If you don't believe in (recognize) white privilege why the fuck are you on a Democratic Forum?

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104. Yes, always good to say it

The fact is, there is a consensus on ACC. If I get upset when people just deny that it's happening, it's because their denial is literally killing us. It's all very well to talk about facts never being established and critique advancing science, I know all that (I'm a psychologist) but we are not talking about people who are interested in advancing science. We're talking about people, exactly like creationists, whose interest in science is purely in picking holes with it. Your need to say "well, there are 24 models" does nothing except give them room to wedge their denial into.

We are talking about people who refuse to accpt that climate change is happening (and that's not open to dispute, that's established fact) and/or refuse to accept humans are causing it. When you try lecturing them on the science, they pull out factoids they've got from some acceptable (to them, look up motivated learning) source and use them to try and pick holes in the science. When we get annoyed that they refuse to look facts in the face, they claim, just as you're doing, that we can't stand to see people question our theory so it must be wrong. Or they just claim it's a religion.

I spent about ten years working for Beliefnet. One thing I learned there, which studying psychology has allowed me to articulate and explain, is that when people have decided that the consensus is wrong, nothing, no amount of facts or argument, will ever change their mind.