 #15

Except that OP's posted article VScott Aug 2014 #39

I agree, it was locked once Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #44

My concern is the "news cycle" is pretty much whatever Eleanors38 Sep 2014 #78

SM got it unlocked Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #45

Pretty sure the Uzi is question was a semi-auto Kurska Aug 2014 #12

It was full auto. N/T beevul Aug 2014 #16

Source? n/t Kurska Aug 2014 #19

Several OPs, the video, and common sense. beevul Aug 2014 #26

just one Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #47

it was full auto Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #30

That crazy Kurska Aug 2014 #51

I have yet to see someone Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #52

I've seen grown adults struggle to handle a semi-automatic. Kurska Aug 2014 #56

You are wrong. Read more. nt Logical Aug 2014 #59

Wow, very polite conversation Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #69

2 people have already pointed that out Kurska Aug 2014 #75

Author of that nonsense should be writing for The Onion. VScott Aug 2014 #14

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #17

Why? There is a common lay understanding of what is meant. etherealtruth Aug 2014 #20

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #21

Just like in my example ... the legislation will define it etherealtruth Aug 2014 #23

So what you are saying is that we (citizens) voters cannot form an opinion or vote on something ... etherealtruth Aug 2014 #25

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #28

Yes, we should be able to count on our elected representatives to define and legislate it. etherealtruth Aug 2014 #29

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #32

The difference is in writing law sarisataka Aug 2014 #24

... and that is why we have elected officials .... etherealtruth Aug 2014 #27

If we only had elected officials sarisataka Aug 2014 #33

I know ... but is what we have etherealtruth Aug 2014 #34

Was the Sandy Hook rifle an "assault weapon" Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #35

I think it was a semi automatic weapon used to ASSAULT and KILL etherealtruth Aug 2014 #36

That wasn't the case with Sandy Hook hack89 Aug 2014 #40

Perhaps to some of us ... not strict enough! etherealtruth Aug 2014 #46

I don't need to push for anything hack89 Aug 2014 #53

Sea change, sea change etherealtruth Aug 2014 #55

The sea change came when the Supreme Court ruled hack89 Aug 2014 #62

The supremes interpret and re-intepret all the time etherealtruth Aug 2014 #64

Not as quickly as one would think hack89 Aug 2014 #71

Lets ee the change for CCW in the last couple of decades Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #65

the question remains Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #54

Except that those "areas that have addressed gun violence through legislation"... beevul Aug 2014 #68

Do you not consider the massacre of 20 children and 6 adults to be an assault? SecularMotion Aug 2014 #37

no it was murder Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #41

By that definition any gun is an assault weapon hack89 Aug 2014 #42

Yes I am sure it is Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #50

first define and rationalise Jeneral2885 Aug 2014 #22

Go read Heller nt hack89 Aug 2014 #43

who is Jeneral2885 Sep 2014 #80

Heller v DC IronGate Sep 2014 #81

It is the Supreme Court case that defines the right to keep and bear arms. nt hack89 Sep 2014 #82

FYI Rex Aug 2014 #18

Yes, I have an alert stalker SecularMotion Aug 2014 #31

Same here, good job getting the lock overturned Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #38

I assume it was Duck Hunter. nt Logical Aug 2014 #60

Yep I alert Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #72

I say no Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #58

Yes, please. Iggo Aug 2014 #77

Assault weapon not used, but we need to ban them! ManiacJoe Sep 2014 #79