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219. I understand where you're coming from, but that's not what Discussionist is from what I've seen.

Mon Sep 1, 2014, 07:30 PM

Sep 2014

There's nothing wrong with a good debate with the other side, Thom Hartmann does it all the time, but that site seems to have devolved into a cesspool of shit flinging hatred. And it is run by the same owners/admins of DU. And there are people who post there talking about running certain members off of DU. So there is reason to complain about it over here.

If it were merely civil discussions from all points of view then fine, but as it isn't just that, and as the admins' stance is to blame the victim and to consider having a sockpuppet a far worse offense than threatening rape and posting vile and disturbing shit, then yes, I feel it should be shut down.

I certainly am not going to contribute any more money to DU knowing that the people getting it also "run" a site such as that. Their hands off approach to running sites seems to me a way to absolve themselves of any responsibility so that they can just reap the benefits. And they must be making money off DU or they wouldn't have started another site. So they get another site open to all, announce it on DU getting DUers interested as well as anti-DUers. Let it be a free for all fuckfest and clickathon and watch the money roll in. I can't see any other reason for doing things the way they do since they aren't that concerned about certain (possibly several) progressive values.

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Leave Discussionist Alone. [View all] sabrina 1 Sep 2014 OP

I get that it allows all points of view. I don't care for that but it is what it is. hrmjustin Sep 2014 #1

Exactly right, hrmjustin kcr Sep 2014 #5

The only way to solve these issues are to discuss them. hrmjustin Sep 2014 #9

You can't change stupid. L0oniX Sep 2014 #18

No you can't and that is why I post there less. hrmjustin Sep 2014 #21

It may not be their fault. Example: lead poisoning can cause one to become stupid. L0oniX Sep 2014 #26

No but you can give it a different room to play in. Think of it as the junk room. n/t A Simple Game Sep 2014 #112

You can run the conservatives noses in the facts Gothmog Sep 2014 #116

But you can change ignorance. I never assume people to be stupid, ignorant, yes. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #207

I have noticed that many people tend to not admit it when they are wrong. L0oniX Sep 2014 #213

Yes but you can run them off their positions and even their own threads Gothmog Sep 2014 #300

Do you have an example of a conservative Control-Z Sep 2014 #257

Here's a link to an OP I posted to correct a right wing wrong assumption about Liberals. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #313

i have to say here that people, especially those with extreme right wing views and misogynists tend locdlib Sep 2014 #350

They are willfully ignorant/stupid onecaliberal Sep 2014 #150

The stupid over there is truly stunning amuse bouche Sep 2014 #309

DU is "without that place." former9thward Sep 2014 #14

Free Republic is owned by different people, isn't marketed here kcr Sep 2014 #24

and crimes are being committed against people rbrnmw Sep 2014 #119

Apparently it's just so much fun to go over there and argue with RWers kcr Sep 2014 #123

and they would rather hurt us than acknowledge a crime rbrnmw Sep 2014 #136

I think the truth is they don't care that someone was threatened with rape kcr Sep 2014 #140

yes very telling rbrnmw Sep 2014 #146

Yep despite it all I still don't want to leave yet kcr Sep 2014 #148

I know rbrnmw Sep 2014 #151

It's all about the money, sadly enough. Maybe mimi85 Sep 2014 #295

omg. n/t. LeftOfWest Sep 2014 #297

That post was hidden 7-0. So apparently at least the RWers on that jury totodeinhere Sep 2014 #156

I just love how much significance is being attached to that one jury result kcr Sep 2014 #158

It was 4 unanimous juries creeksneakers2 Sep 2014 #163

The poster was banned for having a sock. kcr Sep 2014 #166

There were four offensive posts creeksneakers2 Sep 2014 #251

THe reason given was being a sock kcr Sep 2014 #254

What you THINK is not relevant. The FACT is that those posts were hidden sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #240

But I'm sure you think your thoughts totally are relevant kcr Sep 2014 #241

I stated the facts, not what I think. I KNOW, I don't THINK that those juries unanimously hid those sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #245

Oh, you didn't tell me you personally know each jury member and why they voted. kcr Sep 2014 #247

I read the comments of the jurors. It was pretty obvious that some of them were sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #288

