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Orrex

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30. The issue begins and ends with the person who put the gun in her hand

Sat Sep 6, 2014, 10:53 AM

Sep 2014

The reasons and post hoc justifications are indicental.

I wouldn't suggest that he deserved to be shot, but if the event unfolded as described, then IMO he bears primary responsibility for his death.

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Father's a Cornell and UPenn Grad and first fired the Uzi [View all] Jeneral2885 Sep 2014 OP

The parents are still malaise Sep 2014 #1

It goes to show you that you can't teach stupid out of someone. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #5

Some folks really lack the brains required for parenthood malaise Sep 2014 #18

I don't know, but even if he didn't, he should have quit the job on the spot. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #22

Sues them for what exactly? steelsmith Sep 2014 #46

unbelievable that you can't. see the parents fault in this. rbrnmw Sep 2014 #59

Exactly! And why not just let her drive the Hummer, then. R B Garr Sep 2014 #31

I so much want to get that lumberjack exboyfil Sep 2014 #33

The video doesn't play for me. But I'm assuming the connection you're R B Garr Sep 2014 #54

I guess my point would be exboyfil Sep 2014 #55

Mother is Australian Jeneral2885 Sep 2014 #56

And consume alcohol as well. onecaliberal Sep 2014 #60

"...Alex and Alison MacLachlan refused to allow investigators to interview their children... factsarenotfair Sep 2014 #2

With minors? WinkyDink Sep 2014 #7

I did some checking around and it seems that it is something of a grey area. factsarenotfair Sep 2014 #13

they don't have the right to remain silent Jeneral2885 Sep 2014 #57

Well, that is total BS! You never have to talk to the police. Except to ID yourself only. nt Logical Sep 2014 #66

bullshit back to you Jeneral2885 Sep 2014 #67

Tell me when you have to! nt Logical Sep 2014 #69

Also, I personally don't think Vegas is a good place for a vacation with kids. n/t factsarenotfair Sep 2014 #3

This isn't the 60s and 70s... Oktober Sep 2014 #9

We'll have to agree to disagree. :) factsarenotfair Sep 2014 #10

My parents took my brother and I to Vegas on vacation when cheapdate Sep 2014 #17

I don't think gambling is evil, but it can be trouble. factsarenotfair Sep 2014 #23

Yes, it can be trouble...but cheapdate Sep 2014 #26

IOW, the father, having just shot the gun himself, should have realized how tblue37 Sep 2014 #4

Exactly! Cooley Hurd Sep 2014 #14

^^^ Exactly discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2014 #36

So, the guy is rich and intelligent. Neither means he has common sense. WinkyDink Sep 2014 #6

Being Rich Does Not Mean One Is Either Intelligent Or Has Common Sense cantbeserious Sep 2014 #28

Bill Maher would refer to this guy as a "smart stupid person". Initech Sep 2014 #49

It's the truth. Very smart people often do really leftyladyfrommo Sep 2014 #8

Nothing unusual about it steelsmith Sep 2014 #47

What's to enjoy? nt kelliekat44 Sep 2014 #50

what the does it matter what the parent's educational or professional background is? mulsh Sep 2014 #11

I wouldn't let a 9 year old mow the lawn MineralMan Sep 2014 #12

I never mowed my lawn with a Skil saw Generic Other Sep 2014 #27

If you take the blade guard off, you can get real close. MineralMan Sep 2014 #29

Just watching the video cwydro Sep 2014 #35

Reminds me of when my dad wouldn't let my nephews treestar Sep 2014 #41

On my 12th birthday, my Dad turned over the lawn mowing to me. MineralMan Sep 2014 #43

I got to use a push (non-motorized) lawn mower at age 8. I think it was bullwinkle428 Sep 2014 #68

Where did the dead guy go to school? Orrex Sep 2014 #15

That's only if the instructor had any say in who malaise Sep 2014 #19

That seems unlikely Orrex Sep 2014 #20

Do you think he was allowed to determine anything other than making money for the boss malaise Sep 2014 #21

The issue begins and ends with the person who put the gun in her hand Orrex Sep 2014 #30

Yes, and maybe he could have stood behind her...? R B Garr Sep 2014 #32

But as an employee the employer exboyfil Sep 2014 #34

It was my understanding that the dead guy had been trained and certified Orrex Sep 2014 #38

If he had refused to let her and they actually fired him over it treestar Sep 2014 #42

+1,000 but he may have been just another second amendment goon who saw nothing wrong malaise Sep 2014 #44

An educated fool. (nt) enough Sep 2014 #16

Fancy schools tk2kewl Sep 2014 #24

By my calculations, that makes him alcibiades_mystery Sep 2014 #25

He is a vulture capitalist exboyfil Sep 2014 #37

They were probably smart enough not to stand right next to their daughter when she was UZIing it... Tikki Sep 2014 #39

Callous and stupid gun owners are mentoring the next generation of gun nuts. Hoyt Sep 2014 #40

Nobody has mentioned this yet, Jenoch Sep 2014 #45

MSM (Misanthropic Sycophant Monsters) orpupilofnature57 Sep 2014 #53

I'm not a too prolific poster/reader of DU. Jenoch Sep 2014 #64

A person hellbent on results, no matter what the cost . orpupilofnature57 Sep 2014 #65

he's also a dumbass and a negligent parent. spanone Sep 2014 #48

why no jokes about cornell or upenn? is something particularly sacred about those schools? La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #51

ok joke away Jeneral2885 Sep 2014 #58

no, but i am not sure why you put that particular restriction. i was just curious. La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #61

Brilliance and Common Sense are both functions of the cerebellum, right ? orpupilofnature57 Sep 2014 #52

there are various forms of intelligence. apparently keeping your child away from harm La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #62

Speaking as a Cornell alumnus... MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #63