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31. Because the progressive institutions we cherish were produced by it and maintain it

Tue Sep 2, 2014, 11:23 PM

Sep 2014

People here love the New Deal. But it was a white supremacist project; a combination of northern industrial corporatism and southern progressive racism (the 1910s-1920s incarnation of the KKK was entirely a Progressive phenomenon -- they championed prohibition, municipal reform, eugenics, women's suffrage... all the Progressive buttons were pushed). (This is another reason I'm not entirely comfortable with the label "progressive", because of its past.)

The New Deal created the white middle class by systematic theft from nonwhites. It was in some senses the "creator of whiteness", because prior to that time Irish, Italian, Slavic, etc. were considered "races"; after that all whites were "white" (the shift in language during this time period is quite striking). Examining white privilege leads to uncomfortable acknowledgements about the systems and structures many on this board put forward as the answers to everything.

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If you don't believe in (recognize) white privilege why the fuck are you on a Democratic Forum? [View all] Cad Bane Sep 2014 OP

I believe in human privilege bhikkhu Sep 2014 #1

That's better than my response was going to be. kentauros Sep 2014 #2

Why are you both avoiding the issue? brush Sep 2014 #43

I denied nothing. kentauros Sep 2014 #165

no you denied nothing heaven05 Sep 2014 #246

I made an extremely mild joke. kentauros Sep 2014 #280

joke noted heaven05 Sep 2014 #281

and you see heaven, that's how it's done. turn the issue back onto the person who is offended and locdlib Sep 2014 #345

By "believe in", the OP meant "recognize the reality of"...not "support". Ken Burch Sep 2014 #50

Thank you, Ken Burch. That's the way I read the OP as well. raven mad Sep 2014 #86

It exists, and a lot still has to change bhikkhu Sep 2014 #232

good one heaven05 Sep 2014 #244

What is white privilege should be extended to everyone - bhikkhu Sep 2014 #278

okay heaven05 Sep 2014 #279

so kick us all to the curb and you will never get to a utopian world, Nobel_Twaddle_III Sep 2014 #321

I kick or kicked no one heaven05 Sep 2014 #350

What white privilege means to me bhikkhu Sep 2014 #348

Now the picture is clearer heaven05 Sep 2014 #351

Quite a non sequitur. phil89 Sep 2014 #305

I also ask myself the same thing about gunners. Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #3

True. n/t JimDandy Sep 2014 #26

*Ahem* 2012 Democratic National Platform NutmegYankee Sep 2014 #187

Democrats also supported the Iraq wars parts 1-3. lark Sep 2014 #256

I was going to say that gaspee Sep 2014 #260

Word lark Sep 2014 #262

Thank you! lark Sep 2014 #375

Regardless of your opinion, pro-gun Democrats have every right to be on a Democratic forum. NutmegYankee Sep 2014 #306

I never said they have no right to do that. lark Sep 2014 #374

Go back and read what I was replying to. NutmegYankee Sep 2014 #377

Fred, I don't have any NRA talking points, but I do own 2 guns. raven mad Sep 2014 #188

I am not against guns for well regulated hunting, for indigenous sustenance, national self defence. Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #215

Exactly my position gaspee Sep 2014 #261

The gunners and the enabling media have made the issue tribal, one camp or the other, and Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #272

Hmm, where have we seen your anti-gun talking points before? friendly_iconoclast Sep 2014 #263

Thanks for the info., I will be sure be better prepared for my next post, thanks again..... Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #270

Gotta level up, Fred-it's never good to have one's posts seem rote... friendly_iconoclast Sep 2014 #274

How do you hunt without a long gun? NutmegYankee Sep 2014 #307

I am kind of hoping for a reply sarisataka Sep 2014 #335

Because we know that Democrats never own guns, right? Nt hack89 Sep 2014 #198

Even as a very young boy, I knew that I was seen as "acceptable" with other people. BlueJazz Sep 2014 #4

Dude, we have all sorts here Prophet 451 Sep 2014 #5

Which should be a barring offence. What next, creationists here? Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #8

The gospel according to Fred. Psephos Sep 2014 #9

Totally agree MoleyRusselsWart Sep 2014 #22

A range of viewpoints thast includes "moron" tends to not foster great discussion Scootaloo Sep 2014 #32

