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MannyGoldstein

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89. Pshaw... it's like observing that water is wet

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Hillary: Kissinger Stands Up for American Values [View all] markpkessinger Sep 2014 OP

Kissinger Stands Up for American Values? About as much as Dick Cheney Autumn Sep 2014 #1

Corn's last paragraph says it all . . . markpkessinger Sep 2014 #2

So Very True... Love David Corn... n/t ChiciB1 Sep 2014 #9

Yup, right on the money; Corn has Hillary pegged. Time for Hillary to exit stage right. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2014 #101

I think the lowest she has gone was when she gave up her integrity to George Bush, The Dim-Son. rhett o rick Sep 2014 #111

And this is who I'm supposed to unquestionly Le Taz Hot Sep 2014 #3

It would be laughable if it wasn't so serious. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2014 #103

Please Hillary, stop making it impossible for me to vote for you. enough Sep 2014 #4

+1 trumad Sep 2014 #5

She's certainly making it harder and harder for me to vote for her! n/t markpkessinger Sep 2014 #6

I'm wondering if it may be a cry for help. Gidney N Cloyd Sep 2014 #10

Lol if you were making a joke. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2014 #12

Please Hillary keep being honest so we won't vote for you. morningfog Sep 2014 #90

Yup. That's where I'm at! FiveGoodMen Sep 2014 #131

This times a googolplex. hifiguy Sep 2014 #149

Amen.... daleanime Sep 2014 #137

She did that for me a long time ago (n/t) bread_and_roses Sep 2014 #144

That is disgusting. Kissinger is an amoral scumbag. BillZBubb Sep 2014 #7

WOW, The Crap Just Keeps Rolling Along! ChiciB1 Sep 2014 #8

Nope, I'm right there with you. Nominating and electing Hillary will be a disaster for this country, mark my words. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2014 #104

Oh you're definitely are not alone PatSeg Sep 2014 #133

Kissinger, the Evil Undead. scarletwoman Sep 2014 #11

+10000000000.... bread_and_roses Sep 2014 #145

Praising Kissinger is bad, yes. But David Corn? wyldwolf Sep 2014 #13

Chris Matthews has issues...but appearing on his show is worse than praising a war criminal? Ken Burch Sep 2014 #16

did anyone say it was worse? wyldwolf Sep 2014 #17

Not comparable at all. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #21

Completely comparable. Corn is a hypocrite. wyldwolf Sep 2014 #25

Does what you think about Corn as a person mean HRC's endorsement of Kissinger doesn't matter? Ken Burch Sep 2014 #26

Are we going to keep going around in this circle? Are you even reading my posts? wyldwolf Sep 2014 #27

I read your post. Chris Matthews is NOT comparable to Henry Kissinger. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #36

Apparently you didn't because you had to ask that silly question: wyldwolf Sep 2014 #39

This is a delusional set of posts DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2014 #43

and that is a delusional reply wyldwolf Sep 2014 #46

Again, Corn doesn't matter here. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #54

Says who? Of course he matters. He wrote the piece in the OP. wyldwolf Sep 2014 #57

Corn isn't the one who may run for the presidency. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #102

You have an indefensible argument Scootaloo Sep 2014 #119

an unfathomable amount of cognitive dissonance frylock Sep 2014 #150

No it doesn't Ken Burch Sep 2014 #44

Yes it does wyldwolf Sep 2014 #51

Even if Corn was a hypocrite, he doesn't matter. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #56

Of course it matters. He wrote the piece in the OP. wyldwolf Sep 2014 #59

Here you are again, further along in the thread and still making ChisolmTrailDem Sep 2014 #73

Ken, this guy has a very solid history of circle jerking strawman, I think he was in diapers 2banon Sep 2014 #171

Post 13 clearly stated that no one thought Bush would go to war Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #49

psst! that's not what me and KenBurch are discussing. wyldwolf Sep 2014 #52

I have froth on my lips? Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #62

show me, in the discussion between Ken Burch and myself, the topic you're obsessed with? wyldwolf Sep 2014 #65

I already quoted it for you directly Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #74

dude, Ken and I were discussing whether I though this book review from HRC was a bad thing. wyldwolf Sep 2014 #76

Of course you covered it, you were the one who posted the words that I quoted Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #79

If you'll look at the conversation, him and I never cover that. BUT... and this is a big one... wyldwolf Sep 2014 #80

We are not talking about a prior thread, we are talking about this thread and the words you posted Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #85

Whatever, man. wyldwolf Sep 2014 #87

You are obsessed with the happenstance that David Corn happened to write this. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #64

You think it's a happenstance that David Corn happened to write this? wyldwolf Sep 2014 #68

