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IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
23. Unfortunately, that blog does not match with my "real life" experience.
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 01:57 PM
Sep 2014

I disagree with you 100% -- the best defense is DON'T BE THERE.

My sister made choices to stay, based on her own baggage.

At a certain level, she was NOT HELPLESS -- she told the rest of us to go to hell on a regular basis when she was ping-ponging back and forth, with him being in the "hero mode" with us just not understanding.

No one MADE her stay with a guy who assaulted her. She had safe places to go, we all hated him and did everything we could to protect her. My father was involved in law enforcement, and he had the guy picked up regularly (outstanding warrants, drug convictions, driving without a license, etc.), so he spent regular time in jail even when my sister wasn't willing to press charges.

At some level he was meeting needs we just couldn't -- and I am grateful she finally got the hell out before more damage was done.

She was an Active Participant in that Relationship; she DID NOTHING that justified his laying one FINGER on her.

I have the clues. Getting out and staying safe is scary and dangerous and AWFUL.

No one else can do it -- the VICTIM has to say "enough" and mean it.

You don't have to like my opinion, but the beauty of this internet discussion board is that I am free to have it.

The love I have for my sister is pretty darn clear sighted; she was not perfect, and decades later, I still get angry thinking about the drama, the bruises, and the sight of her in the emergency room with an IV in her arm and bruises all over her body.

And I get ANGRIER at the fact she went back to him after the first time that happened.

Blame the victim? Yeah, at a certain level I do.

I would have cut my left arm off to save her from that kind of pain. Instead, I was asked to buy him a God-Damned Christmas Present a few weeks later, and told to watch myself lest I "ruin Christmas".

I am aware of my family's dysfunction. I have a clue. You might not like my conclusions - heck, you appear to consider me part of the problem - but pretending the whole thing was just because The Guy was in some "magic control" of her is simply fabrication -- he was too strung out on illegal drugs to be that powerful!

She had baggage. So did he. And the whole damn family got sucked into it....

Sigh.

She's been dead for ten years now. I still love her, and she knew it. She spent the last eighteen years of her life with a better man, and in my head I don't define her as "just a victim of domestic abuse" -- she was stronger than that.

But I have now watched three sisters deal with physically abusive partners (a fourth I wonder about), spent several years a long time ago volunteering on a suicide prevention line, and know too many people who had violence in their relationships.

The biggest thing I walk away from on this front is this:

It's complicated. It isn't just one thing (money) or another (self-esteem) or even society. It is damaged people (and aren't we *ALL* damaged in some way or another?) struggling to cope with the best tools they have.

In my family, two out of three of my abused sisters used illegal drugs to deal with past trauma issues. They picked partners with baggage who also used illegal drugs, who did not have healthy coping strategies when life challenges hit. This stuff spread like an ugly stain over the rest of the family relationships, and decades later we still deal with the aftermath.

I do not know of many families without some dysfunction in them. I like to think the steps I have taken to cope with mine will help my children have a healthier set of tools to deal with life challenges.

You may have different experiences, and have come to different cause/effect stuff in your head as a result. That is okay.

Welcome to DU - where not everyone agrees with you, and it doesn't make either one of us "terrible people."

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Dynamics of Domestic Abuse [View all] sufrommich Sep 2014 OP
Thanks for Posting! Sherman A1 Sep 2014 #1
I think so too. Thanks for commenting. nt sufrommich Sep 2014 #2
If this is an attempt to educate based on another thread... IdaBriggs Sep 2014 #3
It's very hard for victims who have been beaten and berated sufrommich Sep 2014 #4
She walked into the relationship with her own baggage. IdaBriggs Sep 2014 #12
........ daleanime Sep 2014 #26
I wasn't there so I don't know the facts surrounding your sisters' situation but I can say this from justiceischeap Sep 2014 #27
Sometimes the victim wants out but sees no way to do that. Gormy Cuss Sep 2014 #6
She got comfortable with it, until the end. IdaBriggs Sep 2014 #14
Got comfortable with it? Then she was a rare bird. Gormy Cuss Sep 2014 #21
That particular relationship lasted about five years. IdaBriggs Sep 2014 #29
Well, if there's serious dysfunction in a family the likelihood of considering abuse acceptable or Gormy Cuss Sep 2014 #34
Co-Dependent-Land is a weird, weird place lapislzi Sep 2014 #37
I am sorry that this happened to your family. lapislzi Sep 2014 #7
"Every domestic violence survivor I have ever met has performed minor acts of heroism every day." sufrommich Sep 2014 #8
Aw, shucks, thanks :-) lapislzi Sep 2014 #15
"when your secret wish is for the abuser to get hit by a bus" -- IdaBriggs Sep 2014 #24
Thank you for your kind words. IdaBriggs Sep 2014 #16
I honestly "got" your "getting it." lapislzi Sep 2014 #28
Victim blaming is what terrible people do. nt LeftyMom Sep 2014 #10
Indeed. Lots of words went into that victim blaming post. PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #13
Yup. I can see why you think I am a terrible person. IdaBriggs Sep 2014 #19
My stepson beats his girlfriend .. SummerSnow Sep 2014 #33
Well, what are you waiting for? derby378 Sep 2014 #42
the cops were called.he went to jail.they're back together.back at ya. SummerSnow Sep 2014 #44
Ugh - sorry to hear that. derby378 Sep 2014 #45
Get a clue. PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #17
best post in this thread! bettyellen Sep 2014 #22
Unfortunately, that blog does not match with my "real life" experience. IdaBriggs Sep 2014 #23
And I am free to tell you I think it's terrible. BTW, I have "real life experience" as well. PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #25
You are right - I didn't read it. I apologize for that. IdaBriggs Sep 2014 #30
I can feel the pain in your posts on this thread,Ida. sufrommich Sep 2014 #32
+ 1 zillion lapislzi Sep 2014 #5
Abusers are also extremely good at getting their victims to blame themselves and apologize!?!?!?? LeftyMom Sep 2014 #9
Very true. nt sufrommich Sep 2014 #11
"look what you made me do" nt justabob Sep 2014 #18
Thank you for this post me b zola Sep 2014 #20
K&R and K&R and K&R..nt riderinthestorm Sep 2014 #31
Been there, done that & got the t-shirt! Melurkyoulongtime Sep 2014 #35
Welcome to DU Gormy Cuss Sep 2014 #38
hey, lady fizzgig Sep 2014 #39
Thank you Melurkyoulongtime Sep 2014 #40
The relief period is commonly called "the honeymoon phase." Warpy Sep 2014 #36
Thank You for the OP rbrnmw Sep 2014 #41
K&R Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2014 #43
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