Conservatives are human beings, too. You aren't telling me anything I don't already know. kcr Sep 2014 #308

I agree, I have family and friends who are Conservatives also. Not the Rush Limbaugh kind sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #310

You seem to think those objecting are objecting to disagreement kcr Sep 2014 #319

You ARE aware, are you not, that four Discussionist Juries voted 7-0 to hide those posts? sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #242

Ask EarlG. Oh, wait. Don't. He thinks the victim should have shut up about it. n/t kcr Sep 2014 #243

I asked you. How does it 'hurt us' to have four juries vote unanimously to hide the attacker's posts sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #250

The votes themselves don't hurt. But of course you know that's not my point. kcr Sep 2014 #253

Are you a member there? Have you participated on Discussionist? sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #255

Nope and I don't care to kcr Sep 2014 #258

No, you don't 'know enough' if you are not a member. Just as anyone criticizing this site sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #291

Wow. I can't posibly know enough about Discussionist kcr Sep 2014 #307

Are you seriously arguing that someone who is not a member of a site knows all there is to know sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #312

For someone who claims to love to argue kcr Sep 2014 #322

I believe you said you knew 'enough' to judge the site. Am I wrong, was that someone else? n/t sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #325

Yes. Enough. kcr Sep 2014 #326

+1 LiberalLoner Sep 2014 #171

The attacker was banned pretty quickly from Discussionist, faster than many of his cohorts sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #209

DU isn't the same as Discussionist kcr Sep 2014 #215

You'll have to discuss that with the admins. A lot of people won't agree with you, but you're free sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #267

And another member continues to use the site to urge retribution against DUers BainsBane Sep 2014 #263

Link to the thread and I will alert on it. Seeing as how this last troll was quickly banned sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #266

I have alerted on all those threads BainsBane Sep 2014 #268

Well, as I have said before in this thread I have been threatened online more than once. Simply for sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #275

If you click on the links BainsBane Sep 2014 #280

I checked his profile on Discussionist and he is not active, his PPs have been revoked. So he is sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #292

She's talking about galileosghost, not The Doctor cyberswede Sep 2014 #340

Okay, thanks, I obviously misunderstood. You are correct, he is still active. The Doctor is not. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #341

Not any more Gothmog Sep 2014 #380

Well deserved, no doubt. cyberswede Sep 2014 #387

He got his 5th hide today Gothmog Sep 2014 #379

two and a half days BainsBane Sep 2014 #388

The jerk is back Gothmog Sep 2014 #399

I saw BainsBane Sep 2014 #400

Plenty of sites do that pintobean Sep 2014 #6

Exactly. We don't need DI to turn into that. hrmjustin Sep 2014 #11

How many others have common ownership? Gormy Cuss Sep 2014 #134

Do you have a problem with this site, then? Laelth Sep 2014 #13

I have never heard of it. hrmjustin Sep 2014 #15

It is old. Laelth Sep 2014 #19

Ok but my point was I don't want DI turning into that and it has. hrmjustin Sep 2014 #31

Oh, DU admins started that site, too? kcr Sep 2014 #28

I don't think they did. Laelth Sep 2014 #32

Okay, then. kcr Sep 2014 #33

does the owner of that website post at discussionist? boston bean Sep 2014 #39

I don't know. Laelth Sep 2014 #43

you're the one who brought it up. boston bean Sep 2014 #46

You way overestimate me, then. Laelth Sep 2014 #67

wont happen again, promise you that. nt boston bean Sep 2014 #74

yes she does LadyHawkAZ Sep 2014 #139

If you click on your link, mimi85 Sep 2014 #298

It wasn't private when I checked it a couple of days ago. Laelth Sep 2014 #314

Totally agree! nt mimi85 Sep 2014 #391

I remember that. I alerted on a post that said, "Do you know XXX? What a bitch!" roguevalley Sep 2014 #82

If you haven't been there in awhile and are not now appalled at the level of misogyny, racism and hlthe2b Sep 2014 #2

Well, then that means more of us need to go there to change that. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #4

I question that line of thinking. Chan790 Sep 2014 #48

Agreed. There have always been websites that existed to cause DU grief kcr Sep 2014 #55

I post on Discussionist and I don't post right-wing views. Discussionist doesn't look like a failure Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #94

