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JimDandy

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54. That is an illogical stance

Sun Sep 7, 2014, 07:56 PM

Sep 2014

to ask someone to put skin, time or money into the war 'game' when they don't support war or want to enable the MIC in any way,

Within the MIC framework, soldiers and war aid workers are not OPPOSITE sides of the same coin-they are the same side. A MIC company will happily provide either the soldier or aid worker organization with the same mine detecting technology, security personnel, satellite communications, armored vehicle, etc. Money from one is as good as money from the other. Whatever will perpetuate their existence. In other words: War.

I don't care to support war or MIC companies with my skin, time or money. Those that do, though, are generally recognized as having the obligation to take the ultimate risk in support of war-their own life and skin-before anyone else's.

Thanks for your explanation as to why Syria, though.

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Obama is preparing the country to go back to war: [View all] grahamhgreen Sep 2014 OP

nope, will supply air support to the countries fighting ISIS, that's it still_one Sep 2014 #1

Just as with Libya. Dawson Leery Sep 2014 #3

But not Syria - we still want to take over Syria..... And Iran:) grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #17

nope, at least not under Obama still_one Sep 2014 #27

Exactly. That's what the GOP wants to do. Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #42

Thus not it. We will train them, we will have special ops morningfog Sep 2014 #22

It was just 2 weeks ago when we were told it would only be a couple air strikes for the yazidis, no grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #57

believe what you want. The U.S. is going to support those countries that are fighting ISIS. Guess still_one Sep 2014 #61

They're going to take down Assad in conjunction with ISIL. I believe grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #63

That may be mccain and the neocons plan, but I do not believe it will happen under Obama. still_one Sep 2014 #64

Still waiting for that Certificate of Live Birth! NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #2

... William769 Sep 2014 #8

My bad. Here you go: NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #10

That is why, on my first day in office, I would give the military a new mission: ending this war." grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #13

Things have changed since then. William769 Sep 2014 #18

Don't look back at why I was elected. I'm following the neo-con plan. I never said it, cuz I grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #40

There are bad people in the world William769 Sep 2014 #45

Should bad people be prosecuted for war crimes such as torture? grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #69

Depends on the circumstances. Thats what a court of law is for. William769 Sep 2014 #70

Prosecution is not conviction. I, too, feel they should have their day in court. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #71

Still waiting for this: BARACK OBAMA Published: July 14, 2008 - grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #15

It turned out the real world is messier sub.theory Sep 2014 #28

That's right. The world is more complicated and complex than it was in 2008. Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #44

The Middle East is for certain n/t sub.theory Sep 2014 #48

"... this is something that we know how to do." In fact, the only thing. Scuba Sep 2014 #4

Obviously we don't. ISIS is what al-qaeda morphed into. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #6

You must be thinking of war for some purpose other than profits. This worked as designed. Scuba Sep 2014 #23

Hmmm I though they morphed into the Taliban. Maybe they are changelings. Yea that's it. L0oniX Sep 2014 #35

Changelings is a perfect word. We've always been at war with the changelings. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #39

by not doing anything like the Iraq war. Schema Thing Sep 2014 #5

Funny cuz, people here told me we would not escalate... but we are. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #7

well of course we're going to escalate. Schema Thing Sep 2014 #14

Support Obama!!! Hemmingway Sep 2014 #9

You're off to a great start! Keep it up... ChisolmTrailDem Sep 2014 #11

Thank you. I support the Democratic President. Do you? Hemmingway Sep 2014 #12

We all do! Sending troops into Iraq is getting us out! Torture is patriotic:) grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #16

I support him every time he's right, and call him out every time he's wrong. Scuba Sep 2014 #24

He's not a coward. Nor should he be. Hemmingway Sep 2014 #29

Cowardice? How does that fit in this discussion? Scuba Sep 2014 #31

Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #32

Of course war means raising taxes, mostly on the rich, JimDandy Sep 2014 #36

Aw how nice of you to say that ...have you joined the BOG yet? L0oniX Sep 2014 #34

And has he enlisted? Hemmingway needs to join the Army to help out. n/t JimDandy Sep 2014 #37

By that same token sub.theory Sep 2014 #38

I am not the one advocating war... JimDandy Sep 2014 #50

Because it's ISIS territory sub.theory Sep 2014 #53

That is an illogical stance JimDandy Sep 2014 #54

I appreciate your position sub.theory Sep 2014 #55

So, who do YOU consider a chickenhawk? GeorgeGist Sep 2014 #67

And risk being hit by one of our drones? Heck no. nt Live and Learn Sep 2014 #65

What's your plan for ISIS? sub.theory Sep 2014 #19

Let Iran, Saudi Arabia, Israel and Syria, et al, form a coalition... It will be good for them! Who grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #20

I suspect that's exactly Obama's plan sub.theory Sep 2014 #21

An international coalition to maximiize MIC profits. Scuba Sep 2014 #25

Nice post. I suspect you're right. Obama's not much of one for 'cowboy diplomacy'. But pampango Sep 2014 #47

I wish Obama got as much benefit of the doubt as Putin. nt Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2014 #26

How we gonna pay for this? SummerSnow Sep 2014 #30

Exactly. NOT ONE WAR HAWK will step up and answer that question!!!! grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #41

Oh dear ...will the repukes ever raise taxes to fund the wars? Nope not when they... L0oniX Sep 2014 #49

This new chapter of the Obama legacy is the saddest... In part grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #58

I hope no one shows up for it. L0oniX Sep 2014 #33

It's Already Here Dirty Socialist Sep 2014 #43

Declaring and acting on it may be 2 different things... L0oniX Sep 2014 #46

Looks Like We Will See Wednesday Dirty Socialist Sep 2014 #52

Oh horse pucky AgingAmerican Sep 2014 #66

When is the invasion? JoePhilly Sep 2014 #51

3 weeks ago, over 1,000 thus far. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #60

I highly doubt he's going to put ground troops in Syria davidpdx Sep 2014 #62

Iraq war II cost us 3-6 TRILLION. How we gonna pay for this? JEB Sep 2014 #56

And he is usurping Cogress's war powers and deciding himself to go to war. Vattel Sep 2014 #59

Phuck war ... GeorgeGist Sep 2014 #68