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In reply to the discussion: Say hello to men who hate the NSA but love invading the privacy of women [View all]Pholus
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If he can't tell the difference between spies spying on enemies or the massive waste fraud and abuse that results from surveilling their own population he's already a lost cause in a democracy.
I take it you'd be more comfortable if that scandal didn't exist? I would too.
But credibility is a hard thing to get back. The NSA flat out lied, dude, to the Congress. That may be okay with you but in the end, but to me that lie will bite the American people in the ass for years to come.
In 2002 I registered for Democratic Underground as a form of protest against Poindexter's Total Information Awareness program combined with Ari Fleischer's "Watch what you say." Like the mythical story about the size of Hancock's signature I wanted to make sure I was on the record.
Anyway, despite all your confidence in this system we are exactly one bad election result and ten minutes of executive orders from going right back to all those power mad fantasies of Dick Cheney. Because our guy preserved and even enhanced the infrastructure to do this worthless, yet to be proven to be beneficial at all, bullshit.
Shame on you for thinking that's okay, just as long as the right guy has his hand on the switch.