Oh, I guess I was mistaken. I thought Discussionist had more than one poster n/t kcr Sep 2014 #98

You were mistaken, no problem, we all have been at one time or another. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #317

They should call it The Sabrinaist, then. Truth in advertising n/t kcr Sep 2014 #323

Why would they do that, or even suggest such a thing? See that is the difference I have found sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #328

Because you're the only member, as you said n/t kcr Sep 2014 #331

She did not say that. cwydro Sep 2014 #369

Perhaps you should reread this snarky subthread n/t kcr Sep 2014 #371

You're awfully hostile to Sabrina, imo. I guess I understand why .... polly7 Sep 2014 #329

You and Sabrina are such sweeties kcr Sep 2014 #330

Awww ............ thank you!!! polly7 Sep 2014 #332

Lol! That was so sweet! sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #359

And unexpected!! polly7 Sep 2014 #366

Yes, that is the best kind, the unexpected. Nice to see the hugs all around! sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #381

There have been some successes over there Gothmog Sep 2014 #122

And, incredibly, I question that line of thinking. That is what makes it an interesting sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #145

How is putting all the nuts in one basket and getting them off DU a failed experiment? Demeter Sep 2014 #299

More DUers over there means more DUers on the juries. drm604 Sep 2014 #306

Why? I don't feel an overwhelming need to convert the infidels, so to speak... CTyankee Sep 2014 #64

Unfortunately impossible LondonReign2 Sep 2014 #81

Well the right-wingers on Discussionist will never change my thinking so we're even. Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #99

With all due respect, then what is the point? LondonReign2 Sep 2014 #103

You should consider a more fertile ground for change demwing Sep 2014 #129

Don't tell me what to do. JTFrog Sep 2014 #3

Lol! sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #10

Yea, it's real funny. JTFrog Sep 2014 #25

So you think that shutting down one site will eliminate the 'scum' from this country? sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #72

Yea, DU has been ignoring FOX and Limbaugh for years. JTFrog Sep 2014 #76

No, you just made my point. DU attacking Rush, and other Democratic sites also, had sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #83

Why can't it be exposed here at it's sister site. Why are you trying to squash boston bean Sep 2014 #132

Not following you. 'why are you trying to quash dissent and discussion sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #149

Leave Discussionist Alone is the title of your OP. boston bean Sep 2014 #152

Yes, you did. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #159

huh, my reading of this is you want everyone here to leave discussionist alone boston bean Sep 2014 #160

Wrong, I deliberately did say this was a response to Trumad's OP. Seriously, sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #161

Certainly not I as I am happy to hear anyone's opinion on that cess pit. boston bean Sep 2014 #164

No, that's what I thought. Do you want this site shut down also, aren't there 'mysoginist assholes' sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #290

I never said to shut down discussionist. boston bean Sep 2014 #301

Good, then we are in agreement. I was getting the impression you wanted the site shut down. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #320

No, I don't agree. Let me be clear. boston bean Sep 2014 #333

Wrong again. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #389

I think I was pretty clear. boston bean Sep 2014 #394

Fine. But. You want to tell EVERYONE ELSE what to do. alphafemale Sep 2014 #137

I guess the fact that I stick to my principles is how that works in my head. JTFrog Sep 2014 #168

Those are already dealt with...quickly. alphafemale Sep 2014 #174

I agree leftstreet Sep 2014 #7

I agree, it was taken care of pretty quickly there. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #390

My only real accomplishment on Discussionist is to ensure that some right-wing hosehead Aristus Sep 2014 #8

Me too ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2014 #17

Skinner said DU usernames were reserved on Discussionist for the same people on DU. former9thward Sep 2014 #20

They merely add a space or a "." or a underscore or similar to confuse... hlthe2b Sep 2014 #50

Well they could do that anywhere, including DU. former9thward Sep 2014 #68

true enough.... n/t hlthe2b Sep 2014 #71

You can register using your DU name without approval of the administrator Gothmog Sep 2014 #120

I can definitely see how someone who enjoys putting down the RWers at Discissionist kcr Sep 2014 #12

Iow, if someone posts an OP putting down people who like to challenge Right Wingers sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #16

