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krawhitham

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29. Why do people think iCloud/The Cloud/Any Clouds are safe

Mon Sep 1, 2014, 07:51 AM

Sep 2014

These clouds allow you to upload you stuff to a glorified FTP server on the internet.

DO you think if someone asked Jennifer Lawrence if she would like to upload naked images of herself to the internet she would says YES?

I'm guessing she would say NO, but since it had the word CLOUD on it that is exactly what she did, she uploaded naked pictures of herself to the internet. And once anything is on the internet it will always be on the internet.

Yes there is more to Cloud computing than just storage, but 99% of time when people use the term CLOUD they are just talking about cloud storage not cloud computing. They want to be able to access their shit from any device anywhere in the world.

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If you click on Jennifer Lawrence's naked pictures, you're perpetuating her abuse [View all] alp227 Sep 2014 OP

Agreed, but the tough question is... TreasonousBastard Sep 2014 #1

There is nothing that can be done, really davidn3600 Sep 2014 #2

"what can be done about it?" CSStrowbridge Sep 2014 #6

Implement SOPA. joshcryer Sep 2014 #7

So do we take control of every site in the world or is this just a US thing? krawhitham Sep 2014 #21

As of *right now* the US controls the entire global internet DNS system. joshcryer Sep 2014 #22

But if an employee is abusing their position JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #26

My guess? joshcryer Sep 2014 #42

I'm not going there yet JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #48

I'm about 90% sure this was done by teenaged hackers. Chan790 Sep 2014 #63

After the fog cleared I think you are right. joshcryer Sep 2014 #143

I understand what you mean by "kiddie shit" rocktivity Sep 2014 #156

Some blamed it on a bruteforce exploit in the find my iphone feature, but you still need the email jakeXT Sep 2014 #64

Nonsense article. NONSENSE authoritarian 'solution.' appal_jack Sep 2014 #67

+1. n/t Laelth Sep 2014 #71

I'm not advocating it, Christ. joshcryer Sep 2014 #141

Yeah, we want INTERNET WORLD POLICE, who will remove any content that people find offensive!!! MADem Sep 2014 #97

SOPA is a corporate monstrosity LittleBlue Sep 2014 #99

I sure as hell don't want it. Dr. Strange Sep 2014 #100

I avoid having nude photos taken of myself marshall Sep 2014 #52

The only porn on my phone is food porn AngryAmish Sep 2014 #60

I am tempted to post nude photos of myself... TreasonousBastard Sep 2014 #126

You realize you'd be risking charges... pinboy3niner Sep 2014 #132

Good one! TreasonousBastard Sep 2014 #135

Do you have a link? zappaman Sep 2014 #3

Brave. joshcryer Sep 2014 #8

You think this is funny? pnwmom Sep 2014 #12

I thought it was hilarious. Jester Messiah Sep 2014 #13

"Get the stick out"!?! chervilant Sep 2014 #27

+100!! theHandpuppet Sep 2014 #28

Some of us have other things to worry about than a multi multi millionaire phil89 Sep 2014 #89

Belittling my post (and Jennifer Lawrence) chervilant Sep 2014 #98

You "would prefer" ...? Jester Messiah Sep 2014 #115

But we all have the opportunity (and the obligation) to critique it... LanternWaste Sep 2014 #157

I would be interested in what Jennifer Lawrence has to say about it... TreasonousBastard Sep 2014 #134

Hacking is a felony. IMO it's like someone breaking in to your home. L0oniX Sep 2014 #102

I don't believe it was hacking for a moment. nt mimi85 Sep 2014 #149

The Cave called Kalidurga Sep 2014 #66

My keyboard, my keyboard, ... oldhippie Sep 2014 #72

Of course it does... as we all illustrate our character in one way or another. LanternWaste Sep 2014 #158

Just a heads up, some bozo alerted on this comment. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #38

two leaves dsc Sep 2014 #40

0-7 now. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #41

I was number 7 dsc Sep 2014 #44

Not funny, zappaman theHandpuppet Sep 2014 #30

Here's a "link" you might consider: chervilant Sep 2014 #33

You support arresting someone who "views" photos? Sharing them I understand, but there..... Logical Sep 2014 #127

Suggestions from who? BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #136

I suspect that would involve arresting a large portion of the planet. Warren DeMontague Sep 2014 #145