The problem is that many people think someone with a different opinion is a moron. Psephos Sep 2014 #35

We even have those that will tell you what your opinion is. Thor_MN Sep 2014 #46

Reminds me how those who are compelled to convince you of their view... Psephos Sep 2014 #59

f you look at the universe and tell me "Jesus did it" you're a moron Scootaloo Sep 2014 #64

So, all it takes is for Scootaloo to say who's on the moron list. Psephos Sep 2014 #68

Reality isn't a point of view Scootaloo Sep 2014 #79

Your theoreticals are taking over. Psephos Sep 2014 #89

I KNOW it doesn't equal that. That's my point entirely Scootaloo Sep 2014 #95

Aww, don't get upset. All in the spirit of good discussion. Psephos Sep 2014 #99

"Reality isn't a point of view" Veilex Sep 2014 #285

No, in fact reallity is not "somewhere between all the points of view" Scootaloo Sep 2014 #293

No, in fact reallity is not... Veilex Sep 2014 #295

Well, we're both presenting opinions, and not data. Scootaloo Sep 2014 #299

"Well, we're both presenting opinions, and not data" Veilex Sep 2014 #308

There is a stable reality cheapdate Sep 2014 #327

Well said Prophet 451 Sep 2014 #70

Morons betsuni Sep 2014 #161

That was entertaining! Veilex Sep 2014 #290

Jimmy Carter and Bishop Tutu are morons? Martin Luther King Jr was a moron? sarge43 Sep 2014 #233

Did any of the three deny the science of cosmology? Scootaloo Sep 2014 #258

Probably not sarge43 Sep 2014 #297

+1! You forgot the guy that believes the temperature on Mars is the same as on the Earth. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #255

The problem with that Prophet 451 Sep 2014 #65

The colloquial term "fact" is often misused in place of "theory." Psephos Sep 2014 #83

You're missing the point Prophet 451 Sep 2014 #87

I see the same thing across the argument spectrum. Psephos Sep 2014 #94

Yes, always good to say it Prophet 451 Sep 2014 #104

As a psychologist, you understand the term selection bias. Psephos Sep 2014 #105

Of course Prophet 451 Sep 2014 #106

"You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts." nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #135

REV AL SHARPTON on MSNBC uses that phrase alot trueblue2007 Sep 2014 #149

Arthur C Clarke The Green Manalishi Sep 2014 #283

Yes a range of viewpoints along the spectrum that is left of center. Fla Dem Sep 2014 #222

Exactly cwydro Sep 2014 #254

Maybe you should make a list of all those that you think should be banned. It would rhett o rick Sep 2014 #38

Climate Change deniers are idiots but not comparable to white privilege deniers imo. Cad Bane Sep 2014 #12

I disagree Prophet 451 Sep 2014 #62

Agree, in two generations no one will be around to worry about white privilege. Katashi_itto Sep 2014 #207

Exactly. Or the rights of women, labor, disabled, children and any other protections we have. raouldukelives Sep 2014 #228

You got to the heart of the matter. Here's more like what you said so well here: freshwest Sep 2014 #157

Very well said Freshwest JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #189

There is always a chance to learn, if one is not blinded by fear. A lot of folks need to learn this. freshwest Sep 2014 #286

^^ Most Excellent ^^ Thank you, freshwest n/t OneGrassRoot Sep 2014 #204

great post heaven05 Sep 2014 #282

Thanks for posting that here, freshwest. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #309

"It’s white rage against progress." Excellent freshwest! Mahalo! nm Cha Sep 2014 #315

Perhaps what they reject is that they PRESUME privilege. Presumption of privilege is apparent to any ancianita Sep 2014 #229

yup - homophobes, misogynists, gun humpers, etc. Skittles Sep 2014 #133

Skittles, don't forget those of us who believe in unicorns! raven mad Sep 2014 #186

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Capt. Obvious Sep 2014 #324

"similar words for the HOF girls are not tolerated" DeadLetterOffice Sep 2014 #330

