I think the President and SOS Kerry... (Reply #36)

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Mon Sep 1, 2014, 02:54 PM

YvonneCa (10,117 posts)

36. I think the President and SOS Kerry...

...have just concluded that the media is mostly useless (very contrived conflict oriented) and just decided to get the job done despite them. They use the media as a tool as needed...like Kerry's OpEd...but expect media to set up conflict. Personally, I don't get angry at the media too much any more... I just find other ways to get real information and turn off the TV crap.

The options in the ME...post GWB...have always been difficult. Every situation/decision requires choosing the least bad option. There is no 'good' way to restabilize Iraq and it's neighbors. I believe they are in the midst of a Sunni/Shia civil war. I am SO glad the President brought our troops out when he did. And I am confident he will remain a minimalist where boots are concerned.

I am very glad we have Obama, Biden, Kerry and Hagel making the judgements required.

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72 replies	Author	Time	Post
Is anyone else angry that the media is ignoring the real progress made against ISIS [View all]	karynnj	Sep 2014	OP
It irritates me a bit, but I'm so used to being a "news digger" that I expect it.	MADem	Sep 2014	#1
I cannot see it as anything but racism. PBO will always be illegimate for not obeying them.	freshwest	Sep 2014	#20
Oh, hell yes, that too! Yes We Tan! Who's that on the GOLF course?	MADem	Sep 2014	#21
Good analysis of the last couple of weeks	flamingdem	Sep 2014	#2
Any announcement made of a successful mission is mostly met with silence.	TwilightGardener	Sep 2014	#3
Wasn't Obama who said "Assad must go"?	former9thward	Sep 2014	#13
He did, and that was his fault for listening to the dumbasses in	TwilightGardener	Sep 2014	#14
Well I agree (I think) with you that we should not intervene in Syria.	former9thward	Sep 2014	#27
If Assad were to go...	YvonneCa	Sep 2014	#41
I have been to Syria three times.	former9thward	Sep 2014	#46
One, of many, skills GWB lacked was...	YvonneCa	Sep 2014	#47
First of all I don't have alot of original ideas of my own to stop Isis....	wercal	Sep 2014	#4
Putin and Assad let them flourish. It was their strategy to defeat the "good" rebels	TwilightGardener	Sep 2014	#5
It's Putin's fault!	CJCRANE	Sep 2014	#8
Actually, since Putin has been propping up, supplying, and advising the	TwilightGardener	Sep 2014	#9
But who supported the rebels in the first place?	CJCRANE	Sep 2014	#11
Sunni Arabs, mostly. But I noticed a while back that the same hysterical Russian	TwilightGardener	Sep 2014	#12
But even the official reports say that other rebel groups joined ISIS.	CJCRANE	Sep 2014	#15
ISIS served the purposes of Assad, Putin, and Iran (friend of Assad). To a point.	TwilightGardener	Sep 2014	#17
It wasn't even called ISIS back then.	CJCRANE	Sep 2014	#18
Assorted bad guys, left over from the good old days of AQ in Iraq, who saw	TwilightGardener	Sep 2014	#19
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^	Peacetrain	Sep 2014	#34
Great post Twilight Gardener. n/t	truedelphi	Sep 2014	#31
"yet" ??	Rhinodawg	Sep 2014	#6
Our chicken sh*t media has a ton of	Wellstone ruled	Sep 2014	#7
Today's MSM is almost worse than it was in the Bush era.	CJCRANE	Sep 2014	#10
One reason I don't care that much is that	Doctor_J	Sep 2014	#16
------	heaven05	Sep 2014	#26
is that good or bad?	Doctor_J	Sep 2014	#28
They get better ratings	Mr.Bill	Sep 2014	#22
a thousand recs for this OP.	Voice for Peace	Sep 2014	#23
Progress And The Middle East Is An Oxymoron	cantbeserious	Sep 2014	#24
thank you for the sanity	heaven05	Sep 2014	#25
DiFi's reaction was not knee-jerk	Doctor_J	Sep 2014	#30
can't disagree	heaven05	Sep 2014	#33
In your post, you claim that "We never had Iraq." ??:??	truedelphi	Sep 2014	#29
I know that and it is poor wording - I meant they were not ours to lose - they were independent	karynnj	Sep 2014	#37
are you really so smitten the you accuse the media of siding with ISIS?	MisterP	Sep 2014	#32
Of course not, where did you get that insane idea?	karynnj	Sep 2014	#35
And are you so against reality.. that you accuse karyn of that?	Cha	Sep 2014	#53
I think the President and SOS Kerry...	YvonneCa	Sep 2014	#36
Agreed	karynnj	Sep 2014	#38
And...	YvonneCa	Sep 2014	#39
I agree with you	War Horse	Sep 2014	#40
And amazingly, it's one of many...	YvonneCa	Sep 2014	#43
"Who lost Syria?" or "who lost Iraq?"	Veilex	Sep 2014	#42
You might want to reread the OP...	YvonneCa	Sep 2014	#44
Just reacting to the title...	Veilex	Sep 2014	#55
I have done that myself...	YvonneCa	Sep 2014	#57
No worries... I may have deserved it. At least a little. This time. ;)	Veilex	Sep 2014	#60
...	YvonneCa	Sep 2014	#63
That was my point	karynnj	Sep 2014	#50
Noted... pardon me while I go read	Veilex	Sep 2014	#56
...	YvonneCa	Sep 2014	#58
It's not just the media, pundits and politicians carry on	cheapdate	Sep 2014	#45
Deliberately lying. Side of given issue...	YvonneCa	Sep 2014	#48
I do think some of the cheap shots are clearly dishonest	karynnj	Sep 2014	#54
This should be Trending on the Home Page and high on the Great Page. XP'd it to get more K&R's.	freshwest	Sep 2014	#49
yes	tazkcmo	Sep 2014	#51
The "media"'s MO has only gotten exponentially worse since I dropped it in 2002.. Thank	Cha	Sep 2014	#52
Great thread, karynnj! Thank you. n/t	YvonneCa	Sep 2014	#59
Thank you and others who joined the discussion nt	karynnj	Sep 2014	#62
You can't be serious...	sendero	Sep 2014	#61
Excellent post, thank you	The Blue Flower	Sep 2014	#64
thank you for your spot on perspective	hopemountain	Sep 2014	#65
I'm sure the parents of Steven Sotloff are very happy with the real progress that has been made.	egduj	Sep 2014	#66
Idiotic cheap shot	karynnj	Sep 2014	#67
True	BKH70041	Sep 2014	#68
What would you recommend Obama do in the Middle East?	karynnj	Sep 2014	#69
Something other than what's he's doing now.	BKH70041	Sep 2014	#70
Note that the same "he's too weak" was NOT made of GWB when beheadings happened then	karynnj	Sep 2014	#71
Thanks for explaining "the real world" to him, karyn. "Obama is weak" is a republicon meme	Cha	Oct 2014	#72

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