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HockeyMom

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15. Premeditation is very low

Reply to rfranklin (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 02:58 PM

Apr 2012

Besides ignoring 911 operator and pursuing, taking his gun out of his car when he confronted Trayvon, would be enough for premeditation. If he didn't intend to use his gun, he wouldn't take it out of the his car. Intent is the factor in that.

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"A guy with a gun pursuing and shooting a guy without a gun adds up to manslaughter," [View all] MoonRiver Apr 2012 OP

How would you show premeditation? rfranklin Apr 2012 #1

He's "pursuing a guy without a gun." MoonRiver Apr 2012 #3

Sounds like is not proof... rfranklin Apr 2012 #8

Circumstantial evidence has proved a lot of things. ashling Apr 2012 #11

he planned to pick up his gun magical thyme Apr 2012 #13

Premeditation is very low HockeyMom Apr 2012 #15

More likely murder two. hifiguy Apr 2012 #2

That's what I think. Ganja Ninja Apr 2012 #18

First off, it's not murder one because murder one requires premeditation. TheWraith Apr 2012 #4

However, aren't there some JD who have posed that one can premeditate in a twinkling of an eye? Ecumenist Apr 2012 #7

I'm sure somebody somewhere has made that case. TheWraith Apr 2012 #9

Sure, one can premeditate in a twinkling of an eye. Mariana Apr 2012 #10

Yes, that is my understanding. MoonRiver Apr 2012 #12

That's what I have always heard....but I'm no lawyer. I mean, he wasn't stalking him Ecumenist Apr 2012 #16

Exactly! His INTENT was to shoot Trayvon. n/t MoonRiver Apr 2012 #17

Zimmerman stalked Trayvon, pulled his gun out and shot. MoonRiver Apr 2012 #14

Maybe not premeditated, but definitely murder. Daniel537 Apr 2012 #5

Yeah, "WTF?" was my reaction when I heard that. polichick Apr 2012 #6