No one cares if you like to put down right wingers kcr Sep 2014 #70

Well, if someone is defending them for attacking one of our own, talk to that person. I would sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #86

I am talking to that person kcr Sep 2014 #89

Who you are talking to is a woman who has been subjected to even more vile, sexual sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #170

And you don't even know the experiences of who you're talking to kcr Sep 2014 #190

Maybe because I prefer to deal with it my way. I hope that is alright with you. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #361

I'm flattered you care if it's okay with me, but you don't need my permission kcr Sep 2014 #368

+ about a gazillion. chervilant Sep 2014 #111

Hear, hear! k&r n/t Laelth Sep 2014 #22

Discussionist can die off fast for all I care. nt TeamPooka Sep 2014 #23

Setting up a site to profit off of trolls having internet fights. Mom must be proud. #whatever nt TeamPooka Sep 2014 #27

Ich werde, gn�dige Frau erf�llen! MineralMan Sep 2014 #29

How sweet, a nasty personal attack complete with Nazi imagery. You didn't need to translate, been sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #335

German does not equal Nazi. MineralMan Sep 2014 #356

Did you similarly acknowledge the command to 'Shut Discussionist Down'? In German? sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #358

Well one of us thinks that you are a very clever fellow. nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #370

Many ironies exist on DU and elsewhere. MineralMan Sep 2014 #373

I am surprised that you, knowing her full well, think that she was ordering anyone to do rhett o rick Sep 2014 #375

Personally, I don't care if Discussionist lives or dies. MineralMan Sep 2014 #377

Are you talking about the person who ordered the Admins to 'Shut Discussionist Down'? sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #401

I've made my opinion about Discussionist clear. MineralMan Sep 2014 #403

We were talking about Authoritarianism. I believe it was you who raised the issue. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #411

I agree and I think the incidents of lack of civility will be taken care of Cleita Sep 2014 #30

Agreed. It's no holds barred LittleBlue Sep 2014 #34

Very good description of Discussionist, LittleBlue. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #346

Like to challenge RWers? Go to Yahoo News. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #35

The rape threat person was banned. What else do you think could have been done? polly7 Sep 2014 #37

Banned for making a sock. Not the rape threat. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #40

Someone here made a sock and even tried to school me polly7 Sep 2014 #44

Done. I'm not playing this game with you, Polly. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #52

Buh bye, nt. polly7 Sep 2014 #62

Thats what they do. nt darkangel218 Sep 2014 #218

banned for making a sock to circumvent a prior suspension magical thyme Sep 2014 #127

I disagree, I see on MIRT every day people being rightfully banned for Dragonfli Sep 2014 #169

offs, excuse me for being glad he was PPRd magical thyme Sep 2014 #221

You completely misunderstood my reply Dragonfli Sep 2014 #230

I have been to their sites, they NEED to hear voices of reason which is why sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #42

The kind of RWer at Discussionist doesn't listen to reason. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #51

How do you know they're not disgruntled/banned DUers? leftstreet Sep 2014 #79

Hey Sabrina, I actually changed two hard-right-wingers minds about the Iraq invasion. polly7 Sep 2014 #57

Good for you polly, you have the personality and patience to present your views in a respectful sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #321

Ummm ........... err ............ well, not always. polly7 Sep 2014 #334

Lol, well sometimes even the patience of a saint would be tested. Name-calling doesn't bother me, sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #338

Yeah, that was about as subtle as a jack-hammer. polly7 Sep 2014 #343

WEll, I have no burning desire to convert the heathen. What do we do if they refuse to CTyankee Sep 2014 #90

I don't know what to expect. But in the past, during the early Bush years sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #105

I've not been very successful but it looks like some of the media is coming around CTyankee Sep 2014 #153

We should shut that entire forum down for one troll? LittleBlue Sep 2014 #95

this works well until its own members are all in synch with each other on misogyny... CTyankee Sep 2014 #173

Go over there and change the complexion, then LittleBlue Sep 2014 #177

I have said this elsewhere: why would I do that? CTyankee Sep 2014 #187

You are not nothing. You are a valued member of the DU community LittleBlue Sep 2014 #194

