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elehhhhna

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63. Thanks will --

Thu Sep 4, 2014, 04:42 PM

Sep 2014

She was the first female comedian to work like a man. Phyllis, Totie, and Moms were funny but Joan was RAW. LIKE A GOOD MALE COMEDIAN. Standup only - no character/ensemble work for her...she was FIRed FROM THE sECOND city (MY ALMA MATER, BTW) oops, caps, sorry, because she was a stagehog (couldn't help it) who pulled all the focus and had the fastest verbal skills possible. They said "you need the stage to yourself - go do standup". She did.

Comedy take risks. Some lines fail. 81 year old comedians who are still improvising fresh lines in real time deserve some respect. Her politics are not mine, but she was brutal when talking of all things. Brutal. That was her style.

She was funniest when self-deprecating. She had a big heart, and a big mouth.

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So, Joan Rivers said terrible things? She was grating? [View all] WilliamPitt Sep 2014 OP

If any of them had made the kind of comments she made about LittleBlue Sep 2014 #1

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2014 #5

Thanks for the kick WilliamPitt Sep 2014 #6

agreed. calling michelle obama a tranny as well. she was unbearable in her commentary and roguevalley Sep 2014 #109

I think for the super majority are keeping her death classy yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #130

I look at her lifetime legacy hlthe2b Sep 2014 #2

Yes, she did ann--- Sep 2014 #3

Thank you! My sentiment exactly re Joan Rivers. LibGranny Sep 2014 #33

her karma was to work and be a star til she was 81 and die in no pain elehhhhna Sep 2014 #64

Karma is BS amuse bouche Sep 2014 #73

Karma is misunderstood by most Americans. nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #89

Well if they understood it had to do with reincarnation and previous lives amuse bouche Sep 2014 #117

Yes! I am so sick of hearing about karma. zonkers Sep 2014 #156

I agree. n/t Paper Roses Sep 2014 #37

Agree. and now Melissa can start living hER life..not as a prop in her Mom's life. SoCalDem Sep 2014 #43

Yep....I really like Melissa ann--- Sep 2014 #47

never thought of her as a comedian PatrynXX Sep 2014 #48

the first 45 years of her career she was a top comedian elehhhhna Sep 2014 #65

You must be young leftynyc Sep 2014 #134

You didn't get Don Rickles HERVEPA Sep 2014 #78

She was one of a kind. That said... JaneyVee Sep 2014 #4

Do you really want to know? I doubt it. MineralMan Sep 2014 #7

At the end, Joan wanted to shock, because she thought that people were far joeybee12 Sep 2014 #8

She wanted to be another Don Rickles. DocMac Sep 2014 #85

Being an insult comic means walking a very fine line Lurks Often Sep 2014 #9

Joan was not for the faint of heart... kentuck Sep 2014 #10

Feints: MineralMan Sep 2014 #19

Thanks! kentuck Sep 2014 #23

Just couldn't resist... MineralMan Sep 2014 #95

"What's the difference?" Being funny. TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #11

My Thoughts RobinA Sep 2014 #146

Joan Rivers would be PPRed on DU within a week. MineralMan Sep 2014 #12

So would most people outside of the very devoted B2G Sep 2014 #13

+1 xchrom Sep 2014 #15

Yep. I liked her - may 840high Sep 2014 #116

Not in the least. Nt Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #14

Being quiet and nice does not make for change underpants Sep 2014 #16

i do. lack of concern for dead children makes me care roguevalley Sep 2014 #110

Well, if it were your ethnic group she had wished death upon, you might care Scootaloo Sep 2014 #153

My condolences to her family. May she rest in peace. Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2014 #17

You know what they say. If you can't say something nice about someone, Baitball Blogger Sep 2014 #18

distaste of her MFM008 Sep 2014 #20

I saw Joan Rivers in person at a convention many years ago. Jenoch Sep 2014 #21

That's all well and good, but what was she wearing? Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2014 #22

I don't even get that joke, except for Ilsa Sep 2014 #26

It's a reference to many from Ireland having red hair LordGlenconner Sep 2014 #30