Them's some stupid folk Skittles Sep 2014 #338

Yeah, that is nuts. I was surprised to run across one here the other day. nt raouldukelives Sep 2014 #227

Good question frazzled Sep 2014 #6

It is quite possible. There are many genuine progressives who do not believe in WP. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #16

Then they arent genuine progressives. nt ncjustice80 Sep 2014 #202

When were you elected definer of the purity test ? Nobel_Twaddle_III Sep 2014 #323

When was white privilege not a thing? XemaSab Sep 2014 #314

Important works on the concept are older than you are, let alone DU. LeftyMom Sep 2014 #334

Lots of Democrats don't rpannier Sep 2014 #7

I think Cad's point is that lots of them do. n/t bvf Sep 2014 #10

But that's not what the OP and body of his argument is about rpannier Sep 2014 #24

Can't say I've spent a lot of time in some threads bvf Sep 2014 #41

There are a lot of 'third-ways' to go. Check your compass, imho. n/t fleabiscuit Sep 2014 #66

I see your point. But sometimes, the fat does need to be trimmed. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #131

The 'Dixicrats' were a separate party AgingAmerican Sep 2014 #273

Actually his point was that ALL of them do, and if you don't you can't be a Dem Doctor_J Sep 2014 #329

If you dont agree with X Egnever Sep 2014 #11

Aren't there countless people on this site running around Cad Bane Sep 2014 #17

No, not countless. Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #25

Unfortunately most people won't be able to make that determination. Cad Bane Sep 2014 #34

Well, I dunno, man. Is it really required? AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #13

. LeftyMom Sep 2014 #20

o.m.g. cyberswede Sep 2014 #51

Ha! This will NEVER get old! betsuni Sep 2014 #117

As much as I love Futurama, what's the point to all this? nt AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #121

Everybody loves STFUstarter. It's the hot new craze that's sweeping the internet! LeftyMom Sep 2014 #125

This message was self-deleted by its author A-Schwarzenegger Sep 2014 #206

HA! Now I get it!!!! Number23 Sep 2014 #381

+1000 nt stage left Sep 2014 #266

There's a lot of BS in what you just wrote. Most of it extremely offensive and ignorant. Cad Bane Sep 2014 #27

"EVERY white person has benefited from white privilege." No. Just no. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #74

Offensive and ignorant is the poster's stock in trade. Starry Messenger Sep 2014 #219

As is why people bother to engage him. DeadLetterOffice Sep 2014 #331

To discourage other like-minded assholes from joining this site. Starry Messenger Sep 2014 #333

You are a good, good person. DeadLetterOffice Sep 2014 #337

. XemaSab Sep 2014 #342

Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow betsuni Sep 2014 #340

I have seen NOTHING that sums up that person's needlessly relentless stupidity better than this Number23 Sep 2014 #382

They were beaten for questioning, advocating against authority. Big difference. WCLinolVir Sep 2014 #221

and some of them were killed.nt. stage left Sep 2014 #269

I'm not sure that you're a progressive at all. kwassa Sep 2014 #45

Wait, you're suggesting we need to worry about what Bill O'Reilly says, LOL. bettyellen Sep 2014 #49

White privilege has been "a thing" since well before this country was founded. cui bono Sep 2014 #53

To be able to walk into a store, even late at night, and not be viewed or followed as suspicious tblue37 Sep 2014 #56

Sorry Joe, I cannot possibly agree with you here. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #85

Those photos ought to convince any doubter. Hoyt Sep 2014 #203

Well Done Liberal_Dog Sep 2014 #226

^this^ stage left Sep 2014 #313

Exceptional illustrative post. cui bono Sep 2014 #372

We should TOTALLY let Bill O'Reilley set our agenda gollygee Sep 2014 #201

Progressive. Feminist. JTFrog Sep 2014 #213

May I ask what you were before you were a Democrat? stage left Sep 2014 #267

It was a bit complicated, to be truthful. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #288

OK. nt stage left Sep 2014 #312

"this wasn't even a thing until just this last year." Hissyspit Sep 2014 #319

Well, I meant a major topic on DU, that is. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #343

You spend too much time apologizing XemaSab Sep 2014 #344

Everyone! If you believe ... clap your hands! Kablooie Sep 2014 #14

I don't find it a very productive trope. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2014 #15

