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DetlefK

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10. Read the article. It's because of societal and psychological (alcohol-abuse) problems.

Thu Sep 4, 2014, 09:10 AM

Sep 2014

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The article says that Russia has lower birth- and higher death-rates, because it is permeated with some depressing attitude.

I remember an interview a russian woman gave on TV. She said something like the Soviet Union stole their optimism. The Soviet Union had the attitude that a citizen has to sacrifice personal wealth and personal happiness for the well-being of the state. And even though the Soviet Union no longer exists, she said, people that lived in it are unable to shake off that indoctrination that it's your duty to sacrifice yourself and that you are not entitled to happiness.

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Heck of a job, Putin. Post Soviet Russian mortality rates rise. [View all] edhopper Sep 2014 OP

I would think the reasons would be more complex treestar Sep 2014 #1

Which the current government edhopper Sep 2014 #3

He was not the dictator from 1991 treestar Sep 2014 #13

17 years ago edhopper Sep 2014 #19

I'm sorry, but I can't accept this so-called evidence... brooklynite Sep 2014 #2

LOL edhopper Sep 2014 #4

This post is useless without a list of every Western war crime of the last 50 years NuclearDem Sep 2014 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author chrisa Sep 2014 #55

Also useless without false equivalencies between something the US did years ago and now. chrisa Sep 2014 #56

I really think his war of conquest in Ukraine is an attempt to distract the Russian populace from stevenleser Sep 2014 #5

completely agree edhopper Sep 2014 #6

Good observation...nt SidDithers Sep 2014 #18

Exactly...and his winning that war while we and NATO do nothing... joeybee12 Sep 2014 #34

Yesterday a jackass told me I couldn't..... NCTraveler Sep 2014 #7

The causes are just a Google away GliderGuider Sep 2014 #8

The article seems to suggest that Russians who drink more than others live longer stevenleser Sep 2014 #9

??? LisaL Sep 2014 #26

I was talking about this paragraph in the article... stevenleser Sep 2014 #29

Read the article. It's because of societal and psychological (alcohol-abuse) problems. DetlefK Sep 2014 #10

So it seems. It also seems that since Putin directly or indirectly has been in power since 1999 stevenleser Sep 2014 #11

So you are saying edhopper Sep 2014 #12

Is he supposed to issue a presidential decree? "Stop dying!" DetlefK Sep 2014 #14

So what has gotten worse edhopper Sep 2014 #17

It didn't get worse since Putin came to power. LisaL Sep 2014 #22

So the government has nothing to do with quality of life edhopper Sep 2014 #24

That's pretty pathetic apologia there. Gov'ts have no responsibility for their citizens' QOL? stevenleser Sep 2014 #31

Life was better under Socialism malaise Sep 2014 #15

There doesn't seem to be a lot of improvement edhopper Sep 2014 #16

When a kleptocratic Oligarchy openly steals 60-70% of every dollar earned through every means of stevenleser Sep 2014 #32

Actually Jeffrey Sachs and the IMF moved in first malaise Sep 2014 #42

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2014 #20

You do understand that Putin was not in charge of Russia in the mid-1990s? Or no? LisaL Sep 2014 #21

I guess we should discount the last 14 years then edhopper Sep 2014 #23

Putin has no responsibility or effect other than rescuing the self proclaimed hero Snowden. stevenleser Sep 2014 #30

By the logic I see here edhopper Sep 2014 #25

From what I've read life in Russia is pretty hard. leftyladyfrommo Sep 2014 #27

Russian GDP under Putin edhopper Sep 2014 #33

+1000 joeybee12 Sep 2014 #35

My #32 above speaks to this. A good example is what happened with the Sochi Olympics stevenleser Sep 2014 #36

It is income inequality that has hit Russians even worse than Americans. GDP is growing as is pampango Sep 2014 #47

OP, you should delete this. Russian lifespan under Putin LittleBlue Sep 2014 #37

What is the source for the graph and is its datasource better than the book in the OP? nt stevenleser Sep 2014 #39

Forbes LittleBlue Sep 2014 #40

Life expectancy and mortality rates edhopper Sep 2014 #41

Apples and oranges. OP and I am talking about lifespan LittleBlue Sep 2014 #43

I see edhopper Sep 2014 #45

Thank you LittleBlue Sep 2014 #46

LOL, now I anxiously await a post with a RT link that claims Russian quality of life FSogol Sep 2014 #38

Yep. The paid operatives must be taking a vodka break. Amonester Sep 2014 #44

Awaiting further instructions from Fearless Leader! FSogol Sep 2014 #48

So were they a couple edhopper Sep 2014 #49

Different last names, plus i think they were both in love with Fearless Leader. FSogol Sep 2014 #51

Radiation RobertEarl Sep 2014 #50

From the article edhopper Sep 2014 #52

Cancer is not the only effect RobertEarl Sep 2014 #53

That's interesting edhopper Sep 2014 #54