If Corn hadn't written that, someone else would have. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #75

several have written commentaries on it. None took the insidious tone of Corn's wyldwolf Sep 2014 #78

It IS insidious. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #81

and, like a true hypocrite, he'll be singing HRC's praises this time next year wyldwolf Sep 2014 #83

He might endorse her as the lesser-evil AFTER the convention...NOT in Sept 2015("a year from now"). Ken Burch Sep 2014 #100

Your circle.... pocoloco Sep 2014 #175

Let's both take a pledge. MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #115

How about pledging not to vote for any politician who was previously a Republican... Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #116

Like a Goldwater girl? MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #117

OK....Deal? Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #118

Not the same thing. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #120

Why are you talking about Corn here when Hillary, and what she has ChisolmTrailDem Sep 2014 #69

He's denouncing Corn because he thinks Corn's authorship of the link discredits the story. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #86

Forgive us if we missed your point. Seems to me like you were saying that H. Clinton-Sachs is rhett o rick Sep 2014 #113

Wow. CNN revived Cross Fire and Van Jones is co hosting the show with Newt Gingrich???!!!! 2banon Sep 2014 #168

It's been on for awhile now, and Van's doing just fine. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #169

I don't do cable or sat.. wasn't aware.. 2banon Sep 2014 #172

"I doubt that anyone thought an American president would ever start a war"? arcane1 Sep 2014 #34

Whoever wrote that is extremely ignorant Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #38

Praising Kissinger is bad yes, so let's attack the messenger!!! cui bono Sep 2014 #45

Yes indeed. The Distractivists are out in force. RufusTFirefly Sep 2014 #58

Shows you how desperate they are to overlook Hillary's many shortcomings. We can do better. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2014 #105

Well said... Perseus Sep 2014 #98

I live in California, and have no intention of voting for Clinton.. frylock Sep 2014 #152

I can make this argument simple Kelvin Mace Sep 2014 #109

What does your dislike of David Corn have to do with this particular article on H. Clinton-Sachs? rhett o rick Sep 2014 #112

He thinks that the fact that Corn is friendly with Chris Matthews Ken Burch Sep 2014 #121

The harder people try to rebrand H. Clinton the worse it gets. She is a war hawk that was happy to rhett o rick Sep 2014 #125

Can you spell "ad hominem"? nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #126

Deflect fail, since Corn is not running for President (n/t) bread_and_roses Sep 2014 #143

Nice deflection. EEO Sep 2014 #164

"As a US senator, I doubt that anyone thought an American president would ever start a war." OnyxCollie Sep 2014 #167

I guess we are seeing exactly whose ass POTUS candidates need to kiss 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #14

'Scuse me a sec... Fearless Sep 2014 #15

Hillary has become performance art. MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #18

LOL -- perfect! markpkessinger Sep 2014 #23

Could he be more obvious? MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #53

Haha! Perfect! RufusTFirefly Sep 2014 #77

Pshaw... it's like observing that water is wet MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #89

Well Mark, if only she was standing up for truedelphi Sep 2014 #19

Are we getting a glimpse at one of the real Powers That Be behind the scenes. A Simple Game Sep 2014 #20

I don't think... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2014 #32

I think you may be right. n/t A Simple Game Sep 2014 #61

Yup. Like Bonasera and Vito RufusTFirefly Sep 2014 #95

Perfect. n/t A Simple Game Sep 2014 #122

Both Bonasera and Hillary honor "The Family" in their own special way. RufusTFirefly Sep 2014 #124

Kissenger and Cheney deserve nothing but scorn and prosecution. JEB Sep 2014 #22

Politicians never praise other politicians MyNameGoesHere Sep 2014 #24

This isn't about a politician praising another politician. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #29

so praising someone means "AGREEING with everything he ever did. And endorsing all of it. " wyldwolf Sep 2014 #33

I said praising Kissinger, not praising anyone at all. The point applies in some other cases, too. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #40

so your statement ONLY applies to Kissinger? mmmm... k! (snicker) wyldwolf Sep 2014 #42

It also applies to Nixon and Reagan, Ollie North, Lt. Calley Ken Burch Sep 2014 #50

ok, it only applies to them. Wait - anyone else you want to add to your expanding list? wyldwolf Sep 2014 #55

You don't have any valid point here. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #60

I have a completely valid point. Who can we praise without it being an endorsement? wyldwolf Sep 2014 #63

You can praise people who have done at least as much good as harm. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #66

Thanks! Now, who's the judge of this good vs. harm ratio? wyldwolf Sep 2014 #70

History: Ken Burch Sep 2014 #88

so your list shrinks to only include Kissinger again. wyldwolf Sep 2014 #91

You're making no meaningful point here. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #93