Its simple... MoleyRusselsWart Sep 2014 #18

I think it's more of an ignorance thing, we're products of our environment. fleabiscuit Sep 2014 #76

True, but MoleyRusselsWart Sep 2014 #217

I'll have to be honest with you. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #88

I never said MoleyRusselsWart Sep 2014 #216

how many times are you going to say "to be honest"? CreekDog Sep 2014 #247

I'm wondering which RW talk pundit uses that phrase daily. Beck, Boortz, Rush, Hannity, Brillo? freshwest Sep 2014 #292

And that's disturbing because their entire educational, employment, financial and social life... freshwest Sep 2014 #294

Hrmm, poster with 36 posts makes a post about 'our' site, stirring shit. X_Digger Sep 2014 #19

Its better form to argue with the points, not the post count. nt. bhikkhu Sep 2014 #23

Agreed. n/t Psephos Sep 2014 #42

"Don't feed the.. " (well, you know..) n/t X_Digger Sep 2014 #212

it's not stirring shit at all CreekDog Sep 2014 #61

+1 freshwest Sep 2014 #190

Yeah, but the "really rotten underbelly" comment smacks of irredeemability. Not cool. ancianita Sep 2014 #236

Some very large conclusions about DU being drawn by a guy who signed up in July. pa28 Sep 2014 #108

DU=co-opted Tutonic Sep 2014 #21

Pfffffffffft! n/t fleabiscuit Sep 2014 #80

Sorry, I missed that plank in the Democratic Party Platform... 3rdwaydem Sep 2014 #28

Next you'll tell me men aren't privileged. Cad Bane Sep 2014 #36

Oh, really. Democrats reject presuming or endorsing white privilege. That's not the same as ancianita Sep 2014 #237

Perhaps you've missed the entire history of the USA if you don't think people of a certain ethnic cui bono Sep 2014 #60

Something to think about Rilgin Sep 2014 #301

Yes, this. Just this. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #113

Inexcusable ignorance is a good phrase here. flvegan Sep 2014 #29

Rec nt Vine Gatherer Sep 2014 #30

Because the progressive institutions we cherish were produced by it and maintain it Recursion Sep 2014 #31

"Systematic theft from nonwhites" LittleBlue Sep 2014 #54

For two good introductions, I recommend... Recursion Sep 2014 #75

"Nonwhites generated a ton of wealth" LittleBlue Sep 2014 #100

Well, again, Coates covers this very well and I can't write it better than he did Recursion Sep 2014 #107

OK, thank you. Now let me run with those numbers LittleBlue Sep 2014 #115

Yes, it's crucial to privilege that it be invisible Recursion Sep 2014 #116

Some friendly advice LittleBlue Sep 2014 #152

And not to mention the historical revisionism he posted as well. n/t AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #174

"Those are some astonishing claims about the New Deal." And they're pretty much all B.S., too. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #112

Read Katznelson's book Recursion Sep 2014 #120

Katznelson is full of shit, dude. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #122

It is strange watching "progressives" spout RWing talking points about the New Deal Rex Sep 2014 #358

Well, I dunno about one thing, Rex: He did seem sincere to me, to be honest. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #373

Have you ever woken up one morning and gone XemaSab Sep 2014 #380

Analyzing history is terrifying to some folks it seems. Cad Bane Sep 2014 #111

I'm a student of history myself. And much of that post was inaccurate. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #119

Not that at all, they loath FDR...you can guess as to why. Rex Sep 2014 #360

I hate to say this, but truthfully, there are a *number* of problems with this post. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #118

Your focus on people's "intentions" is interesting Recursion Sep 2014 #123

No romanticism here. Just the cold hard truth. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #128

This message was self-deleted by its author AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #129

Some of the posts in this thread are cringe inducing... Jasana Sep 2014 #33

We feel the same way. Cad Bane Sep 2014 #39

I'm glad you are here! JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #194

Don't let the people gaspee Sep 2014 #265

The real Cad Bane was kick ass too Number23 Sep 2014 #383

+ 1000! BlueCaliDem Sep 2014 #47

Because people of all political views are prone to defensiveness, unfortunately. nt LeftyMom Sep 2014 #37