C:\My Pictures\ conservaphobe Sep 2014 #53

Bwah! bigwillq Sep 2014 #59

... F4lconF16 Sep 2014 #122

And Craig's List. What a big pile of crap about nothing. mimi85 Sep 2014 #148

Search twitter bigwillq Sep 2014 #58

Jury results: tammywammy Sep 2014 #94

This is disgusting. F4lconF16 Sep 2014 #120

Privacy Vine Gatherer Sep 2014 #4

Prosecution for those who view the photos? Uh no LittleBlue Sep 2014 #5

Everyone uploading them is infringing copyright. joshcryer Sep 2014 #9

That would invoke the Streisand effect. Jester Messiah Sep 2014 #14

Oh the pics aren't going anywhere. joshcryer Sep 2014 #15

...and dont forget the hacker davidn3600 Sep 2014 #16

Looks like one was already partially dox'd. joshcryer Sep 2014 #17

At this point we have no proof this was not done by the NSA AngryAmish Sep 2014 #39

At this point, we have no proof you or I didn't do it. hedgehog Sep 2014 #95

You pose some good questions LittleBlue Sep 2014 #50

I know something about copyright and am a lawyer hifiguy Sep 2014 #164

Thanks for that LittleBlue Sep 2014 #168

And to those people in Belize or Iran uploading them? TampaAnimusVortex Sep 2014 #154

Obviously that's quite impractical. I can understand civil or criminal penalties for uploading nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #10

No, that isn't "kind of silly," hifiguy Sep 2014 #165

No way to enforce it anyhow, realistically. And I'm not all that interested in Ms. Lawrence's nudes nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #169

If the headline is there that the image was stolen, MH1 Sep 2014 #43

Excellent rant! freshwest Sep 2014 #11

Who is Jennifer Lawrence? Quantess Sep 2014 #18

I didn't know either... KansDem Sep 2014 #20

She won the academy award for best actress in 2013 JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #24

Katniss Everdeen Fla_Democrat Sep 2014 #25

And Mystique too! NuclearDem Sep 2014 #62

Hell if I know. roody Sep 2014 #51

She is a young Academy award winner who is willing to laugh at herself. pnwmom Sep 2014 #68

Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #79

Unbelievable. Shame on you. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #80

Your post is an example of the kind of misogyny we've been talking about lately. pnwmom Sep 2014 #81

And a very well-deserved hide. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #82

Oh good. Thanks. Someone above alerted on me, actually. pnwmom Sep 2014 #84

That poster is just plain old horrible. Codeine Sep 2014 #121

You know her personally I take it. nt mimi85 Sep 2014 #150

I was wondering the same thing. hifiguy Sep 2014 #166

All I know is, I don't care about her boobs. Quantess Sep 2014 #167

can someone tell me why people have nekked pics on their phones Skittles Sep 2014 #19

Sexting krispos42 Sep 2014 #23

Sexting, of course. Codeine Sep 2014 #34

Shoot. cwydro Sep 2014 #47

Exactly n/t PasadenaTrudy Sep 2014 #56

Putting the pictures on her phone was like putting them on her computer. That isn't the same pnwmom Sep 2014 #70

I hesitated to say Skittles Sep 2014 #138

that's just as inane as saying if you have nice things in your home, you deserve to have them stolen La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #163

Also, some people use it as their only camera. n/t pnwmom Sep 2014 #69

I'll explain, and again this isnt judging. I think many people dont totally understand Warren DeMontague Sep 2014 #113

Yes, this. kcr Sep 2014 #119

well even photos on my computer hfojvt Sep 2014 #130

Yes, but assuming you have a router and a firewall and some decent malware protection Warren DeMontague Sep 2014 #133

a what and a who? hfojvt Sep 2014 #137

I take all my nude selfies with a silver chloride daguerreotype Warren DeMontague Sep 2014 #139

You modernists and all your toys... EX500rider Sep 2014 #161

Why do people think iCloud/The Cloud/Any Clouds are safe krawhitham Sep 2014 #29

Just got a MacBook recently as a gift from my son. Now I find elias49 Sep 2014 #32

Good to know. Thanks. n/t Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2014 #57

Cloud computing in general.. sendero Sep 2014 #37

+1 freshwest Sep 2014 #144

I agree JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #49

It was supposed to be secure. Lots of people are using programs that promise pnwmom Sep 2014 #73

She's being embarrassed, not abused BeyondGeography Sep 2014 #31

Really? chervilant Sep 2014 #36

Good luck prosecuting viewers. Hosnon Sep 2014 #46

Prosecuting? chervilant Sep 2014 #61

The hacker victimized her by breaking into her data and dumping it into the open internet. pnwmom Sep 2014 #90