Yes, go post over there and make yourself a target. JTFrog Sep 2014 #201

Or don't LittleBlue Sep 2014 #202

Not sure I want to step into a cesspool of misogyny. Does that surprise you? CTyankee Sep 2014 #223

Good post. Nt cwydro Sep 2014 #372

Hi, Sabrina. I think I understand where you're coming from(I hope). AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #36

Thanks, that of course is reprehensible no matter where it is coming from. I myself sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #53

Yep, shut it down and it is a victory for the right. zeemike Sep 2014 #176

Good post, and I could not agree more. Sometimes I wonder who is behind a lot of this sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #184

Well if you don't wonder you are not paying attention. zeemike Sep 2014 #199

+1 KoKo Sep 2014 #336

Yes, there are a lot of trolls on here and admin should do something about it XemaSab Sep 2014 #229

Sorry, had to be done... Snarkoleptic Sep 2014 #38

Clever. n/t Laelth Sep 2014 #41

Thanks! Snarkoleptic Sep 2014 #49

Discussionist makes DU look mostly sane. Laelth Sep 2014 #63

that was what i was thinking fizzgig Sep 2014 #45

dammit, you beat me to it PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #58

Thanks... *steals* freshwest Sep 2014 #236

Thank you! Fearless Sep 2014 #281

I have a big problem with closing my eyes to rape threats. JaydenD Sep 2014 #47

So do I. And having been the target of some particularly vile sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #65

There were 4, that were hidden 7-0 and the poster banned Ms. Toad Sep 2014 #97

Thank you, I wasn't aware of that. Seems like the jury system is working over there then sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #100

It certainly worked in this instance. Ms. Toad Sep 2014 #106

Considering the make up of the jury system there, those hides are very positive imo. 7-0! sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #110

By all means, kudos to those 7 juror members for being basic human beings kcr Sep 2014 #155

Better than some of the results I've seen here for posts that should have been hidden. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #179

Indeed. Posts that should be hidden, aren't. And sometimes they are. kcr Sep 2014 #182

So you would prefer those posts WEREN'T hidden? Would that have been just a 'random' sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #186

In what universe could my words be interpreted to mean that? kcr Sep 2014 #188

So do we all, which is why I am happy with both DU and Discussionist where those threats sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #286

So what exactly do you want to see happen? nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #270

My opinion is DU would be better off without Discussionist kcr Sep 2014 #327

But what specifically do you want to see done? nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #337

Why? Do you think I have a say? kcr Sep 2014 #339

So you want Discussionist shut down? There are people here that are explaining rhett o rick Sep 2014 #352

I want to be rich and beautiful and famous, too. What does it matter. Why do you care? kcr Sep 2014 #355

I am only trying my best to find out what it is you want. Lots of complaining but little commitment rhett o rick Sep 2014 #362

And I'm only doing my best to try to find out why you care so much. kcr Sep 2014 #364

That's what I thought. rhett o rick Sep 2014 #365

YEP. Rex Sep 2014 #408

. rhett o rick Sep 2014 #413

And yet here you are in the middle of this shit? You didn't bother to find out what it was about? JTFrog Sep 2014 #175

Excuse me? I thought my OP was clear about 'what it was about'. n/t sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #324

When do we a get the Leave Stormfront Alone, Leave FR Alone, Leave Rush Alone OP? n/t JTFrog Sep 2014 #342

Now you're just being ridiculous. polly7 Sep 2014 #347

Yea, they are promoting Discussionist. JTFrog Sep 2014 #348

Only for those who don't have an ounce of tolerance or polly7 Sep 2014 #349

Is that meant to insinuate that Skinner, EarlG and Elad are guilty of setting up a site that is sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #360

I'm not insinuating anything. JTFrog Sep 2014 #363

Are Democrats allowed to post at FR? I was under the impression that Dems could not refute anything sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #367

So do I, but what's your point? Are you trying to accuse the OP author of closing her rhett o rick Sep 2014 #269

Nice twisty play, Shakespeare but I'm not buying a ticket. JaydenD Sep 2014 #311

Oh, I leave it alone all right... CTyankee Sep 2014 #54

oh, ffs PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #56

lol, that was exactly my response, and the pic i had in mind. boston bean Sep 2014 #61

... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #135

Committing theft again. I'm stealing this one, too. Thanks, PeaceNikki! freshwest Sep 2014 #237

Surely, NO ONE here is surprised by this OP and the person posting it? Number23 Sep 2014 #262

I'm certainly not. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #272

I've seen enough of your posts to know that you seem to be one of a few clued in folks here Number23 Sep 2014 #296

Another version of the nasty yahoo boards Lex Sep 2014 #59

Thank you for this thread. How oddly absurd that people will say, "Every time I go there rhett o rick Sep 2014 #60

That grap and torch mob are on discussionist BainsBane Sep 2014 #69

I do not in any way support or apologize for any behavior that includes rude disruption rhett o rick Sep 2014 #125

I propose that the administrators take misogyny and threats to women more seriously BainsBane Sep 2014 #144

So how's it going, changing all those nutty views. Making Progress? JaydenD Sep 2014 #77

I am not that familiar with logical fallacies but your post must qualify. rhett o rick Sep 2014 #133

Thanks Rhett. That is always an easy decision for me, to not participate in something sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #108

I strongly support "refuting". But when you run into those that don't want to play rhett o rick Sep 2014 #138

I don't give a flying (insert expletive here) Call Me Wesley Sep 2014 #66

Agreed eom. Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2014 #191

+1000, it is a shame you have to post this on a liberal site! nt Logical Sep 2014 #73

I'm sorry, but there's a pattern here and it has nothing to do with Discussionist Glitterati Sep 2014 #75

+1. Well said. n/t Laelth Sep 2014 #78

+1 leftstreet Sep 2014 #88

You are right, this is the Admin's website they can ban anyone they want. seaglass Sep 2014 #131

Discussionist is a business too LittleBlue Sep 2014 #141

And does this have a "chilling effect" on her freedom of speech... CTyankee Sep 2014 #180

It matters LittleBlue Sep 2014 #196

I'm not interested in shutting Discussionist down. I am interested in adding misogyny to the TOS seaglass Sep 2014 #200

and you think attacking the site owners like you have Glitterati Sep 2014 #206

I don't feel I've attacked the owners and no, I actually think the likelihood of them making the seaglass Sep 2014 #214

No kidding! pecwae Sep 2014 #143

+1 n/t enigmatic Sep 2014 #162

So do you think it's wrong to want everyone to not be a racist? cui bono Sep 2014 #222

I think the sooner you realize that brow beating people Glitterati Sep 2014 #231

On the upside, at least they're not rending their garments about the Men's Group lately. n/t lumberjack_jeff Sep 2014 #227

ROFL, for the moment. n/t Glitterati Sep 2014 #232

Yep, pretty much. distantearlywarning Sep 2014 #238

Well said. nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #271

Just saw your post, sorry for not responding sooner. You have hit the nail on the head. And I doubt sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #428

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Sep 2014 #80

I'm reminded of Ned Flanders. JohnnyRingo Sep 2014 #84

Good analogy. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #92

exactly oldandhappy Sep 2014 #85

The guy who threatened Bainsbane wasn't a right winger.nt sufrommich Sep 2014 #87

Sorry, I didn't read that thread. I am responding to Trumad's title. As I have said sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #91

You don't know that Glitterati Sep 2014 #96

It's not rocket science,you can look up his posts over sufrommich Sep 2014 #104

Looks like he was posting here not to long ago. Rex Sep 2014 #114

Thanks for making my point Glitterati Sep 2014 #126

No shit. Rex Sep 2014 #409

You ARE making up facts Glitterati Sep 2014 #124

It's a catchbasin. MADem Sep 2014 #93

I agree. n/t sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #118

Sabrina 1...go for it! SoapBox Sep 2014 #101

Lol, been doing it since 2001 and am unlikely to stop. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #115

Daylight is the best disinfectant Fiendish Thingy Sep 2014 #102

From what I've learned from MsToad in this thread, the jury system appears to have worked sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #113

I agree Gothmog Sep 2014 #130

Between you and me, I find them woefully insignificant� MrScorpio Sep 2014 #107

You do a very good job from my observations of your participation there. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #109

Yes, this is true. Change is gradual and not a guarantee, but it is worth the effort. The Midway Rebel Sep 2014 #142