When I hear someone say "White Privelage" all I hear is someone hating me because of my "skin color" DesertFaux Sep 2014 #40

You sound like a caller on Rush Limbaugh's show. Cad Bane Sep 2014 #48

Denial is not becoming brush Sep 2014 #58

Well then you need to open your eyes and ears and educate yourself because your ignorance cui bono Sep 2014 #63

willful ignorance heaven05 Sep 2014 #366

I don't hate you and I use that term here frequently CreekDog Sep 2014 #69

Well, I'd like to say, truthfully, that many people who believe in it aren't like that. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #77

I've just noticed gaspee Sep 2014 #259

WTF? HATRED?!! Where the hell is that coming from? And BTW, UNLESS there are Ecumenist Sep 2014 #205

Thank you for this post. n/t chervilant Sep 2014 #238

Thank you for the comment. I just wanted to point out to that woman that what she said made Ecumenist Sep 2014 #317

In my lifetime, I've learned chervilant Sep 2014 #322

Yes, I noticed that too. I could NOT figure out why she felt it necessary to blurt out Ecumenist Sep 2014 #326

All I hear is someone asking for equal treatment, not hate bhikkhu Sep 2014 #234

Get your ears checked then? Starry Messenger Sep 2014 #320

And you will tell us that your authoritarianism belongs in the Democratic Party? nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #44

Suggestion: in the title you might consider changing "believe IN white privilege" Ken Burch Sep 2014 #52

I said "believe in" meaning in the existence of... Cad Bane Sep 2014 #55

I know what you meant, and support the points you're making here. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #73

Thanks for the suggestion. Cad Bane Sep 2014 #81

True. Which is why it's important to avoid giving them a reason. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #84

from what I understand, most of them understand racism as an issue, but do not prioritise it because bettyellen Sep 2014 #57

I didn't know rejecting racism was an "old school" Democratic value. Cad Bane Sep 2014 #71

I know. but yeah I keep reading here that if we fix Wall St, then we'll ll be doing so much better bettyellen Sep 2014 #78

Yeah sprinkle that magic fairy dust. Cad Bane Sep 2014 #90

Which is pretty ironic gaspee Sep 2014 #271

Many Dem's of an older generation have a different view on race. zaj Sep 2014 #67

I do believe that I have had advantages from being white. WCLinolVir Sep 2014 #72

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You're the "real" racist! Cad Bane Sep 2014 #92

These are rights that cannot be taken away, not privileges The Second Stone Sep 2014 #110

They are taken away every ****ing day from nonwhite people Recursion Sep 2014 #143

I realize he probably didn't mean it that way, but it can sound like it, at least in some contexts. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #162

nobody is attacking white people CreekDog Sep 2014 #93

Sounds like all white people are being attacked for a supposed list The Second Stone Sep 2014 #109

A) The "list" is hardly secret. B) Nobody's being "attacked" just asked to recognize it, and Recursion Sep 2014 #127

I cannot believe how freaking literal-minded people are. Kind of makes me doubt their intellect. nt nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #142

Take 1 step forward for intellect privelege, elias7 Sep 2014 #220

Lots of non-Democrats on this board. Le Taz Hot Sep 2014 #91

Can I ask what attracted you to a site called Democratic Underground? Cad Bane Sep 2014 #97

"I think my views are in line with that of the Democratic Party." They are not. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #101

So downplaying racial inequality is a Democratic value? Not in my book. n/t nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #141

Not what I said, though. At all. nt AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #145

Because in 2001 Le Taz Hot Sep 2014 #102

And fringe-left historical revisionism has apparently become acceptable..... AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #124

You mean the idea that the New Deal permanently (thus far) staved off a more radical socialist nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #147

That's not the impression I got, to be truthful. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #159

I haven't actually read the book. I was thinking more of general leftist critiques of the New Deal. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #200

Well, okay. My apologies for the misunderstanding, then. nt AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #287

Yes, DU can be amusing, like when someone said that the Clean Air Act doesn't apply to San Francisco CreekDog Sep 2014 #243

