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35. free blacks who owned slaves were very rare

Sat Sep 6, 2014, 10:49 AM

Sep 2014

An oddity might occur; that doesn't make the system other than what it was.

These "arguments" are CSA apologist BS.

The white slaves one is even dumber - one was counted as black with any amount of black ancestry, no matter how little.

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Worst Book Review Ever Criticizes Slave History For Not Presenting 'Both Sides' [View all] applegrove Sep 2014 OP

Like the DORK critic that questioned the validity of ' Twelve Years a Slave ' orpupilofnature57 Sep 2014 #1

Thank you Jonathan Chait! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #2

WOW rbrnmw Sep 2014 #3

I'm surprised with the Economist. I expect a more European take applegrove Sep 2014 #4

I am sickened rbrnmw Sep 2014 #5

The Economist has long been a racist RW trash magazine malaise Sep 2014 #31

I have subscribed to The Economist for many years B_Mann Sep 2014 #65

We ditched it decades ago malaise Sep 2014 #66

Thank you. What do you think of The Financial Times? B_Mann Sep 2014 #68

Not a fan and have always been a very rare reader malaise Sep 2014 #70

We have time warped. Racism, sexism... the hate that gets spewed these days is disheartening. n/t cui bono Sep 2014 #12

I know they are here too rbrnmw Sep 2014 #16

I think they would like us to go back to the 1860s. logosoco Sep 2014 #23

that is scary but true rbrnmw Sep 2014 #24

Nah, you had to actually feed, clothe and house the slaves. jeff47 Sep 2014 #67

Wage slavery is cheaper Prophet 451 Sep 2014 #116

Yes, you had not only an initial investment, but ongoing (if minimal) maintenance costs Jackpine Radical Sep 2014 #126

Quite so Prophet 451 Sep 2014 #128

The funny thing is there were plenty of slaves we would consider white. Exultant Democracy Sep 2014 #6

I don't like to hear the thinking of slave owners. Read slave narratives in University applegrove Sep 2014 #7

Thomas Jefferson's 4 children by Sally Hemings were legally white, but slaves carolinayellowdog Sep 2014 #19

I wasn't aware of the law making octoroons legally white, thanks for the info Exultant Democracy Sep 2014 #72

It was succeeded by the One Drop Rule and the Pocahontas Clause carolinayellowdog Sep 2014 #73

Thanks for this information! JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #76

Perfect response sadly which was wasted on a (won't say it) because people like that are AuntPatsy Sep 2014 #8

I don't know quite what to say gollygee Sep 2014 #9

Never underestimate the ongoing Neo-Confederate warping of history. Paladin Sep 2014 #14

Yeah and I've heard that gollygee Sep 2014 #15

There are no limits nor depths to the harmful delusions of CSA apologists. And DU isn't immune. Paladin Sep 2014 #17

they seem to have that view down thread rbrnmw Sep 2014 #30

I'm not a bit surprised, unfortunately. (nt) Paladin Sep 2014 #32

I always hope gollygee Sep 2014 #79

that's been an ongoing heaven05 Sep 2014 #99

Bundy said that very statement heaven05 Sep 2014 #97

I wonder what their review of "Diary of a Young Girl" was? Glassunion Sep 2014 #10

I wish I could find a link to the book itself BainsBane Sep 2014 #11

All slave ownership was evil. Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #13

Confederate apologists were given free rein to write revisionist history Cirque du So-What Sep 2014 #18

After the war ended, the southern elite class, Dawson Leery Sep 2014 #64

That's a pretty singularly ill-advised review... Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #20

smh rbrnmw Sep 2014 #25

another sad attempt heaven05 Sep 2014 #100

History is indeed a messy, and often muddled, subject. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #119

Historical revisionism. Behind the Aegis Sep 2014 #21

Well yes, because we have a black President, therefore the legacy of slavery is long gone YoungDemCA Sep 2014 #71

Thank you for this JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #110

There were black people that owned slaves. alphafemale Sep 2014 #22

a poor white person was still free rbrnmw Sep 2014 #26

Free to starve or to be murdered with impunity alphafemale Sep 2014 #27

I am not going to entertain you rbrnmw Sep 2014 #28

That is not actually what I am saying. alphafemale Sep 2014 #29

no you said slaves were fed everyday rbrnmw Sep 2014 #33

Actually, I got this history lesson from black people. alphafemale Sep 2014 #37

"I got this history lesson from black people." Number23 Sep 2014 #87

oh lord, where am I again? LOL randys1 Sep 2014 #91

That is precisely what you're saying. Kindly massas and grateful, happy slaves=Hail Dixieland. Paladin Sep 2014 #34

Dontcha know White Privilege never existed rbrnmw Sep 2014 #36

Some people on this site are unbelievable Cad Bane Sep 2014 #42

I don't understand it either rbrnmw Sep 2014 #44

They always have the "friend" in their back pocket. Cad Bane Sep 2014 #58

it's the race card they say black folks play rbrnmw Sep 2014 #59

Let me take it to the next level JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #111