Exactly. For the audience is a good reason for posting anywhere. So many people sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #147

You have some great posts on that board Gothmog Sep 2014 #128

Your posts there rock, dude steve2470 Sep 2014 #185

So why give them a platform? savalez Sep 2014 #189

I don't give them a platform. MrScorpio Sep 2014 #195

I was speaking in a general sense. savalez Sep 2014 #351

People, especially unsophisticated morons, all have an inherent need to express themselves MrScorpio Sep 2014 #376

Got it. savalez Sep 2014 #385

I envy your calm in the face of barely-disguised racial hatred over there steve2470 Sep 2014 #392

Thanks, Steve, I really appreciate that, my friend MrScorpio Sep 2014 #395

Keep up the good work, my friend steve2470 Sep 2014 #396

The conservatives really have trouble with facts and being confronted with numbers Gothmog Sep 2014 #384

DKDC (don't know don't care) sounds like far too many cases of DSBS (dreaded sperm backup syndrome) DesertFaux Sep 2014 #117

You got it! nt ScreamingMeemie Sep 2014 #121

well you can challenge the nutty views of the Far Right here as well hfojvt Sep 2014 #154

Better you than me, more power to you, etc LadyHawkAZ Sep 2014 #157

Right wing talking points tooeyeten Sep 2014 #165

I absolutely agree and if you are familiar with my posts at all you will know that I sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #172

I couldn't agree more sabrina stupidicus Sep 2014 #167

so you can challenge RW points, but don't want those points challenged here? La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #178

So, you're making stuff up and hope no one will notice? sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #181

no i am not. people here criticize discussionist because of the RW views expressed there La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #183

And people from here choose to sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #419

the only reason people care about shutting down discussionist has to do with DU's admins owning both La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #420

Discussionist isn't a Conservative site, is it? And no one is forcing anyone to post sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #421

you might not care but others do. what gives liberals a bad name has nothing to do with DU La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #422

When you want to make a point, it needs to be based on fact. You just TRIED to make a sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #423

I asked the same thing upthread boston bean Sep 2014 #197

Yea, going all Chris Crocker doesn't seem very brilliant does it? n/t JTFrog Sep 2014 #203

DU doesn't have any of this points. Call Me Wesley Sep 2014 #204

lol. i agree. La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #210

I do-there's nothing there to interest me. hobbit709 Sep 2014 #192

Great! That is the solution as I pointed out in the OP. Do you think it should be sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #193

It gives the idiots a place to congregate. hobbit709 Sep 2014 #198

I agree. Warren DeMontague Sep 2014 #205

I'll be blunt: Call Me Wesley Sep 2014 #208

Well, I'll be blunt also. Kudos to the members over there who voted unanimously against sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #211

That guy was a member since May, 2014. Call Me Wesley Sep 2014 #216

can you point me to the response by admin? La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #212

Here: Call Me Wesley Sep 2014 #217

I think EarlG makes a number of valid points. The only reason that crap was here was because Electric Monk Sep 2014 #274

AMEN! Glitterati Sep 2014 #315

That's an excellent post from EarlG. And he is RIGHT. Most of us here would never have seen the sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #431

Yes it is interesting. cui bono Sep 2014 #220

I understand where you're coming from, but that's not what Discussionist is from what I've seen. cui bono Sep 2014 #219

Typical authoritarian right wing response - TBF Sep 2014 #224

LOL wut? lumberjack_jeff Sep 2014 #225

If it were simply a free speech issue yes, TBF Sep 2014 #226

What I don't get is collective guilt lumberjack_jeff Sep 2014 #228

And not just the 28 jurors, but the four alerters also. That is 32 people sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #252

I can stay away from it for sure - TBF Sep 2014 #302

Holy shit. I find myself agreeing with you. I gotta sit the fuck down. nt msanthrope Sep 2014 #233

Hell must have frozen over! Now I'm at a loss, I WANT to argue with you, but just can't find sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #249

I don't. joshcryer Sep 2014 #289

This OP does not surprise me in the least. William769 Sep 2014 #234

Me either. Sabrina is one of the most principled posters in DU. I am glad you agree. nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #273

