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JDPriestly

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29. Having lived in Germany and Austria and having discussed this
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 07:01 PM
Apr 2012

with members of that older generation, I disagree with your textbook opinions. The great inflation was never forgotten.

The NAZIS covered up the unemployment problems by furloughing people with what we would call generous unemployment payments (my very elderly neighbor retired at 35 during the 1930s and never worked again) and hired people to work in the defense industry.

In fact, the NAZIs, if you recall, had labor camps in which they put all the people they didn't like forcing them to work until they succumbed to hunger and exhaustion or survived. So there was no shortage of work.

The effects of the great inflation were felt by the people long after the economists would say it had ended.

This is similar to our situation in which economists will tell you that we are no longer in a deep recession, but ordinary people are still suffering from the serious effects of the recession. If, in recent times, you lost your job and your house was foreclosed, and you were made homeless, you would blame the recession/depression, not subsequent economic events that you probably would not understand.

Historians' and scholars' analyses of history are often inaccurate because they cannot see events through the eyes of the ordinary people who remember how they saw them.

The vast majority of the bonds were exchanged for a significant haircut. This is outdated info. dkf Apr 2012 #1
Outdated? By how much is it outdated? Did you read the full article? nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #4
The swap has gone through with CDS's triggered. dkf Apr 2012 #7
This kind of economic conflict lead to WWII. It could happen again. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #13
This kind of economic conflict did NOT lead to WWII. British and French guarantees of coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #14
Yes. This kind of economic depression and class differences lead to the rise of Hitler. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #27
I think you are confusing chronological proximity with coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #28
Having lived in Germany and Austria and having discussed this JDPriestly Apr 2012 #29
I would never disparage social history and its various media (such as oral coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #32
Have you read The Lost City by John Gunther? JDPriestly Apr 2012 #33
Have not read that specific work by Gunther. I have read some of his coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #34
The new Standard Strategy of the 1% bongbong Apr 2012 #21
As for the Greek hair stylist... justice1 Apr 2012 #11
With no funds in govt, since they weren't collecting taxes as they ought to have been. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #20
So it's only hedge funds that are holding Greek debt? Sounds like baloney to me. badtoworse Apr 2012 #2
Higher sales taxes? I hope they cheat on that. Zalatix Apr 2012 #3
Greece has already collapsed. This is what an orderly collapse looks like. banned from Kos Apr 2012 #6
Greece is not the problem for the EU that they make it out to be... Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #5
Read above...the debts are now mostly held by European taxpayers. dkf Apr 2012 #8
Yes and no. badtoworse Apr 2012 #9
The Problem Is The Solution DallasNE Apr 2012 #10
I'm the furthest thing from an economist the world has ever seen, however... Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #25
The expectation of being repaid is an absolutely essential element of any lending arrangement. badtoworse Apr 2012 #26
Not really, Greek tax cheats are mostly the uber wealthy because they have political control. fasttense Apr 2012 #17
They may have a larger impact because they have more income badtoworse Apr 2012 #18
I completely agree. Greece has been a paradise for the mega-rich. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #22
Wasn't that the point of the CIA intervention and the Junta in '67? leveymg Apr 2012 #23
Same old story: the rich versus a true people's democracy, but, of course, Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #24
Also, Greece can't be allowed to default kenny blankenship Apr 2012 #12
And if there's not enough thistle and roadkill, they can always fall coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #15
Any debt that cannot be repaid will not be repaid, and that is a tsuki Apr 2012 #16
Apparently, Greece was collecting a minutiae in taxes, and that's the way the country was run - Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #19
Greece's tax collections were not far out of line with the rest of the Eurozone. girl gone mad Apr 2012 #30
Could you post the chart? It was inadvertently left out. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #31
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