Exactly rbrnmw Sep 2014 #115

Might as well get used to it. Paladin Sep 2014 #54

this is true sadly rbrnmw Sep 2014 #56

Wow! Really? I've not seen this before. icymist Sep 2014 #74

The contents of this thread ought to provide you with the evidence you need. (nt) Paladin Sep 2014 #75

Yeah, ol' Massa gave 'em roast beef every day and tucked them Sheldon Cooper Sep 2014 #80

I have to think that, given the opportunity, black slaves would have changed places Maedhros Sep 2014 #107

Just knowing gollygee Sep 2014 #112

Yes TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #114

free blacks who owned slaves were very rare treestar Sep 2014 #35

But it DID happen. A free discussion has to include that. alphafemale Sep 2014 #38

A free discussion has to give time to a minuscule phenomenon KitSileya Sep 2014 #39

It was very common. And I learned this history from black friends. alphafemale Sep 2014 #40

yes the ole black friends defense rbrnmw Sep 2014 #41

Stick with your white very special After School Special view of history. alphafemale Sep 2014 #46

I've studied Black History rbrnmw Sep 2014 #49

Ah, but history is not a fixed thing. KittyWampus Sep 2014 #81

I've read Slave Narratives on top of many many books rbrnmw Sep 2014 #83

What I see is someone who wants to discuss how bad whites had it alongside a discussion on slavery. KitSileya Sep 2014 #45

Slaves were made to feel above poor "White Trash" alphafemale Sep 2014 #48

you are something else rbrnmw Sep 2014 #50

GTFOH with this bullshit! Cad Bane Sep 2014 #51

no the black friends taught them rbrnmw Sep 2014 #53

This is what DU has become. KitSileya Sep 2014 #55

this racist nonsense shouldn't be tolerated rbrnmw Sep 2014 #57

That is very true. KitSileya Sep 2014 #61

yep rbrnmw Sep 2014 #63

Yeah - I'm not alerting on this nonsense JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #78

I read that the other day heaven05 Sep 2014 #103

Poor white resenting slaves, and slave feeling better than poor whites (or any whites) KitSileya Sep 2014 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author Go Vols Sep 2014 #85

not negroes heaven05 Sep 2014 #104

MIRT!! Calling MIRT!! PLEASE!! Number23 Sep 2014 #88

Gone With the Wind isn't really a historical document. yardwork Sep 2014 #95

I wish I could recommend this comment. justiceischeap Sep 2014 #113

It sounds like gollygee Sep 2014 #96

No more and no less than a free discussion regarding the standard has to include the... LanternWaste Sep 2014 #98

And a blind squirrel finds a nut now and again tazkcmo Sep 2014 #101

Okay, let's include that. ieoeja Sep 2014 #106

It's an interesting post, but I'm afraid I'll have to correct you on one thing: AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #120

The Scots-Irish were a secondary power-group. But the aristocracy was largely Norman, not Anglo. ieoeja Sep 2014 #124

My Response. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #129

Regardless of the color of slave masters, slavery is wrong. The percentage of black owned slaves.... marble falls Sep 2014 #122

If you read my post before yours, you will note that a lot of those Black slave "masters" were not. ieoeja Sep 2014 #125

Jesus Christ on a crutch Number23 Sep 2014 #86

Times ten thousand JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #90

those whites you heaven05 Sep 2014 #102

Absolutely. Remember all the freed slaves begging to be taken back into slavery? Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #43

Rothschilds have an ownership stake in The Economist Octafish Sep 2014 #47

Yeah. OK It all as black and white as you imagine. alphafemale Sep 2014 #60

you are on the wrong side of this discussion rbrnmw Sep 2014 #62

This isn't Neo-Confederate Underground YoungDemCA Sep 2014 #69

Is it your opinion that the movies exaggerated the evils of slavery?Are you suggesting that slavery Douglas Carpenter Sep 2014 #77

this nation has lost it's collective mind. spanone Sep 2014 #82

yep rbrnmw Sep 2014 #84

You ain't lying. DU lost its mind a while ago and the main way you could tell was the stream of Number23 Sep 2014 #89

I am surprised any of you remain...it is so hostile here to minorities and Women randys1 Sep 2014 #93

I'm surprised any of us remain too. Number23 Sep 2014 #108

Yes, liberal democrats are dying out...USA is in for some real sad days ahead randys1 Sep 2014 #92

Yep heaven05 Sep 2014 #105

Duhhhhh shenmue Sep 2014 #94

, blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #109

That's what happens when everything becomes political Prophet 451 Sep 2014 #117

History is often a complicated subject.....But, truthfully, this reviewer missed the point. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #118

"History is often a complicated subject" So true. I mean heck slavery has cstanleytech Sep 2014 #121

Nothing generates more conservative anger than information that contradicts their fairy tales. Todays_Illusion Sep 2014 #123

"this is not history; it is advocacy" one could argue that all history is advocacy unblock Sep 2014 #127