Well said. +10000000000000000000 nt. polly7 Sep 2014 #316

sabrina, thank you for this post. RiffRandell Sep 2014 #235

K&R! nt. polly7 Sep 2014 #239

K&R for an alternative view. Even if I can't stand the place myself. n/t nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #244

Threats of violence or rape should be grounds of instant and permanent banning on both sites (nt) LostOne4Ever Sep 2014 #246

Agreed and that is exactly what happened at Discussionist. Four juries hid those posts 7-0 and sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #248

The problem is that it was only a temporary ban LostOne4Ever Sep 2014 #264

I just checked his profile on Discussionist and it says his posting privileges have been revoked. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #282

this is what i don't get tammywammy Sep 2014 #256

I'd honestly think that the biggest problem with shutting that place down is..... AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #259

I don't get it either. Which is why I wrote this OP. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #277

If we could get, say, the late George S. Patton in here to talk about these threads Warren DeMontague Sep 2014 #260

! opiate69 Sep 2014 #261

He might refuse on philosophical grounds. RiffRandell Sep 2014 #265

^^^This!^^^ BlueCaliDem Sep 2014 #276

Thanks, BlueCaliDem. I agree that the same rule we have here, where you cannot sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #279

Rape threats against DU members? Jasana Sep 2014 #278

This is the internet. That 'shit' will never be 'wiped out completely'. It IS very much controlled sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #284

I have never been a moderator but I have worked in IT... Jasana Sep 2014 #383

meh...Never even been over there once Blue_Tires Sep 2014 #283

You were wrong. Like all sites, a few real trolls, such as the one whose PPs have been revoked his sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #287

Multiple 200+ post complaint threads in GD, and I'm the one who's wrong?? Blue_Tires Sep 2014 #374

I love and respect you Sabrina Aerows Sep 2014 #285

Aw, I love and respect you too, Aerows! sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #294

"Don't go there." pacalo Sep 2014 #293

Is that your response when women are raped on a TBF Sep 2014 #303

No, it's in response to those trying to dictate to Skinner that he shut down Discussionist. pacalo Sep 2014 #305

I understand the sentiment but realistically TBF Sep 2014 #318

That is hyperbole and has not relationship whatsoever to this subject. For one thing sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #398

Excellent! polly7 Sep 2014 #424

There is a virtual army of paid full time right wing sockpuppets on the internet. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #304

Noticed that, also.... KoKo Sep 2014 #344

We are watching the same phenomenon at play. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #345

100% accurate.. and it is one of the back room Peacetrain Sep 2014 #354

Thank you. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #378

True, but we have to disagree. They are far more prevalent on this site and get a lot sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #425

I know exactly what you are saying. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #426

I understand. Weird as this may seem though, I find it harder to tolerate them here sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #427

I think it is completely relevant when people get threatened with horrible crimes. WCLinolVir Sep 2014 #353

I agree that no one should be telling others what or where to discuss. That is why Posted this OP sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #382

We do. WCLinolVir Sep 2014 #397

I never heard of discussionist until this thread popped up. So ...... vlyons Sep 2014 #357

This is happening too much... Jasana Sep 2014 #386

Thank you, Jasana. This adds important context Heidi Sep 2014 #393

Skinner weighed on the recent discussions: The Straight Story Sep 2014 #402

Great place for Putin supporters to go. NCTraveler Sep 2014 #404

The posters on Discussionist have no use for putin supporters either Gothmog Sep 2014 #405

So now it's not enough to accuse DUers of being anti-American Putin supporters, are you sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #406

You make no sense. NCTraveler Sep 2014 #407

People win only when they are right. Not by word count. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #415

Where have I called/accused a poster here of being anti-american? nt. NCTraveler Sep 2014 #410

You feel you can be this dishonest yet not stand up for yourself. NCTraveler Sep 2014 #412

I feel it is reprehensible for any one on this site to use those old right wing 'saddam lover' sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #414

You did not back up your claim. NCTraveler Sep 2014 #416

Post #404: sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #418

"And exactly how do you recognize a Putin Supporter??" NuclearDem Sep 2014 #430

So if people point out FACTS about neocon foreign policies which have already dragged this sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #432

OFFS. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #433

Posted in wrong place. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #417

I haven't been there yet but will probably check it out after the holidays. Uncle Joe Sep 2014 #429