Because I can. linuxman Sep 2014 #96

Your hostility and arrogance is noted. Cad Bane Sep 2014 #98

"Your hostility and arrogance is noted." The irony abounds here, sad to say. nt AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #114

Welcome to DU, and thank you for this OP. Heidi Sep 2014 #103

Before you automatically judge people RandySF Sep 2014 #126

That's a shame Recursion Sep 2014 #134

RandySF had a damn good point, TBH. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #172

Well, you need to get over yourself Recursion Sep 2014 #178

"Well, you need to get over yourself" Speak for yourself. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #179

I'm a SNAP and Medicaid caseworker Puzzledtraveller Sep 2014 #235

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2014 #130

Do you worry about being randomly shot by a cop or homeowner while walking down the street? Recursion Sep 2014 #132

+1000 nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #136

Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #137

Welcome to DU Recursion Sep 2014 #146

User has been flagged for review. alp227 Sep 2014 #155

Do you know what it is? Behind the Aegis Sep 2014 #138

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Better yet, why don't YOU give some examples. Behind the Aegis Sep 2014 #144

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So you were stopped for no reason? Behind the Aegis Sep 2014 #153

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So was it a checkpoint? You were just cruising along? They were cruising you? Behind the Aegis Sep 2014 #156

Easy: whites are pulled over and searched by police at vastly lower rates than blacks Recursion Sep 2014 #150

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Umm.....hello....Asians don't have privilege, either. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #163

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I'm sorry, but that's just plainly not true. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #167

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Re-read my post, please. nt AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #170

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Okay then. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #175

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"People are naturally suspicious of black folks because of their disproportionate crime rate." AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #196

Wait. You acknowledge institutional discrimination Recursion Sep 2014 #173

Yeah, it's hard for you to believe that I don't fit into your favorite little box, huh? nt AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #176

Ummm... the box of people who make sense? Recursion Sep 2014 #177

Except that they're not actually exactly the same thing. nt AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #181

"The box of people who make sense?" That made me laugh, good one. n/t betsuni Sep 2014 #182

Oh god, your posts in this thread are keeping me sane. Starry Messenger Sep 2014 #223

Back again? Behind the Aegis Sep 2014 #169

Because you're not listening? People talk about it. (nt) Recursion Sep 2014 #166

Thank You! freshwest Sep 2014 #139

I see it too often not to believe it exists. raven mad Sep 2014 #151

Honest question for you-What about those of us who did believe, once, but now don't? AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #180

I think it's fairly natural, if you've been basically raised raven mad Sep 2014 #184

Well, for one thing, I'm glad to hear your parents also saw the light of egalitarianism. =) AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #197

I think a lot of racism is fear. raven mad Sep 2014 #199

K&R! Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #158

Of course there is white privilege The Traveler Sep 2014 #185

Oh boy another hate filled post! whistler162 Sep 2014 #191

DAFUQQ? HATEFILLED? How is it hatefilled? You're kidding, right? Ecumenist Sep 2014 #209

they are not kidding heaven05 Sep 2014 #365

Gee, yet another courageous WP post. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #192

According to the TOS, DU is here in order to support politicians with a "D" after their name. djean111 Sep 2014 #193

The TOS is much longer and more involved than your claim. Behind the Aegis Sep 2014 #195

Who the fuck are you? pipoman Sep 2014 #208

I agree Hari Seldon Sep 2014 #210

Welcome to DU, Hari Seldon! Heidi Sep 2014 #214

I disagree with you re: white privilege, but I support social justice myself. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #289

Oh, and frankly I haven't seen anyone here denying inequality pipoman Sep 2014 #211

who the fuck are you heaven05 Sep 2014 #355

lol...who am I? who are you? oh wait, a 9 year old home with a runny nose I'm guessing... pipoman Sep 2014 #357

Insults the final refuge heaven05 Sep 2014 #361

Only an idiot or a 9 year old pipoman Sep 2014 #363

I laugh at your........... heaven05 Sep 2014 #364

We live in an unfair world when it comes to human perspective randr Sep 2014 #218

that's perspective heaven05 Sep 2014 #362

Because you're the decider? elias7 Sep 2014 #224

This is perhaps one of the best posts I've seen on here, IMHO. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #291

