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magical thyme

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Sat Sep 6, 2014, 12:07 PM Sep 2014

Limits to Growth was right. New research shows we're nearing collapse [View all]

In a nutshell, researchers at University of Melbourne compared what's happening with what was predicted back in '72, in terms of economy, population growth, agriculture, etc. The results are chilling.


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/02/limits-to-growth-was-right-new-research-shows-were-nearing-collapse

Limits to Growth was commissioned by a think tank called the Club of Rome. Researchers working out of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, including husband-and-wife team Donella and Dennis Meadows, built a computer model to track the world’s economy and environment. Called World3, this computer model was cutting edge....

The task was very ambitious. The team tracked industrialisation, population, food, use of resources, and pollution. They modelled data up to 1970, then developed a range of scenarios out to 2100, depending on whether humanity took serious action on environmental and resource issues. If that didn’t happen, the model predicted “overshoot and collapse” – in the economy, environment and population – before 2070. This was called the “business-as-usual” scenario....

So were they right? We decided to check in with those scenarios after 40 years. Dr Graham Turner gathered data from the UN (its department of economic and social affairs, Unesco, the food and agriculture organisation, and the UN statistics yearbook). He also checked in with the US national oceanic and atmospheric administration, the BP statistical review, and elsewhere. That data was plotted alongside the Limits to Growth scenarios.

The results show that the world is tracking pretty closely to the Limits to Growth “business-as-usual” scenario. The data doesn’t match up with other scenarios.

Solid line: MIT, with new research in bold. Dotted line: Limits to Growth ‘business-as-usual’ scenario.






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For Very Good Discourse And Discussion On Life In Post-Industrial America Read cantbeserious Sep 2014 #1
I think you mean for very "good" discourse, no? magical thyme Sep 2014 #3
Extrapolating from that...we're fucked in 30 to 40 years at the outside. Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #2
Yep. hifiguy Sep 2014 #8
If we don't slow down the trends, within 40 years. Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #13
here is a link to a free .pdf of Limits to Growth magical thyme Sep 2014 #4
Yup, you can't have infinite growth on a finite planet. JaneyVee Sep 2014 #5
Remember the old tome: "We're saving our oil until we use up everyone else's", or variances? ChisolmTrailDem Sep 2014 #6
"We'll keep doing what we do until we can't... alterfurz Sep 2014 #7
I too believe we are nearing our top in airplaneman Sep 2014 #9
I doubt it. It would take a HELL of a lot of things going wrong to make this possible, truthfully. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #12
Hi AverageJoe airplaneman Sep 2014 #14
Not likely AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #15
Hi AnalystInParadise airplaneman Sep 2014 #17
Interesting. Quantess Sep 2014 #10
Sorry, but I'm not counting my chickens just yet. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #11
So true. We are on the brink of losing thousands of species of wildlife. raouldukelives Sep 2014 #16
This planet cannot sustain 7 billion people FLPanhandle Sep 2014 #18
Nonsense. A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #20
Paging Dr Malthus, Thomas Malthus. tritsofme Sep 2014 #19
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