Sure I am wyldwolf Sep 2014 #94

In the first place, I SAID Kissinger...not the entire human race. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #96

Politicians, much like you did right here MyNameGoesHere Sep 2014 #123

You forgot the sarcasm thingy. blackspade Sep 2014 #35

Agreed. I'm no apologist for Reagan's actions. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #72

hmm, wasn't what obama praised Bodhi BloodWave Sep 2014 #129

I'd like to see Kissinger visit Argentina where he greenlighted the Dirty War. He's a war criminal-- Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #28

If I remember correctly, there are a lot of places Kissinger can no longer travel RufusTFirefly Sep 2014 #71

Are you fucking kidding me? blackspade Sep 2014 #30

K&R for EXPOSURE! ReRe Sep 2014 #31

I lived as an adult through the Nixon scandals ... DrBulldog Sep 2014 #37

Sen Sanders said on the Thom Hartmann show today that he is considering running. cui bono Sep 2014 #48

Bernie is also visiting Iwillnevergiveup Sep 2014 #157

Dear Hillary, JEB Sep 2014 #41

This is the real true Hillary. Good luck! I'll bring flowers to the Democratic party funeral. RIP L0oniX Sep 2014 #47

Seriously? People are surprised at this? PoutrageFatigue Sep 2014 #67

Check it out. Le Taz Hot Sep 2014 #82

fb�k elehhhhna Sep 2014 #84

Isn't this about the time the American people get setup? Phlem Sep 2014 #92

Actually...he does. Barack_America Sep 2014 #97

I am not ever voting for her, even if she is the nominee. alarimer Sep 2014 #99

Like war, I guess. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #106

War is PEACE. yaknow... Dragonfli Sep 2014 #107

Come now. Be fair! RufusTFirefly Sep 2014 #108

Is she trying to piss me off? CanonRay Sep 2014 #110

No surprise from someone who voted for the Iraq war. nt ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #114

Is she TRYING to Not fredamae Sep 2014 #127

I don't know why this would surpise anyone. 99Forever Sep 2014 #128

WooHoo! Hillary/Kissinger 2014 progressoid Sep 2014 #130

what BS!!!! heaven05 Sep 2014 #132

Christopher Hitchens on The Case Against Henry Kissinger (2001) antigop Sep 2014 #134

Now that Madam is a disqualifying statment. I'm pretty amazed she made it seems like a slip Exultant Democracy Sep 2014 #135

Hillary lost it WAY before that knock on the head. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2014 #154

She's naive if that's what she said and thinks. It's appalling. I may not vote for her regardless YOHABLO Sep 2014 #136

Kissinger Much worst than Putin Billy Budd Sep 2014 #138

If those values are war, war, and more war, then yes he does. Initech Sep 2014 #139

The dilemma (for me at least) ymetca Sep 2014 #140

Hillary Clinton: The Consummate Opportunist radicalliberal Sep 2014 #141

But not surprising, Hillary kissin up to Kissinger. Yuck! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2014 #155

How about double "Yuck!" or make that a triple? (See below.) radicalliberal Sep 2014 #160

Kiss... Quote Billy Budd Sep 2014 #142

I suppose that's appropriate... americannightmare Sep 2014 #146

good luck with your candidate, democrats.. frylock Sep 2014 #147

Surely we can do better than a warmonger, Wall Street corporatist like Hillary. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2014 #156

+10000 MissDeeds Sep 2014 #161

Truer words were never spoken. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2014 #179

That may be the most sickening thing I have hifiguy Sep 2014 #148

I think she ann--- Sep 2014 #151

That statement guarantees protests if she or a surrogate visit my town in MISSOURI! loyalsister Sep 2014 #153

Jeezus. Katashi_itto Sep 2014 #158

OMG MissDeeds Sep 2014 #159

WTF????? OldRedneck Sep 2014 #162

Haven't you ever heard of a "Kissinger Democrat" before? eShirl Sep 2014 #163

"I relied on his counsel when I served as secretary of state"...Jiminy Crickets!! To LoisB Sep 2014 #165

One of many saving graces of living in New York, pangaia Sep 2014 #166

really Hillary? rbrnmw Sep 2014 #170

ABH. Ilsa Sep 2014 #173

I'm getting an uneasy feeling that maybe the 1% WANTS Dem's to lose to the GOP in 2016. Maybe blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #174

She appears to be trolling again. cpwm17 Sep 2014 #176

If Kissinger stands for "American Values" then we're in deep shit because our Uncle Joe Sep 2014 #177

Blech ... just blech ... eom BlueMTexpat Sep 2014 #178