You never heard of the carpet matching the drapes? And Ireland has a lot of gingers. nt msanthrope Sep 2014 #101

I guess I'm naive. That is one expression Ilsa Sep 2014 #111

Translation: "Does s/he dye his/her hair?" emulatorloo Sep 2014 #136

She was a pioneer and tough as nails emulatorloo Sep 2014 #137

I have nothing good I can say about her so I'll leave it at that. nt Raine Sep 2014 #24

She made the Michelle comments three years ago, at least ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2014 #25

The main thing about her that bothered me was her obsession over other women's looks Arugula Latte Sep 2014 #27

Yep. progressoid Sep 2014 #100

She wasn't my style of comedian. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #28

My current favorite comment on any subject. TNNurse Sep 2014 #69

I could take her or leave her. But I hope she rests in peace Ilsa Sep 2014 #29

Well said! To brand her a "racist" is both unnecessary... Anansi1171 Sep 2014 #31

I'll give it a day... Catherine Vincent Sep 2014 #32

She called the First Lady "Blackie-O" and a "Tranny" 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #34

She made jokes at Barbara Bush's expense, too HomerRamone Sep 2014 #50

meh. never gave her much thought as a comedienne. then she turned into a boring pseudo-celeb. KG Sep 2014 #35

This ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2014 #39

Same here deutsey Sep 2014 #122

I never found her particularly funny. Later, her shtick became just dishing other people. Tiresome. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #36

And don't forget Phyllis Diller! Lars39 Sep 2014 #41

One of my favorites! NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #46

Glad to hear that! Lars39 Sep 2014 #51

Oh, Phyllis Diller was great! ann--- Sep 2014 #49

I had to think about this a minute... ReRe Sep 2014 #38

The red carpet/fashion/reality show schtick was about as funny as a tooth ache NightWatcher Sep 2014 #40

Louis CK? I don't think so. PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #42

NO. Duppers Sep 2014 #44

Should be alerted for ageism Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #45

Oh, for God's sake. WilliamPitt Sep 2014 #56

And the kitten's Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #71

Exactly how in the wide world of fuck WilliamPitt Sep 2014 #77

What are you the ministry of truth. EDIT FAIL Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #82

Nice try, but she said a stupid shit OVER THE YEARS.. not just in her final days. n/t Dawgs Sep 2014 #124

you're hurting their widdle feelings Skittles Sep 2014 #120

Go ahead... by all means alert. LanternWaste Sep 2014 #150

Alert this Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #155

couldn't stand her eom LittleGirl Sep 2014 #52

Even as a fan of shock comedy, she wasn't my cup of tea... conservaphobe Sep 2014 #53

Wait, wut? You're able to diagnose a deteriorating mind all the way from Boston Sopkoviak Sep 2014 #54

silly H2O Man Sep 2014 #57

Enjoy your stay! Rex Sep 2014 #157

I'm with you for the most part caraher Sep 2014 #55

She was an abusive drunk Politicalboi Sep 2014 #58

she didn't die of old age or dementia lapfog_1 Sep 2014 #59

K and R for a pioneer bigwillq Sep 2014 #60

Funny, how we're always on the same page. +1 ScreamingMeemie Sep 2014 #61

Go, Pack, Go! bigwillq Sep 2014 #62

! ScreamingMeemie Sep 2014 #67

Thanks will -- elehhhhna Sep 2014 #63

The only reason I had respect for Joan Rivers…. cab67 Sep 2014 #66

What the actual fuck CrawlingChaos Sep 2014 #68

Right Wing? dbackjon Sep 2014 #84

As I specified, the "pure greed" variety CrawlingChaos Sep 2014 #87

Link? dbackjon Sep 2014 #97

Here you go CrawlingChaos Sep 2014 #98

They tend to be pro-Israeli dbackjon Sep 2014 #99

Jesus fucking Christ! Does everything have to be reduced... LostInAnomie Sep 2014 #70