I doubt she's even embarrassed. mimi85 Sep 2014 #151

I wouldn't use that analogy myself, but she's still the victim of a crime. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #152

i ve no idea who most of these hacked celebrities are GusBob Sep 2014 #35

Wouldn't that hold true if you post whistler162 Sep 2014 #45

If an only if "free publicity" was the implicit goal. I imagine many prophets will allege it was... LanternWaste Sep 2014 #159

Not drawing attention to them might have been a better tactic to avoid drawing attention to them. CentralMass Sep 2014 #54

Yup. nt cwydro Sep 2014 #77

That's not the point. F4lconF16 Sep 2014 #123

This piece tells you where to get them and which ones are real and fake. NYC Liberal Sep 2014 #142

Whoever is responsible for this hack is going to spend some time in the Graybar Hotel. Baitball Blogger Sep 2014 #55

That is one reason why I'm not interested in searching out the pictures mythology Sep 2014 #65

Do you even know if Jennifer Lawrence gives a shit? randome Sep 2014 #74

This is a flagrant violation of privacy, Lawrence's rep said bigwillq Sep 2014 #75

And it will always occur. randome Sep 2014 #91

This is victim blaming. Just because the i-cloud turned out to be hackable pnwmom Sep 2014 #92

I'm not blaming Lawrence. I'm saying there is no privacy on the Internet. randome Sep 2014 #96

So therefore we should just sit down and shut up about it? F4lconF16 Sep 2014 #125

'Raped'? Really? randome Sep 2014 #153

I agree with you (nt) bigwillq Sep 2014 #105

Agreed Gothmog Sep 2014 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Sep 2014 #78

Don't get it ... Poor celebrity strips and takes pictures. Good Lord. Kind of like if you don't libdem4life Sep 2014 #83

Exactly what crime did Jennifer Lawrence commit? NuclearDem Sep 2014 #87

Get real. It's no crime, sheesh. Just obsessed with their bodies, get paid for same libdem4life Sep 2014 #109

So you admit your robbery analogy was full of shit? NuclearDem Sep 2014 #110

Well, it was the first thing that came to mind. Others on here have better analogies, I'll libdem4life Sep 2014 #112

Photos like this are often leaked intentionally, this does not appear to be the case at all here. tritsofme Sep 2014 #111

Not arguing that. Just questioning all these nude selfies. First nipples, and a slippery slope libdem4life Sep 2014 #114

Are you talking about her nude beach pictures? Reter Sep 2014 #85

Even if Lawrence went out publicly nude, alp227 Sep 2014 #93

I disagree, anyone nude in public is free to photograph. And legal to post. You sound like the... Logical Sep 2014 #129

From what I saw, they weren't at the beach. bigwillq Sep 2014 #106

Someone on my twitter feed retweeted them Blue_Adept Sep 2014 #86

Does the OP give the impression they'd blame someone for something out of their control? kcr Sep 2014 #116

Not in the OP Blue_Adept Sep 2014 #117

People are saying that those who accidently see it even if they didn't mean to are to blame? kcr Sep 2014 #118

Who? Mama Harper? itsrobert Sep 2014 #88

Are there any celebrities that don't have naked pictures on line? L0oniX Sep 2014 #101

Snowden: NSA employees routinely pass around intercepted nude photos jakeXT Sep 2014 #103

Made me remember the photo developing shop employees passing around personal pictures... L0oniX Sep 2014 #107

Another reason to be thankful you're not a young, beautiful, rich, famous, starlet. Kablooie Sep 2014 #104

And once again DU informs me of something Blue_In_AK Sep 2014 #108

The more articles people write and post about it, the more people who didn't know anything of it before NYC Liberal Sep 2014 #124

See my reply #123. nt F4lconF16 Sep 2014 #128

best way to get someone to look at something, is to tell them not to look at it. Warren DeMontague Sep 2014 #140

This message was self-deleted by its author ecstatic Sep 2014 #162

Why bother. Just go to Google images, type in "naked" MineralMan Sep 2014 #131

It's control. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #146

What a bunch of BS! nt mimi85 Sep 2014 #147

Agreed. No ifs, ands, or buts. eom BlueCaliDem Sep 2014 #155

Your post about it is helping to propagate the abuse. nt ChisolmTrailDem Sep 2014 #160