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Xithras

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40. Cloud storage is a good concept. Current consumer grade clouds need more time to mature.
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 10:57 AM
Sep 2014

I regularly develop software for clients running on cloud platforms like Azure or AWS, and they all use multifactor authentication that is nearly unbreakable. You can't brute force multifactor, so the only way to infiltrate them is to find a direct exploit, which makes the cloud platforms no more or less dangerous than using a local datacenter.

The real problem is that consumer grade applications don't use multifactor because consumers generally don't know what it is, and instead rely on primitive username/password singlefactor authentication models that can be brute forced or cracked by anyone with a bit of time and resources. The username/password model is inherently and irreparably insecure, and yet nearly all consumer web and cloud applications still depend on them. Until we can move past the password, we'll never really make cloud storage safe.

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I agree the Internet should be thought of as a public space where there is no expectation of privacy justiceischeap Sep 2014 #1
100 years from now our conception of privacy will be as amusing to the people of that time el_bryanto Sep 2014 #2
Quite true IMO! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2014 #4
No doubt. justiceischeap Sep 2014 #6
Privacy when I was growing up- had 2 older brothers who shared a bedroom during school year KittyWampus Sep 2014 #41
Growing up I'm sure most of us had a lack justiceischeap Sep 2014 #50
I have thought about using an ICloud program yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #31
It isn't fair to call people stupid gollygee Sep 2014 #3
Nothing is ever Apple's fault. They are perfect. tridim Sep 2014 #7
I must assume gollygee Sep 2014 #10
I am an Apple user and have been for many years justiceischeap Sep 2014 #16
I wood agree jollyreaper2112 Sep 2014 #28
Gotta love those freudian slips! savalez Sep 2014 #47
More victim-blaming rationalization? Hissyspit Sep 2014 #5
The "cloud" has existed longer than there has been an internet. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #8
I have been in the Cloud Industry for a while HipChick Sep 2014 #9
Like "free" VPN and proxy servers being private/secure. LOL! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2014 #17
"free" is it? Last I knew people had to buy a piece of hardware pipoman Sep 2014 #21
Quite true! It's marketing rebranding for the masses! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2014 #15
But it's really good for them to allow you to use a file without actually having the file in the.... JVS Sep 2014 #11
I think it's a riot that the original idea of a personal computer was so you could be Demit Sep 2014 #12
I refuse to upgrade to Adobe's cloud bullshit Atman Sep 2014 #13
CC does not require you to upload your project files, fyi. greyl Sep 2014 #27
Good point. randome Sep 2014 #23
I have access to the entire Adobe software catalog. tridim Sep 2014 #32
I wan't referring to hard drive memory size. I think you missed my point. Demit Sep 2014 #64
I try not rely on it Puzzledtraveller Sep 2014 #14
UHHH---me thinks you don't really understand the errr cloud. trumad Sep 2014 #18
+1, n/t RKP5637 Sep 2014 #26
2nd that HipChick Sep 2014 #49
EBCDIC was probably the very worst Recursion Sep 2014 #19
EBCDIC was an elegant solution to the problem it solved hootinholler Sep 2014 #24
Nah. The invention of the Null Reference was probably the worst idea ever. Xithras Sep 2014 #36
Don't confuse poor implementation with a poor idea. n/t BadgerKid Sep 2014 #20
Exactly! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2014 #29
works great for storing and accessing my digital purchases though eShirl Sep 2014 #22
Our resident Apple shill is oddly quiet about this. nt Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #25
He can't "handle" it. savalez Sep 2014 #42
Saved my friends thousands of dollars... JaneyVee Sep 2014 #30
That is 100 percent why I am torn by the Cloud yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #33
Was that an Apple hard drive? Orrex Sep 2014 #34
Apple doesn't make hard drives... Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2014 #52
I know Orrex Sep 2014 #54
That's why I bought a 2tb backup drive... Atman Sep 2014 #35
I have one of those too shanti Sep 2014 #61
It's a great idea IF you don't expect privacy. FLPanhandle Sep 2014 #37
This is why I hoard flash drives tabbycat31 Sep 2014 #38
I'm with you. Staph Sep 2014 #60
Yeah the cloud is as dumb as online banking or bill pay or ordering goods from Amazon. dilby Sep 2014 #39
Cloud storage is a good concept. Current consumer grade clouds need more time to mature. Xithras Sep 2014 #40
Worse than the Zune? KamaAina Sep 2014 #43
It definitely ranks high on the list. bemildred Sep 2014 #44
The worst idea in tech history? Really? Glassunion Sep 2014 #45
I miss the days of the Deathstars. n/t dilby Sep 2014 #46
We recently had a batch of 60Gb SSDs drives. Glassunion Sep 2014 #56
Or that other lump of sh*t, Windows Vista ffr Sep 2014 #63
The US goverment are heavy into cloud storage HipChick Sep 2014 #48
Are you confident that the wireless transmission inside your home is any more secure? pnwmom Sep 2014 #51
I think Facebook has it beat <eom> CentralMass Sep 2014 #53
The Cloud is fine, but you shouldn't just put anything on it. ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #55
Never on Internet. JEFF9K Sep 2014 #57
It's not stupid, it's about money. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #58
^^ THIS! Atman Sep 2014 #62
I never thought the cloud was a good idea kimbutgar Sep 2014 #59
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