Wow, the tip o' the hat guy! elias7 Sep 2014 #346

Your post was spot on. delete_bush Sep 2014 #347

Excellent intellectual BS!!!! heaven05 Sep 2014 #354

You're not hearing where the disagreement lays elias7 Sep 2014 #369

what's to discuss? heaven05 Sep 2014 #370

Clearly nothing, as far as you're concerned. elias7 Sep 2014 #379

no heaven05 Sep 2014 #385

Yes, we did reject it. The reality of privilege objectively exists regardless of anyone's "feeling." ancianita Sep 2014 #225

and a lot didn't heaven05 Sep 2014 #371

Excellent post! Welcome to DU! nt MrScorpio Sep 2014 #230

I believe in oligarchy privilege or 1% privilege coyote Sep 2014 #231

I'm white subject Sep 2014 #239

the deniers on this thread heaven05 Sep 2014 #356

Just what we need is a progressive Southern Strategy sulphurdunn Sep 2014 #240

no waste of time heaven05 Sep 2014 #368

You will never sulphurdunn Sep 2014 #376

I'd bet a lot of it comes from experiencing it to some degree Curtis Sep 2014 #241

laudable attempt heaven05 Sep 2014 #242

Best 49th post in DU history! KamaAina Sep 2014 #245

I neither agree nor disagree but would put the number more at a few thousand and 49th. /nt Dragonfli Sep 2014 #248

Are you implying that the OP may be a sock puppet? KamaAina Sep 2014 #249

A returnee possibly as other past posts show, but that is allowed on DU3 unless they try to disrupt Dragonfli Sep 2014 #251

Do you know that humans can detect a trillion scents? delete_bush Sep 2014 #318

I guess rec'ing this makes people feel all warm and fuzzy that, "yeah, I'm not a racist Damansarajaya Sep 2014 #250

I think everyone needs to take a break and watch Amos and Andrew! BobbyBoring Sep 2014 #252

Seriously? cwydro Sep 2014 #257

I'm white but I believe in white privilege. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #253

Amen - except I don't understand why anyone would think that "Democrats" bread_and_roses Sep 2014 #264

If a white man drives or walks down the street and doesn't get hassled by the fuzz, while your Enthusiast Sep 2014 #268

The Democratic Party exists for more than a single issue. Xithras Sep 2014 #275

Didn't know that was a requirement ann--- Sep 2014 #276

Wow... TommyCelt Sep 2014 #277

Dealing with race and sexual preference fairly subject Sep 2014 #284

So true, yet male privilege still trumps white privilege Dont call me Shirley Sep 2014 #296

indeed subject Sep 2014 #300

Help me understand, please. 99Forever Sep 2014 #298

what term? subject Sep 2014 #303

The term that is the subject of the OP. 99Forever Sep 2014 #304

so that's a yes? subject Sep 2014 #310

That would be no. 99Forever Sep 2014 #316

Well I think that a person with low posting numbers should just keep quiet Android3.14 Sep 2014 #302

you've got a lot of nerve heaven05 Sep 2014 #378

The previous post was sarcasm Android3.14 Sep 2014 #384

Kick and Hell yes Recommend! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #311

i like this and thank you Quayblue Sep 2014 #325

326 ileus Sep 2014 #328

There are several reasons for the problem you have noticed, whereisjustice Sep 2014 #332

great intellectual dissection heaven05 Sep 2014 #367

K&r La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #336

GOP IS the party of White Privilege jimlup Sep 2014 #339

I agree. HuckleB Sep 2014 #341

I used to believe the line about Dems voting for Reagan was a lie. Notafraidtoo Sep 2014 #349

I've wondered about that subject. Ditto about people who have a hard time recognizing sexism. merrily Sep 2014 #352

I started to read the comments marym625 Sep 2014 #353

For those who think the stinking liberal lefty hippies who don't like some of Obama's policies or djean111 Sep 2014 #359

The terminology is getting complicated DFW Sep 2014 #386

If corporate, racist propaganda is easy to ignore, why is there a Republican Party? n/t Orsino Sep 2014 #387