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Thu Sep 4, 2014, 03:32 AM Sep 2014

Why the Ukraine Crisis Is the West’s Fault [View all]

ForeignAffairs.com - published by the Council on Foreign Relations
John J. Mearsheimer September/October 2014


A man takes a picture as he stands on a Soviet-style star re-touched with blue paint so that it resembles the Ukrainian flag, Moscow, August 20, 2014. (Maxim Shemetov / Courtesy Reuters)

According to the prevailing wisdom in the West, the Ukraine crisis can be blamed almost entirely on Russian aggression. Russian President Vladimir Putin, the argument goes, annexed Crimea out of a long-standing desire to resuscitate the Soviet empire, and he may eventually go after the rest of Ukraine, as well as other countries in eastern Europe. In this view, the ouster of Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych in February 2014 merely provided a pretext for Putin’s decision to order Russian forces to seize part of Ukraine.

But this account is wrong: the United States and its European allies share most of the responsibility for the crisis. The taproot of the trouble is NATO enlargement, the central element of a larger strategy to move Ukraine out of Russia’s orbit and integrate it into the West. At the same time, the EU’s expansion eastward and the West’s backing of the pro-democracy movement in Ukraine -- beginning with the Orange Revolution in 2004 -- were critical elements, too. Since the mid-1990s, Russian leaders have adamantly opposed NATO enlargement, and in recent years, they have made it clear that they would not stand by while their strategically important neighbor turned into a Western bastion. For Putin, the illegal overthrow of Ukraine’s democratically elected and pro-Russian president -- which he rightly labeled a “coup” -- was the final straw. He responded by taking Crimea, a peninsula he feared would host a NATO naval base, and working to destabilize Ukraine until it abandoned its efforts to join the West.

Putin’s pushback should have come as no surprise. After all, the West had been moving into Russia’s backyard and threatening its core strategic interests, a point Putin made emphatically and repeatedly. Elites in the United States and Europe have been blindsided by events only because they subscribe to a flawed view of international politics. They tend to believe that the logic of realism holds little relevance in the twenty-first century and that Europe can be kept whole and free on the basis of such liberal principles as the rule of law, economic interdependence, and democracy.

But this grand scheme went awry in Ukraine. The crisis there shows that realpolitik remains relevant -- and states that ignore it do so at their own peril. U.S. and European leaders blundered in attempting to turn Ukraine into a Western stronghold on Russia’s border. Now that the consequences have been laid bare, it would be an even greater mistake to continue this misbegotten policy.

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"Fuck the EU"- Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland
Wife of PNAC Co-Founder Robert Kagan

Transcript of Nuland Phone Call
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957
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Why the Ukraine Crisis Is the West’s Fault [View all] nationalize the fed Sep 2014 OP
Thanks for posting this newfie11 Sep 2014 #1
Thank you - More people need to understand that this was a neocon operation and there are reasons newthinking Sep 2014 #2
Have you read anything about Mearsheimer? Are_grits_groceries Sep 2014 #3
It all started with Bushco's neo-con velvet revolutions malaise Sep 2014 #4
I rather like the idea of a "backyard". Igel Sep 2014 #5
Well I suggest you read up on the Monroe Doctrine malaise Sep 2014 #8
Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact and Warsaw Pact are more apt. joshcryer Sep 2014 #11
Does the Soviet Union still exist? another_liberal Sep 2014 #15
No but a certain Russian politician considers its demise "the greatest geopolitical tragedy of the pampango Sep 2014 #24
If I were Russian, I might agree with him . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #29
I agree with you. It is odd to me that Putin does not agree with you, too. pampango Sep 2014 #33
Sweden and Finland are going to join NATO davidpdx Sep 2014 #19
You are confusing the United States with the Neocon policies that ARE always wrong, unless sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #34
So Vicky Nuland is the wife of a founding member of "The Project for the New American Century?" another_liberal Sep 2014 #6
Of course, women are defined by their husbands' views. Are men defined by their wives' views? pampango Sep 2014 #21
Oh, I think she is well represented by her own views alone . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #26
Then, as we do with men, lets talk about her own views, not her spouse's. n/t pampango Sep 2014 #35
Ok, She is awful . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #42
She was Bill Clinton's deputy director for former Soviet Union affairs. hack89 Sep 2014 #22
More is the pity then. another_liberal Sep 2014 #25
She is doing a good job hack89 Sep 2014 #28
Sure she is . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #30
I doubt that Ms. Nuland has said "Fuck the EU!" nearly as often as Mr. Putin has. pampango Sep 2014 #36
Mr. Putin doesn't represent my country . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #43
She is there to look after US interests hack89 Sep 2014 #37
She represents US interests . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #44
She's doing a good job because she got somebody riled up? MattSh Sep 2014 #38
Should Ukraine be allowed to join NATO if it wants to? (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #7
And another question . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #13
So a few hundred people held a demonstration. Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #16
That is only one of many such demonstrations in western Ukraine . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #17
+1000 nt. polly7 Sep 2014 #39
Maybe this helps... MattSh Sep 2014 #41
Well said! another_liberal Sep 2014 #45
... SidDithers Sep 2014 #9
Surprise, former members of the Warsaw Pact move away from Russia influence. joshcryer Sep 2014 #10
. stonecutter357 Sep 2014 #12
Ukraine is not Russia's backyard, it is a sovereign state. Also, he whines about geek tragedy Sep 2014 #14
No one could have put it better! randome Sep 2014 #20
I don't think it's just an "reflexive anti-American crowd" on DU. It's about feeling superior- KittyWampus Sep 2014 #31
In the early 2000s, the Austrian government formed a coalition government with Neo-Nazis Anarcho-Socialist Sep 2014 #18
Did Austria NEED economic and military aid? KittyWampus Sep 2014 #32
Ugh. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #23
Yes, exactly, a "March of Folly", to use Ms Tuchman's term, if I ever saw one. bemildred Sep 2014 #27
I can tell people are getting scared Blue_Tires Sep 2014 #40
We invaded alright, with dollars used to destabilize the government . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #46
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