and misogyny amuse bouche Sep 2014 #76

Brilliant job proving my point. LostInAnomie Sep 2014 #81

If it's so brilliant, why are you banging your head? amuse bouche Sep 2014 #112

*sigh* Because you proved my point. LostInAnomie Sep 2014 #119

I never liked her, for the same reasons. Chemisse Sep 2014 #107

"And I am female" amuse bouche Sep 2014 #114

Lol, now you are really looking silly! nt Logical Sep 2014 #125

Only silly to churlish ignoramuses amuse bouche Sep 2014 #138

Ahhhh, some one is grumpy! Nap time! nt Logical Sep 2014 #140

Good for you amuse bouche Sep 2014 #141

Temper, temper! nt Logical Sep 2014 #148

This message was self-deleted by its author Logical Sep 2014 #139

When an issue pipi_k Sep 2014 #133

Since you seemed inclined to blame attitudes toward Rivers on gender bias, Chemisse Sep 2014 #159

Her last comments about Palestinians was about as nasty as you can get. Not comedy..rank hatefulnes kelliekat44 Sep 2014 #118

Joan gets a complete pass from me. She can do no wrong BlueJazz Sep 2014 #72

Will, it's not really about *who* said it, but what was said. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #74

Never cared for her pipi_k Sep 2014 #75

I first saw her on the Jack Paar show (the first Tonight show) frogmarch Sep 2014 #79

I think there was a big change in her demeanor and sufrommich Sep 2014 #83

She's no Amy Poehler. sufrommich Sep 2014 #80

It is of no surprise that upon a celebrities death, posters will pick apart that persons life. Inkfreak Sep 2014 #86

Some might want to read this article: savannah43 Sep 2014 #88

BRILLIANT. That's what makes comedy sacred. nolabear Sep 2014 #96

she was brilliant. spanone Sep 2014 #90

I admired her. She was fiercely independent. AtomicKitten Sep 2014 #91

Truly one of the our best comediennes. The Midway Rebel Sep 2014 #92

She lost me this summer. When she said what she said about Gaza. applegrove Sep 2014 #93

While we're at it Capt. Obvious Sep 2014 #94

OK, you asked for it: Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2014 #102

Ugh Capt. Obvious Sep 2014 #127

But he makes a wacky voice so you know he's being funny....... Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2014 #128

So you have no problem with people making racially offensive hateful statements? Cad Bane Sep 2014 #103

Actually that isn't what the OP said. still_one Sep 2014 #105

He tried to shield her by saying she was no worse than some other guys. Cad Bane Sep 2014 #106

I don't think he was trying to shield her, but point out in his view there is a double standard, still_one Sep 2014 #108

It was interesting when Bill Maher came to Clint Eastwood's defense for his tea party like skit still_one Sep 2014 #104

I don't care for any of them, including Rivers, except for maybe Richard Pryor. n/t phylny Sep 2014 #113

Thanks for editing out your comments on her "insane gibberish" about Michelle Obama (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #115

"Obama is a POS used car salesman." - William Pitt joshcryer Sep 2014 #121

Some of us don't find those characteristics attractive, Ms. Toad Sep 2014 #123

So she sold out in her last decades. Orsino Sep 2014 #126

"My vagina is like Newark. Men know it's there... Eleanors38 Sep 2014 #129

While I do think that this is not the time to criticize her, I can honestly say karynnj Sep 2014 #131

A comic's job Rye Bread Pizza Sep 2014 #132

I didn't find her funny Prophet 451 Sep 2014 #135

Never? Not in 50 years? WinkyDink Sep 2014 #143

Well, I haven't seen her entire body of work Prophet 451 Sep 2014 #149

Court jesters aren't supposed to be "nice," especially to very powerful people. WinkyDink Sep 2014 #142

Shark. Jumped. *koff* LadyHawkAZ Sep 2014 #144

I'm more concerned with the jingoistic, racist, and genocidal things than anything "grating" MisterP Sep 2014 #145

She Was Judged Differently RobinA Sep 2014 #147

Her comments about the Palestinians wasn't an "act". ForgoTheConsequence Sep 2014 #151

Except for Richard Pryor Faux pas Sep 2014 #152

Her comments about the Palestinians were hard to hear - TBF Sep 2014 #154

Eh I don't see any misogyny... Feron Sep 2014 #158

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