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In reply to the discussion: Russell Brand: "When I was poor and I complained ..." [View all]merrily
(45,251 posts)90. Actually, the snopes article did not answer my question.
The Snopes article is about something she did not do. The Snopes article seems pretty clear as to the reasons she supposedly apologized. Looks as though her career and/or studio may have required it. And I would like to hear the wording and full context of those apologies. Was it, "I did a horrible thing (if so what, exactly) and I could not be sorrier?" Or was it one of those faux apologies?
Also, recall that Fonda went very fundie religious at some point, to the point that it reportedly broke up her marriage. Heaven only knows what resulted from that.
That picture (no fake) was what really stirred many people up.
A photo. Big deal. The right is always getting stirred up about something or other.
just thought she went overboard for a while
Again, what specifically are you referring to, besides a photo? She was an anti war activist. So was Joan Baez. So was Muhammed Ali. So were many clergy. So was Dr. Spock. So was Pete Seeger. So were many others. They were all right.
People did things that got them arrested and jailed and she *gasp* traveled to Vietnam to try to end a war? And *gasps* clutches pearls* took a photo?
55000 dead on the American side alone? For that mess? I can barely imagine any photo or effort to expose and stop that mess that I would consider "overboard." But please, be specific. Did she maybe inform the North Vietnamese of our military secrets in advance of a battle?
"Hanoi Jane" was the nickname many gave her at that time, as she expressed so much sympathy for their side.
I would bet a lot that no one on the left gave her that name. Sounds exactly like something Limbaugh would say. Doesn't mean there is truth to it. The right gave her a nickname and that's somehow supposed to prove her anti-Vietnam War activism was wrong?
Ffs, the right calls Obama and other Democrats everything you can imagine. Fifty years from now, someone could offer that as proof of how awful and over the top Socialist Muslim Kenyan Obama was, just as you are doing to Fonda now.
I gather you weren't around yet during that time.
Whether I was or not, it could not be more irrelevant. I wasn't around in 1776 or 1863 and I post about those eras often. I am around now. I have no secret info about this era. Neither do you, I assume.
The relevant question for posting is not whether you or I were around, but what we are posting. You say you were around, yet you've offered very little that is specific or compelling. No matter what the era, I would have been to your left, just as I am now.
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I think it's a class-sociopathy. Ask George Bush for a dollar and he's apt to tell you
rhett o rick
Sep 2014
#21
Yes, I've seen some examples of this in my own lifetime, during the "Coal Boom"m"
maddiemom
Sep 2014
#34
WTF? Why are you defending yourself? Isn't this a part of the American Dream?
maddiemom
Sep 2014
#35
I own an apartment in Italy as well as a home in a Chicago suburb.
Fortinbras Armstrong
Sep 2014
#80
So because you don't personally like him you failed to grasp the content of what he said? n/t
cui bono
Sep 2014
#71
Yeah! He should stop working and spend himself back into extreme poverty. Just like YOU
Taitertots
Sep 2014
#42
Other than donating money to various causes (some to help the poor) and raising money for charities,
hughee99
Sep 2014
#25
Well, let's agree that Brand could do more. His speaking out is a good start,
maddiemom
Sep 2014
#37
And if he gave all of his money to eliminate poverty how far would it go?
A Simple Game
Sep 2014
#74
You then believe financial charities are the only mechanism with which to address change?
LanternWaste
Sep 2014
#14
And if he were middle class,they would call him bitter,and hypocritical.
athenasatanjesus
Sep 2014
#12
Must be in the education. Maybe we need to bring some of the British teaching methods here. n/t
Cleita
Sep 2014
#43
Out of the mouth of........Russell Brand. How very true of the accusations of all
maddiemom
Sep 2014
#31
Uh....were you around in the late sixties, early seventies? And I'm a liberal, so
maddiemom
Sep 2014
#86
That ONE incident mentioned in didn't take place ( re: POW letters). Otherwise
maddiemom
Sep 2014
#89
No secret info, just that I lived through that time and knew the controversy and
maddiemom
Sep 2014
#92
So what do you disagree with that he said or has said as a "political pundit"? n/t
cui bono
Sep 2014
#73
TPTB don't want us talking about inequality, but the fruits it bears increasingly leaves its
indepat
Sep 2014
#51
If rich liberals want to change the world, they should buy radio stations
mountain grammy
Sep 2014
#64