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72. K&R

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Tue Sep 2, 2014, 05:42 PM

Sep 2014

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Return of the Evil Empire [View all] Octafish Sep 2014 OP

Making it safe for the WTO too. L0oniX Sep 2014 #1

Nobel Prize winning economist Joseph Stiglitz agrees with you 100-percent, L0oniX! Octafish Sep 2014 #3

I wonder if Hillary will be advised by Larry Summers. PADemD Sep 2014 #23

Well since she does speaking engagements for Goldman Sachs... L0oniX Sep 2014 #25

We HAVE learned some things over the past few years that once were extremely puzzling sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #31

Free Elections!!! dvduval Sep 2014 #20

The people DID decide in those regions, the coup govt in Kiev launched a military assault on them sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #32

This a must read. Wellstone ruled Sep 2014 #2

Integrity: since money was invented, a concept alien to the capitalist. Octafish Sep 2014 #6

It's in the Genes PeoViejo Sep 2014 #17

That is one dangerous threat to this country, the Bush family. And to other countries as we sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #34

Just about all of that is wrong, Benton D Struckcheon Sep 2014 #4

Sorry, but your sorry little post needs an education. truedelphi Sep 2014 #7

There's a lot of hypotheticals re Ukraine's resources, Benton D Struckcheon Sep 2014 #12

Could you possibly take the time on Tuesday to call up the Goldman Sachs truedelphi Sep 2014 #19

Goldman will do anything for money. Benton D Struckcheon Sep 2014 #21

i love you too Babe truedelphi Sep 2014 #27

No. Benton D Struckcheon Sep 2014 #29

When the world's most powerful imperial nation masterminds a coup, truedelphi Sep 2014 #50

I don't believe we masterminded a coup. Benton D Struckcheon Sep 2014 #60

What coup? nt Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #64

Since you couldn't be bothered to read the material I cited, here it is in a nutshell: truedelphi Sep 2014 #67

Yanukovych left under his own willpower voluntarily. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #68

Oh so many loved Putin when Russia was the G-8. Octafish Sep 2014 #8

None of that has anything to do with Russia, Benton D Struckcheon Sep 2014 #9

And you could not be more wrong sadly. Just about everything in the OP is absolutely correct. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #35

Five billion US dollars spent in the Ukraine could be as much as truedelphi Sep 2014 #5

From 2011: Goldman Sachs Is So Desperate To Get Into Ukraine It's Advising The Government For FREE Octafish Sep 2014 #10

Michael Parenti is totally amazing. truedelphi Sep 2014 #74

The $5.1 billion was given TO the Ukrainian government over the course of 22 years (1991 on). pampango Sep 2014 #30

I wonder how this is all going to play out... CJCRANE Sep 2014 #11

Money trumps peace crowd figures they'll survive. Octafish Sep 2014 #18

k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Sep 2014 #13

It's like the 'Team B' concept never leaves Wall Street on the Potomac. Octafish Sep 2014 #22

K&R.... daleanime Sep 2014 #14

An Original Narrative Octafish Sep 2014 #24

The Rendon Group staged the 2004 Democratic National Convention when then Sen. Obama bobthedrummer Sep 2014 #49

I either forgot that or never knew it. Thank you, bobthedrummer! Octafish Sep 2014 #65

I know all too well how many are affected by events that are covered up to fit in the lie machines bobthedrummer Sep 2014 #71

Resurrecting the old pissing contest. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #15

Profound thought, that. Thank you, Tierra y Libertad! This august group agrees with you... Octafish Sep 2014 #39

K&R LongTomH Sep 2014 #16

You are most welcome, LongTomH. War means Money! Octafish Sep 2014 #44

And those IMF loans will need to be paid back at usurious rates requiring austerity to....... LongTomH Sep 2014 #51

Well, Hell I believe would be very Buy-Partisan. Octafish Sep 2014 #52

Counterpunch is one of my favorite websies Quantess Sep 2014 #26

Mine, too. Very little censorship, apart from the assassination of JFK... Octafish Sep 2014 #48

This needs a kick. Cleita Sep 2014 #28

Precisely malaise Sep 2014 #33

What a steaming load of bullshit. Pushes a false narrative while accusing others of doing so. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #36

When's the administration going to release its evidence for all that? It's been two months. Octafish Sep 2014 #37

You'd think a former spook like McGovern would know that the investigation is in Dutch hands... Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #38

No. He's referring to evidence the President alluded to... Octafish Sep 2014 #40

So you're saying that if I believe Ukraine is unjustly under attack from Russia.... Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #41

No. That's what you said. Octafish Sep 2014 #42

Funny thing, I didn't even mention NATO in the equation. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #43

So what? I think peace is better than war. Octafish Sep 2014 #45

The vast majority of us here, myself included, heartily agree with your general premise. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #46

Got it. Thanks. From your post I thought you were denigrating me as a 'Conspiracy Theorist.' Octafish Sep 2014 #47

Always be wary of affirming the consequent. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #54

Right you are. You don't think the US was behind the 2013 coup in Ukraine? Octafish Sep 2014 #57

No, even if only by the fact that there was no "coup". Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #58

The Media Ignores the CIA in Ukraine Octafish Sep 2014 #62

It's actually very simple to get to the bottom of the "coup" issue. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #63

I notice that neither of the responses to your post bothered to try to refute your point about davidpdx Sep 2014 #75

I don't think there's any evidence to refute it. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #76

Do you support the actions of the current Kiev government, which appears to be falling apart, again sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #53

You're assuming that the reason the Ukrainians are fighting is to protect the IMF? Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #55

You do know membership in the IMF is voluntary right? EX500rider Sep 2014 #56

You do know Ukraine already owes IMF $17 Billion? Octafish Sep 2014 #59

Yes most loans have terms it seems and the requirement to be paid back. EX500rider Sep 2014 #61

Apparently it isn't otherwise, Boroshenko, the Chocolate King, (dear alerters, he is known as sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #66

"Show me a success story related to the IMF" EX500rider Sep 2014 #73

I'll go with Joseph Stiglitz over Sebastian Mallaby. Octafish Sep 2014 #77

Octafish, the Stiglitz post is one juicy post! truedelphi Sep 2014 #78

Wow! Explains why Geithner sacrificed homeowners to ''Foam the Runway'' for the Banks. Octafish Sep 2014 #79

Nailed it - TBF Sep 2014 #69

Big KICK hifiguy Sep 2014 #70

K&R JEB Sep 2014 #72

Today's "Putin is blameless and this is all Washington's fault!!" piece... Blue_Tires Sep 2014 #80